Super User Redlinerobert Posted May 25, 2011 Super User Posted May 25, 2011 We are passed the drain and headed down the sewer as a society with this sort of stuff. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/erin-r-brown/2011/05/25/california-teache-tells-kindergarteners-more-two-genders#ixzz1NOWRIzsL Quote
Stringjam Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 We are passed the drain and headed down the sewer as a society with this sort of stuff. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/erin-r-brown/2011/05/25/california-teache-tells-kindergarteners-more-two-genders#ixzz1NOWRIzsL Sounds almost as utterly ridiculous as this: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110524/ts_yblog_thelookout/parents-keep-childs-gender-under-wraps Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted May 25, 2011 Super User Posted May 25, 2011 I am not a big fan of the single sex Hawaiin gecko, they confuse me. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 i dont see a problem with it for the most part. people are going to be who they are regardless of transgender clownfish. isnt that why this country was created? freedom of the banned topics??? Quote
Super User slonezp Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 3rd paragraph This is only the latest example of what seems to be a New-Age, gender-bending agenda pushed into the mainstream media by those who refuse to accept the traditional sex differences between men and women. A couple in Toronto, Canada has sparked outrage because they refuse to assign a specific gender to their infant “Storm,” preferring instead to believe “a child’s sex should not determine his or her place in the world.” If "Storm" is a hermaphrodite...maybe this is ok. Maybe. These people should not be reproducing. I thought I lived in a nation that has evolved to where men and women are equal. Now, I don't mean to contradict the statement I just made, but men and women are not equal. Each has a specific role going back to the begining. The men being the hunters and gatherers, and the women bearing and raising children. Thru the evolution of the U.S. men and women have learned to share their roles but I believe that is fueled primarily by the cost of living and women who have an extra Y chromosome. Quote
brushhoggin Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 freakin morons. thumbs up for "Turning your child into your own "tribute to freedom and choice" is unbelievably self-serving. Storm deserves to be loved for everything he or she is, not to be a pawn in the messed-up agenda of his/her parents." Quote
Shad_Master Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 I hear Irene warming up - how's that for an old reference? Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 Only thing that bothers me is the term single-sex Hawaiian geckos and transgender clownfish. 1 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 Once upon a time, schools taught the three R's, readin' and 'ritin' and 'rithmetic. The social stuff, and the birds and the bees were the parent's responsibility to teach their children as they saw fit. Same for morals and ethics. Now kids can't read, write, do simple math in their heads, but they sure are indoctrinated in philosophy, beginning at very early ages. Philosophy is fine at the college level, after they have a useful, functional education to be productive in society. Schools are putting the cart before the horse. It's a sad commentary that colleges have to provide remedial classes for the basic fundamentals that should have been taught in K through twelve. 3 Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 I hear Irene warming up - how's that for an old reference? Just makes a guy wonder if Irene is a she, a he, or somewhere in between! Quote
tyrius. Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 Just makes a guy wonder if Irene is a she, a he, or somewhere in between! We prefer not to say. We want Irene to be able to come out whenever he/she desires. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 Irene's been expanding her horizons with dance classes..... As for this thread, well it's California. And you guys thought we Yankees were nutz. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 Irene's been expanding her horizons with dance classes..... As for this thread, well it's California. And you guys thought we Yankees were nutz. You hit it right on the head. CALIFORNIA Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted May 26, 2011 Author Super User Posted May 26, 2011 yup, California. I'd love to see what kind of feedback this teacher would get in oh, Missouri? Quote
Captin Obvious Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 To have free choice you need to have an ability to choose. And I have yet to see someone have a say in what there gender is. Capt.O 1 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 I have to be objective, the article was written by a conservative writer for a conservative web site. I don't really know what information was covered in the class and how it was presented. I wonder if the writer was actually there, didn't notice any mention that she was, had she been there she may gotten a education. The article screams of biasness, I don't form an opinion until I hear both sides of a story. As far as this topic being presented in a public school maybe not the best idea, but how parents bring up their children at home is their business. At home my wife and I welcomed the opportunity to have these kinds discussions with our kids and now our kids are doing the same with theirs. Quote
GrundleLove Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 My GAWD who cares...seriously. "omg a teacher is teaching my child about genderless who-ha" WHO CARES I hate things like this because it just feels like people argue for the sake of arguing. It has nothing to do with my life whatsoever So I do not care. Wanna teach my kid that? Fine. it will probably not have any effect on them in life at all and maybe it will actually teach them something so that when they see a Pat walking down the street they dont freak out. Seriously it boggles my mind why ANYONE would give a **** about this at all. Quote
Nice_Bass Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 "Seriously it boggles my mind why ANYONE would give a **** about this at all." What he said... as well as the points snook made. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 Parents do. This is their territory. Reading, math, science, etc. is the school's. Hermaphroditic clownfish has what to do human sexuality or gender? I just don't get the comparison, or how either brings up the opportunity to discuss the other. Makes zero sense. What boggles my mind is the amount of basic teaching I've been burdened with by my sons' teachers. Here's an example of the time wasted in the classroom. LOL, normally I don't care about this stuff either, and I'm pretty liberal. This is just stupid. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 At home my wife and I welcomed the opportunity to have these kinds discussions with our kids and now our kids are doing the same with theirs. That sums it up perfectly. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted May 26, 2011 Super User Posted May 26, 2011 My GAWD who cares...seriously. "omg a teacher is teaching my child about genderless who-ha" WHO CARES I hate things like this because it just feels like people argue for the sake of arguing. It has nothing to do with my life whatsoever So I do not care. Wanna teach my kid that? Fine. it will probably not have any effect on them in life at all and maybe it will actually teach them something so that when they see a Pat walking down the street they dont freak out. Seriously it boggles my mind why ANYONE would give a **** about this at all. Wild guess, no kids? Quote
GrundleLove Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 Wild guess, no kids? Yea but what does that have to do with anything? I still understand the reasoning for what I said and IF i had kids i would still have the same point. Look, a majority of who a child becomes in the future relies on the parents anyway, not the schools. I think that the main goal when being a parent is to make sure your child is not : a druggie, a criminal, a prostitute, etc...all the major stuff. If you can do that, you have succeed as a parent. All the other stuff about who they become and how they treat others thats all based on you as well, but not the schools. If my kid came home and said " my teacher taught us about people who are not male or female" I would say "hey cool! what's that all about" Now if I were like this morons i would say " OMG! WHAT?!?! AHHHH *calls school and channel 5* ..screams..yells on the phone" Now you tell me: what is going to mess your child up more? being relaxed and interested in their teachings or flipping out in front of your child as he looks in horror. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted May 26, 2011 BassResource.com Administrator Posted May 26, 2011 Look at the source. I have to agree it's highly biased and written for shock value. Probably not much "fact" in it at all. Besides, this topic is nothing new. The hippies were saying this and a whole lot more in the '60's. Much ado about nothing. Moving on.... Quote
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