Super User Grey Wolf Posted May 30, 2011 Super User Posted May 30, 2011 Oh well at least Michigan fans can breath a sigh of relief. When you throw your ethics out the door to win you get what you deserve. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted May 30, 2011 Super User Posted May 30, 2011 Well if he needs to scrounge up a little cash for moving expenses, he could always sell that hideous sweater vest to the local tattoo artist! Quote
GLADES Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 The Ohio program will move on without him and his questionable ethics. Quote
Super User Sam Posted May 30, 2011 Super User Posted May 30, 2011 What is so upsetting is that the infraction was minor and if Coach Tressel had just told TOSU compliance people what happened he would not be in all this trouble. Then, to be accused of covering up the players' acts so he could use the players to beat a second tier SEC team in the Sugar Bowl is embarassing enough. I listen to 24-7 sports on Sirus radio and TOSU insiders said that TOSU would have to throw Coach Tressel under the bus to avoid harsh NCAA sanctions and to keep the Sugar Bowl victory. Supposedly TOSU has the next coach ready to roll. He is already on staff and will take over the team until the Board of Trustees decides to go with this guy or hire a name brand coach. All we can do is wait for the fall out. You TOSU people can remind TOSU that Satan from Alabama will jump for more money unless Jerry Jones picks him up after this season. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted May 30, 2011 Super User Posted May 30, 2011 Tressell was making about 3.5 million per year with a contract thru 2014. That's leaving a lot of money on the table! Quote
Vance Jones Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 tressel was doing the same things at youngstown state and he left that school before the investigation was complete. his star qb there was introduced to the ceo of a fast rising pharmacy company, and that ceo gave that qb cash and access to his vehicles. all along tressel denied any knowledge. then gets highered by osu where it only magnified the players and the ability to have things go amiss. there's a lot more to this than the mere osu momentos for free tatoos. there's a lot of severely reduced car buying prices in here as well. a 300M for 13,000$ anyone that's not a player try to walk in and offer that particular dealer 13,000 for a chrysler 300M and you will get laughed at. yet the osu football players got it at that. can't stand how so many are saying tressel is a man of integrity, no he isn't. he actively and deliberately covered up and lied about the known ongoing activities of his players. that is not the meaning of integrity those are the actions of a cheater. Quote
SDoolittle Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 The Ohio program will move on without him and his questionable ethics. You're right. This won't hurt the Ohio program at all. It might have some impact on the Ohio State program though! You TOSU people can remind TOSU that Satan from Alabama will jump for more money unless Jerry Jones picks him up after this season. Bobby Petrino is always looking for a job too! Quote
Vance Jones Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 sports illustrated article on tressel and OSU Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted May 31, 2011 Author Super User Posted May 31, 2011 Gee and Smith should resign too. Clean the whole d**n program up. Quote
Vance Jones Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 i heard rich rod was also in the market for a new head coaching job Quote
SDoolittle Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 i heard rich rod was also in the market for a new head coaching job Y'all might get him back if Holgerson doesn't straighten his act up. http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/x1656189147/Chuck-Landon-Holgersen-gambling-on-future-at-WVU Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted May 31, 2011 Author Super User Posted May 31, 2011 i heard rich rod was also in the market for a new head coaching job He can go back to Glenville St. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted May 31, 2011 Super User Posted May 31, 2011 What is so upsetting is that the infraction was minor and if Coach Tressel had just told TOSU compliance people what happened he would not be in all this trouble. Then, to be accused of covering up the players' acts so he could use the players to beat a second tier SEC team in the Sugar Bowl is embarassing enough. I listen to 24-7 sports on Sirus radio and TOSU insiders said that TOSU would have to throw Coach Tressel under the bus to avoid harsh NCAA sanctions and to keep the Sugar Bowl victory. Supposedly TOSU has the next coach ready to roll. He is already on staff and will take over the team until the Board of Trustees decides to go with this guy or hire a name brand coach. All we can do is wait for the fall out. You TOSU people can remind TOSU that Satan from Alabama will jump for more money unless Jerry Jones picks him up after this season. 2nd tier SEC team that gives the tigers fits every year.....6-7 in the last 13 yrs Quote
Vance Jones Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 ugg, i don't trust much that comes out of the herald in regards to wvu. landon has a major grief against wvu since marshall is his school of coverage. dana was getting loud at a table and was asked to leave, and that's par for the course there at that "casino" Quote
SDoolittle Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 ugg, i don't trust much that comes out of the herald in regards to wvu. landon has a major grief against wvu since marshall is his school of coverage. dana was getting loud at a table and was asked to leave, and that's par for the course there at that "casino" You may be right about Landon. http://www.dailymail.com/Sports/201106011015 Quote
KnoxVegas Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Hasn't Holgerson already had about 9 alcohol related incidents since coming to WVU around the first of the year? He isn't even allowed in the bar at the hotel he was/is living in in Morgantown. Quote
GLADES Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 You're right. This won't hurt the Ohio program at all. It might have some impact on the Ohio State program though! We were talking about Ohio State right? Ohio State is in Ohio? .... It still sticks in my craw how the Buck Eyes beat the Hurricanes for the national championship. That late flag by the OHIO STATE alumn referee was bogus. Tressel has been running a crooked program for years. It is about time he was shown the door. Quote
GLADES Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Hasn't Holgerson already had about 9 alcohol related incidents since coming to WVU around the first of the year? He isn't even allowed in the bar at the hotel he was/is living in in Morgantown. He is more of a "players coach" Quote
Vance Jones Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Hasn't Holgerson already had about 9 alcohol related incidents since coming to WVU around the first of the year? He isn't even allowed in the bar at the hotel he was/is living in in Morgantown. no he hasn't. nor has he been banned from the bar of the hotel he's staying at. he has been involved in one incident while at wvu and that was the casino at cross lanes west virginia. he was getting a bit too loud at a table and was asked to leave. he left without any further incidents and no police escort. i absolutely love the smear campaign that has been "wagered" to date in regards to dana holgorsen. Quote
SDoolittle Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Hasn't Holgerson already had about 9 alcohol related incidents since coming to WVU around the first of the year? He isn't even allowed in the bar at the hotel he was/is living in in Morgantown. Once again. http://www.dailymail.com/Sports/201106011015 Quote
Vance Jones Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 ohio and ohio state are two different schools seperated by about 75 miles. one is in columbus ohio along the banks of the olentangy river and the other is in athens ohio along the hocking river. one is famous for halloween block parties and a very liberal populace the other for having high street. one rushed the field when they beat the pitt panthers and the other, well they wouldn't rush the field for beating pitt. but the one did have a player take AIDS AWARENESS, GOLF, AND EMAIL in order to stay eligible for football. dare to take a guess which school that was 1 Quote
nick76 Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 This whole thing stinks of crap. They are trying to use Jim as the scapegoat to avoid sanctions by the ncaa or minimize those they do get. Instead of cleaning up the program they asked him to fall on the sword and take the heat. Being the "good" buckeye he is, he decided it was best. He knows darn well that his tenure at osu is riddled with impropieties and ncaa violations. If osu was serious they would have cleaned house including the AD and maybe even the President. Then get rid of the trouble players, bring in a guy that can win and give him a huge payday since you know they are going to be in trouble for this. Give him time and oversee the heck out of it. Make it right. Instead they just go down the line to the next coach on the staff to promote. Do they honestly think that Tressel was the only one covering stuff up and breaking the rules. It is about time the ncaa get a set and punish one of these schools with major violations. USC walked for the most part because they said that nobody cooperated. Time to get tough and enforce the rules. Ohio State is not stupid, they know how the USC defense works. Seems like these schools are good at skirting the rules and skirting the ncaa on enforcement. Quote
shootermcbob Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 This whole thing stinks of crap. They are trying to use Jim as the scapegoat to avoid sanctions by the ncaa or minimize those they do get. Instead of cleaning up the program they asked him to fall on the sword and take the heat. Being the "good" buckeye he is, he decided it was best. He knows darn well that his tenure at osu is riddled with impropieties and ncaa violations. If osu was serious they would have cleaned house including the AD and maybe even the President. Then get rid of the trouble players, bring in a guy that can win and give him a huge payday since you know they are going to be in trouble for this. Give him time and oversee the heck out of it. Make it right. Instead they just go down the line to the next coach on the staff to promote. Do they honestly think that Tressel was the only one covering stuff up and breaking the rules. It is about time the ncaa get a set and punish one of these schools with major violations. USC walked for the most part because they said that nobody cooperated. Time to get tough and enforce the rules. Ohio State is not stupid, they know how the USC defense works. Seems like these schools are good at skirting the rules and skirting the ncaa on enforcement. I wonder if you had the same outlook when Michigan ran into problems with the extra practice time... lack of documentation regarding such practice times, etc, etc??? Was Everyone there "cheating" as well??? Quote
nick76 Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 I know this will make me sound like a homer, but there is a large difference in the accusations and also how the universities handled it. The only major charge against Michigan was the lack of institutional control that was handed down due to the probation against U of M from the fab five days. They were cleared on all charges except the charge of practicing 20 minutes too long. Which after it was identified was later changed by definition in the ncaa guidelines. So to compare practicing too long and the possibilities that players were being given improper benefits and that there was an active cover up is unfair. Unlike osu, Michigan also had a media outlet who was fabricating most of the alledged items and the university hired an outside firm to investigate the allegations. They were very transparent during the whole process. Osu is handling their own investigation and through the FOIA more and more is coming out. Not that their was a communication error about forms being filled out, but that the warning signs of undocumented cars, vacations, housing problems, etc. This was by no way a one man show covering this up. If this happened at U of M I would hope they would have cleared house and start over. I said all along that if they found Rich guilty of a coverup or guilty of lack of institutional control then they had to fire him. Two very different scenarios, but a fair question to ask. 1 Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted June 5, 2011 Author Super User Posted June 5, 2011 This whole thing stinks of crap. They are trying to use Jim as the scapegoat to avoid sanctions by the ncaa or minimize those they do get. Instead of cleaning up the program they asked him to fall on the sword and take the heat. Being the "good" buckeye he is, he decided it was best. He knows darn well that his tenure at osu is riddled with impropieties and ncaa violations. If osu was serious they would have cleaned house including the AD and maybe even the President. Then get rid of the trouble players, bring in a guy that can win and give him a huge payday since you know they are going to be in trouble for this. Give him time and oversee the heck out of it. Make it right. Instead they just go down the line to the next coach on the staff to promote. Do they honestly think that Tressel was the only one covering stuff up and breaking the rules. It is about time the ncaa get a set and punish one of these schools with major violations. USC walked for the most part because they said that nobody cooperated. Time to get tough and enforce the rules. Ohio State is not stupid, they know how the USC defense works. Seems like these schools are good at skirting the rules and skirting the ncaa on enforcement. Excellant post , I agree 100 % !!!!!!!!! Quote
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