heyitskirby Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 make sure you have all of your fishing licence and your equiptment you need in order, the VDGIF is out in force over there now. This is going to be everywhere now with there already being a major accident this year in the state coupled with how many there were last year. Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 9, 2011 Super User Posted June 9, 2011 I greatly appreciate the info, not a lot of people are willing to give that much info on the lake they like to fish. I hope I can find a motor soon and get out there. Do you ever fish any tournaments at Anna? Well it's a pretty good size lake and I want you to have fun besides I didn't give up all that much info. Anna she can be pretty tricky but I can too and trust me I have had my butt handed to me a lot over there when I first started going and no one would help me so I know how it feels. Like I said that should get you started catching fish I will leave it up to you to establish your own patterns and such just keep in mind to start where I told you to and it should be a pretty good day for ya. No I do not fish tournaments over there as of yet but I wouldn't mind hooking up with someone although a buddy of mine and I have been wanting to give it a go we have yet to get together on one. Best of luck to you and again be safe!! Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 9, 2011 Super User Posted June 9, 2011 This is going to be everywhere now with there already being a major accident this year in the state coupled with how many there were last year. Either I have not been keeping up with the news or I missed hearing about all of these accidents I know of only a couple, one last year that cost an officer his life. However I am glad they are there and hopefully they will continue to be there, some of these people who drive these big boats are off their rockers!!! Quote
heyitskirby Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Either I have not been keeping up with the news or I missed hearing about all of these accidents I know of only a couple, one last year that cost an officer his life. However I am glad they are there and hopefully they will continue to be there, some of these people who drive these big boats are off their rockers!!! There was another high profile case last year involving a teacher. This year there was the accident with someone running head on into a bulkhead at the mouth of the Rappahanock. Most all have involved alcohol in some way. I did see someone pulled on the James last weekend right outside of Osbourne. Not sure what for. I may enjoy an ice cold adult beverage when wrapping up my day of fishing but thats it. Hopefully in the long run they are making things safe for those of us who are ultimately trying to do the right thing. Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 13, 2011 Super User Posted June 13, 2011 There was another high profile case last year involving a teacher. This year there was the accident with someone running head on into a bulkhead at the mouth of the Rappahanock. Most all have involved alcohol in some way. I did see someone pulled on the James last weekend right outside of Osbourne. Not sure what for. I may enjoy an ice cold adult beverage when wrapping up my day of fishing but thats it. Hopefully in the long run they are making things safe for those of us who are ultimately trying to do the right thing. WOW, Cuddo's to you for doing the right thing, Just like you I do enjoy my BUD but it goes nowhere near the boat. Thanks for the info !!! Good luck and be safe!!! Quote
dhami013 Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 The lake I'm fishing at the water level has gone down a good 4ft. Earlier in the season just after spawn the water was up and we were nailing big bass. Now we still catch a good sized fish almost every time we go out but not nearly as much as before. Where should I be looking to locate these big fish again? Nitro you said fishing 20 yards offshore for Anna would that be a good idea to try in the lake I'm fishing? Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 14, 2011 Super User Posted June 14, 2011 The lake I'm fishing at the water level has gone down a good 4ft. Earlier in the season just after spawn the water was up and we were nailing big bass. Now we still catch a good sized fish almost every time we go out but not nearly as much as before. Where should I be looking to locate these big fish again? Nitro you said fishing 20 yards offshore for Anna would that be a good idea to try in the lake I'm fishing? I am not familure with your lake but the trouble with most fishermen today is they will not move off of the banks which is a good thing at times but as the water temp rises the bigger bass tend to also move deeper not at a fast rate mind you because it takes a long time for the fish to adjust to different depths. So keep an open mind and start using your tools and think about what a lot of these people have to offer you in here. Start fishing deeper and slower and you should be able to have some fun. Also if I may suggest you may want to read the articals that are part of this forum, they contain a load of info that can really help you along the way. Good luck and be safe !!! Quote
endless Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 I know that is something I've been trying to pick up on, fishing deep. I've been reading some articles on here but still can't understand the concept. I think the only time I caught anything deep I was trolling through with my rattle trap. Quote
heyitskirby Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 I'm with you endless. I pretty much give up during late July into August and stick to doing lazy fishing for catfish. I can't seem to figure out deep structure. Quote
endless Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 I'm with you endless. I pretty much give up during late July into August and stick to doing lazy fishing for catfish. I can't seem to figure out deep structure. I still go and try my luck best I can I even try some deep stumps with no luck there. I can't determind what's a channel to just the natural depth of a lake. And I'm trying all I can to understand my depth finder. Neither one sure isn't easy, lol. Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 14, 2011 Super User Posted June 14, 2011 I know that is something I've been trying to pick up on, fishing deep. I've been reading some articles on here but still can't understand the concept. I think the only time I caught anything deep I was trolling through with my rattle trap. Fishing deep or deeper than you are used to requires patience and focus on your part. You may have already had big fish take your lure and didn't even know it they are sooooo soft when big ones pick up your lure and getting used to that feeling takes time. For me the best thing I can tell you is keep reading and keep trying because once you get a couple you won't regret it. Good luck and be safe!!! Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted June 14, 2011 Super User Posted June 14, 2011 Learn what the Thermocline is and how to determine where it is. Just that will reduce the amount of water and the depths you should be looking for bass. An example of how some approach fishing was yesterday at Briery Creek. I had loaded the boat on the trailer around 7PM and a guy came in with his wife to start fishing. He asked me how was the fishing, I said "kind of slow" but the thermocline is forming at about the 15' level and all the bass I caught were in the 7'-12' range. I had caught 51 bass and showed him what I had used. His reply, "I'm gonna be fishing deeper than that". He had a small jon boat with electric motor and no electronics. As I was leaving, I saw him fishing next the the first trees out from the ramp. Quote
Bigs Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 51 bass and the fishin is slow I need to focus more attention on finding fish and understanding why they are where they are at any given time. Thats one of the things that seperates the guys who really fish and those who aimlessly cast and beat the bank. Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 14, 2011 Super User Posted June 14, 2011 Learn what the Thermocline is and how to determine where it is. Just that will reduce the amount of water and the depths you should be looking for bass. An example of how some approach fishing was yesterday at Briery Creek. I had loaded the boat on the trailer around 7PM and a guy came in with his wife to start fishing. He asked me how was the fishing, I said "kind of slow" but the thermocline is forming at about the 15' level and all the bass I caught were in the 7'-12' range. I had caught 51 bass and showed him what I had used. His reply, "I'm gonna be fishing deeper than that". He had a small jon boat with electric motor and no electronics. As I was leaving, I saw him fishing next the the first trees out from the ramp. Remember what I said about keeping an open mind and paying close attention to what these guys have to offer ? Right here is a perfect example for you !! Wayne P. YOU ARE THE MAN !!!( Did you ever get around to cleaning that boat of yours...lol ) 1 Quote
endless Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Remember what I said about keeping an open mind and paying close attention to what these guys have to offer ? Right here is a perfect example for you !! Wayne P. YOU ARE THE MAN !!!( Did you ever get around to cleaning that boat of yours...lol ) Believe me I listen to him all the time. Him and Sam both help influence me and helped me allot. Far as thermoclines go I'm still trying to get my Humminbird to pick it up. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted June 14, 2011 Super User Posted June 14, 2011 Believe me I listen to him all the time. Him and Sam both help influence me and helped me allot. Far as thermoclines go I'm still trying to get my Humminbird to pick it up. endless, the Humminbirds will show the thermocline with just the default sensitivity settings. Actually in most cases it shows too well and the 2D sensitivity has to be lowered to get the best image of its location in the clutter of plankton and temperature change. Quote
endless Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 endless, the Humminbirds will show the thermocline with just the default sensitivity settings. Actually in most cases it shows too well and the 2D sensitivity has to be lowered to get the best image of its location in the clutter of plankton and temperature change. Thanks Wayne. I'm still trying to get an ideal of this finder of mine. When the last time I've been to Huntingrun I was told it might been to early for it. I didn't see one for the Ni res when I went two weeks ago. I want to hit lake Orange I think there would be a great place to learn fishing deep. You been to the Orange lately?? How is the fishing there? Another question does a river like the Rappahannock have a Thermocline? Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 15, 2011 Super User Posted June 15, 2011 Believe me I listen to him all the time. Him and Sam both help influence me and helped me allot. Yea you are soooooo right I too have learned much from guys like these, They are such a blessing to have here. Thanks guy's!!!!! Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted June 15, 2011 Super User Posted June 15, 2011 Thanks Wayne. I'm still trying to get an ideal of this finder of mine. When the last time I've been to Huntingrun I was told it might been to early for it. I didn't see one for the Ni res when I went two weeks ago. I want to hit lake Orange I think there would be a great place to learn fishing deep. You been to the Orange lately?? How is the fishing there? Another question does a river like the Rappahannock have a Thermocline? When the water temp gets to around 85 degrees and stays that way, the thermocline will start. Typically mid to late June is when you seen it. Lake Orange is not what I call "deep" but it does get a thermocline in the summer (very easy to fish there then). No, I haven't been to Orange since June 2009-there are too many good places to fish. No free flowing rivers around here that I know of get it. Lakes that are on small rivers/creeks get it due to the minimal water flow. I saved this with a Martix 97 a couple of years ago at Hunting Run in the summer (note sensitivity setting to reduce the clutter) Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted June 15, 2011 Super User Posted June 15, 2011 When the water temp gets to around 85 degrees and stays that way, the thermocline will start. Typically mid to late June is when you seen it. Lake Orange is not what I call "deep" but it does get a thermocline in the summer (very easy to fish there then). No, I haven't been to Orange since June 2009-there are too many good places to fish. No free flowing rivers around here that I know of get it. Lakes that are on small rivers/creeks get it due to the minimal water flow. I saved this with a Martix 97 a couple of years ago at Hunting Run in the summer (note sensitivity setting to reduce the clutter) This is with the 798ci SI last summer at Hunting Run with the default setting (10). Notice where the fish are----- Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 15, 2011 Super User Posted June 15, 2011 You know speaking of thermoclines, I have never been able to pick that up on mine, well at least not like the instruction manual says to adjust for it. I have a Lowrance X 96 could it be my transducer ? Quote
endless Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 When the water temp gets to around 85 degrees and stays that way, the thermocline will start. Typically mid to late June is when you seen it. Lake Orange is not what I call "deep" but it does get a thermocline in the summer (very easy to fish there then). No, I haven't been to Orange since June 2009-there are too many good places to fish. No free flowing rivers around here that I know of get it. Lakes that are on small rivers/creeks get it due to the minimal water flow. I saved this with a Martix 97 a couple of years ago at Hunting Run in the summer (note sensitivity setting to reduce the clutter) Thanks again Wayne. I'm going to keep a look out for it. The red is thermocline right? Why does run up hill like? What's the blue/yellow spot above it? Quote
endless Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 This is with the 798ci SI last summer at Hunting Run with the default setting (10). Notice where the fish are----- Is that a fish above the thermocline suspended off the drop? The rest of the arches fishes to? I can still can't get arches either. Could it be my transducer is installed at the back of boat like instructed? Also what does it mean when you get two bottom readings? Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted June 15, 2011 Super User Posted June 15, 2011 First of all the thermocline a level of water that has a temp change of about 1 degree per foot of depth--that is level across the body of water unless wind has made it tilt some. The bottom is not exactly a drop, it is the bottom shape of that part of the lake. All the arches are fish (big ones and little ones) I caught two of the bass that are behind the water temperature readout. "It's so easy a cave man can do it" The multi-bottoms are echos due to the sensitivity setting. That is when you can see good detail of small stuff in the water. Don't kill that with any noise or clairty settings. The sensitivity can be set lower and the thermocline won't even show as well as small fish. With the new units having the Switchfire 2D, the Clear setting will adjust the sensitivity some for best performance. Any brand of sonar will show this kind of stuff if the settings are adjusted. I used to have a Lowrance X70-A that was great for showing arches and thermoclines with just the automatic setting for sensitivity. You have to be where there is a thermocline to see one--it doesn't happen all year and on every body of water. Quote
dhami013 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 I've been curious to try out Huntingrun is it any good? I've heard it's good but I've also heard it's slow. Quote
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