SmokeRise1 Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I like to use braid with about a 6 foot flouro leader on just about everything I throw. I want to get into hollow bodied frogs this year and I'm just wondering if the flouro will give me problems. I know it sinks and should not be used with top-water baits, but will using only a short piece really have an effect on the action of the frogs? (Scumfrogs, Koppers etc.) Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted June 10, 2011 Super User Posted June 10, 2011 It will potentially cause issues with the action of the frog and is unnecessary. While frogging I use straight 65lb braid, its usually done around heavy slop so the extra strength is far more important the adding a leader. Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted June 12, 2011 Super User Posted June 12, 2011 I'd say not to bother. In that type of cover you would normally throw a frog in, adding a leader does nothing but add a weak point between you and the fish. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted June 13, 2011 Super User Posted June 13, 2011 i couldn't think of a more useless time to use a leader.you're fishingin heavy weeds = line visibilty means nothing. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 13, 2011 Super User Posted June 13, 2011 As mentioned, you don't really gain much using a Flouro leader frog fishing in heavy cover. If, by chance, you are faced with a more open water situation, where the visibility of a heavy braided line is a concern you could down size the braid a bit or use a short Mono leader. The mono will float (unlike the flouro) but know that it will stretch which might effect the hook set. A-Jay Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted June 14, 2011 Super User Posted June 14, 2011 i couldn't think of a more useless time to use a leader.you're fishingin heavy weeds = line visibilty means nothing. I couldn't agree more... Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 i would go without the leader. then again i would use mono instead of braid as well, but thats my preference, youll be fine with straight braid. its of my belief fish arent so line weary on moving baits as well. i was at a pond earlier today fishing open water and had my light weight rod and reel with 8lb trilene xt and decided to try a rage toad for the first time(i normally wouldnt throw topwater on that setup). was 4 for 4 on hookups before the toad was destroyed, even used it upside down for a bass. excellent bait by the way, im sold on them, the fish in this pond wont even hit my spro frog. but either way, you wont be the first to throw a frog with fluoro if you did use it, sometimes going out of the element of whats perceived to be the proper way to do things works well... Quote
SmokeRise1 Posted June 16, 2011 Author Posted June 16, 2011 i couldn't think of a more useless time to use a leader.you're fishingin heavy weeds = line visibilty means nothing. It is not my intention to tie this leader on for the sole purpose of fishing the frogs in slop. I like to try a lot of different lures and tactics when I'm out on the lake and don't bring a different rod for each. I just tie on another lure and fish. My question was, will having a flouro leader effect the frog? Quote
Super User CWB Posted June 16, 2011 Super User Posted June 16, 2011 It will potentially cause issues with the action of the frog and is unnecessary. While frogging I use straight 65lb braid, its usually done around heavy slop so the extra strength is far more important the adding a leader. See above from first reply. X2. I use 50lb. though. Quote
DTack Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 To answer your question, if you want to "walk" the froggy it will effect it. The fluorocarbon will pull down on the nose of the frog and make it much more challenging. I for years had a hardtime walking a frog and found my answer when I switched from mono to straight braid. I fish my frogs in very open water and walk them whenever I can, I throw straight braid and personally don't think it has much negative in this situation. This is coming from someone who really just plain doesn't like braid. I hope you do try the frog 'cause they can be a really fun way to fish!! Quote
SmokeRise1 Posted June 17, 2011 Author Posted June 17, 2011 To answer your question, if you want to "walk" the froggy it will effect it. The fluorocarbon will pull down on the nose of the frog and make it much more challenging. I for years had a hardtime walking a frog and found my answer when I switched from mono to straight braid. I fish my frogs in very open water and walk them whenever I can, I throw straight braid and personally don't think it has much negative in this situation. This is coming from someone who really just plain doesn't like braid. I hope you do try the frog 'cause they can be a really fun way to fish!! Thank you. I guess I'll either have to bring a seperate rod loaded with straight braid or just cut the leader off to throw the frogs. Quote
DTack Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 It isn't so bad to cut the leader off and then re-tie as long as you're comfortable with your knots. I have been doing this recently and it's not bad at all. Usually when I go somewhere that I'll be fishing a frog I have it on all day so that's what makes it easier for me! Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted June 19, 2011 Super User Posted June 19, 2011 Thank you. I guess I'll either have to bring a seperate rod loaded with straight braid or just cut the leader off to throw the frogs. or just can the leader.i don't believe line visisbility causes less bites.i've fished next to guys with flouro in clear water and outfished them with straight braid.i've had it go the other way also.it's a matter of your bait being in front of biting fish.leaders mean more knots and more places to fail.i hate when they go through the guides.the only concession i make at all to line visibility is to color the last 6 feet of the braid black.this makes it harder to see. Quote
Chaz Hickcox Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 As mentioned, you don't really gain much using a Flouro leader frog fishing in heavy cover. If, by chance, you are faced with a more open water situation, where the visibility of a heavy braided line is a concern you could down size the braid a bit or use a short Mono leader. The mono will float (unlike the flouro) but know that it will stretch which might effect the hook set. A-Jay I fish frogs in open water around wood a lot and the braid has ZERO adverse affect on the amount of strikes I get. And I'm not fishing heavy grass most of the time. In addition to that, I have had 65lb braid snap on hooksets, grant it the braid was likely knicked, but keep that in mind. If they suck it in and sit still a hard hookset on a dink feels like your setting into wood, you're going to want the tinsel strength. Quote
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