Largemouth Bass Rod Help

[rwagn182]

hello. im just getting into fishing and im trying to upgrade my rod/reel. i watched a video of jp derose explaining what rod and reel to use for bass fishing with frogs in heavy cover. in my lake on my land it has alot of heavy cover with weeds and whatnot. he says he uses a medium heavy rod with a extra fast action. i want to use either 50lb or 65 lb braided line, but every where i look it says that using a 50+ line on a 12 lb line weight rod will be trouble. i cannot find a rod with a 65 lb line weight. if someone could either recommend a nice rod with a 65lb line weight, explain to me what rod would go good with the 65 or 50 lb test strength, or explain how line strength on a rod is determined. i do not need a reel because i have already decided on one. thank you.

[Grey Wolf]

Who ever told you that doesn't know what their talking about. You can use 50 , 65 lb. braid on the rods they make today.

[SDoolittle]

I may be off base here, but I would imagine that whoever is saying not to use 65# line on a rod recommended for 12# is talking about monofilament. It would be next to impossible to cast 65# mono on a standard bass fishing rod and reel. Braid has a much smaller diameter than mono, so it's not an issue. I've used both 50# and 65# braid with no problems.

[dmac14]

You can use pretty much whatever size braid you want on most rods these days. Specifically for heavier applications such as frogging there are dedicated rods that have the power to pull fish out of heavy weeds. I have a 7'6"mh Crucial Flipping Stick and it does wonders with frogs.

For your application I would suggest you look into the Abu Garcia Vendetta rods, sensitivity is not so much an issue with froggin' so you can look at cheaper rods.

 

I would suggest the 7'6" MH, the longer rod will help throw the bait a little further plus give you some more leverage to pull fish out of weeds.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

7' MH/F is a good all around bass rod. Ratings on rods are subjective. On a bass rod, lure wt ratings are much more useful than line wt. Braid in the weights you mentioned should be no problem.

[rwagn182]

7' MH/F is a good all around bass rod. Ratings on rods are subjective. On a bass rod, lure wt ratings are much more useful than line wt. Braid in the weights you mentioned should be no problem.

what is a good lure wt rating for an artificial frog? also how is a line wt for a rod rated. is it the weight of the fish or the pull/fight of the fish?

[deep]

what is a good lure wt rating for an artificial frog? also how is a line wt for a rod rated. is it the weight of the fish or the pull/fight of the fish?

As far as bass fishing is concerned, match the gear to the cover and the lure; not the fish you want to catch.

Eg: If you're dropshotting in sparse cover, you'd probably use 6 lb test. Flipping and pitching in moderate to heavy cover might call for 17 to 20 lb fluro. If you're throwing a 2 oz swimbait, you'd use 20 to 25 lb test line (unless you have braid) even if it's light soft cover.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

There are no industry standards for rod ratings. In general, I'd pick a rod with manufacturer lure weight ratings between which your baits weight would fall about in the middle. For example: Lure weight 1/2oz-1oz the sweet spot would be for a 3/4oz bait. It really boils down to trial and error though along with your preference. As far as frog baits specifically are concerned, they come in various styles and weights. Check ghe packaging or weight the bait yourself if ypu can't find anyone familiar with it.

[Senkoman12]

when using heavy line make sure your drag is set though. not using it could mean a broken rod