soccplayer07 Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 I tried the rage tail toad yesterday for the first time. I could not get the bait to stay on the surface. Is it supposed to sink? I rigged it as suggested with a 5/0 ewg (owner). Quote
Super User Tin Posted June 8, 2009 Super User Posted June 8, 2009 Can't get them to skip either. Quote
aarogb Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 It's not meant to float. Just hold your rod tip up high and reel fast enough to keep it on top of the water. Quote
soccplayer07 Posted June 8, 2009 Author Posted June 8, 2009 sorry to hear that. I was really disappointed. A buddy of mine was fishing ribbits which did not float either but sank at a much slower rate. Hopefully there is a way to fix this. Quote
NovaBasser Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 The rage toad wasn't designed to be a floating bait like the Spro Frogs. The must be fished on the retrieve like a buzzbait, remember its not hollow. You can fish it across the top and stop it in holes of matted veg and let it sink to the bottom and most times it will get slammed, which is something you cannot do with floating frogs. You can also fish it on a keel weighted hook and swim it subsurface or at what ever desired depth like a swim bait, very deadly technique! http://www.ragetail.com/ragetailtoad.html Its a great bait, just not be what you where looking for in a topwater frog. Hope this helps! Quote
bigtimfish Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 That's what that 7:1 gear ratio on that reel is for. buzz them accross the top of the water. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted June 8, 2009 Super User Posted June 8, 2009 It must be rigged with the back straight, and a convex, downward bow at the belly section. I've found it you accentuate the downward bow, so that the back has a hollow in it, it will skim the surface at a slower retrieve. It can be skipped across the surface, or run just below it, leaving a wake on the surface. The hook must be dead nuts center through the nose and the body (entrance and exit) for it to run properly. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted June 8, 2009 Super User Posted June 8, 2009 i guess you haven't really fished a frog to it's potential yet cause letting it sink in holes and open water between top water grass (mats) then twitch swimming it will get the toad hammered !!! so be a little diverse in your frog fishing , don't just run it on top , fish different depths and some times fish open water too . i've been fishing the toad at night in 5-7' deep , open water and just winding it slow with occasional twitches and getting hammered . well , hope this helps .... Quote
zdunham Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 Rod tip high up, that helps keep it up, real at a decent speed. If it is hooked as the picture shows (the one someone posted up there), then it should flip over on its own. I've only used this thing twice and it is my favorite bait. Quote
Madd Lunacy Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 I had a 6 pounder slam the first couple times I used it and it quiclkly made me a believer out of me. Quote
Lil Baby Cousin Ray-Ray Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 Great info guys. My frog swims straight but I am having problems with it landing upside down and not flipping over, also the lakes i fish do not have a lot of vegetation, so should i use the frog on shallow flats in place of a buzzbait or stick with the buzbait. Quote
bigtimfish Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 Great info guys. My frog swims straight but I am having problems with it landing upside down and not flipping over, also the lakes i fish do not have a lot of vegetation, so should i use the frog on shallow flats in place of a buzzbait or stick with the buzbait. I am no frog guy, I honestly have never had a good day with them. but when i do use them i use these hooks that have a weight on the front. I think they are made for frogs. It if they do land upside down let it sink for about a foot and give it a quick jerk or two that front weighted hook will flip it over and have it running right. Quote
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