Super User Root beer Posted May 19, 2011 Super User Posted May 19, 2011 http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/05/18/health-experts-attack-mcdonalds-but-can-they-bite-into-its-bot/?icid=maing-grid7|aim|dl1|sec1_lnk2|64222 My questions are, why isn't some of the other restaurants getting attacked too? Maybe it the sheer amount of high volume of people that eat at McDonald's that make it a target? Is McDonald's to blame? What about the parents shoving these types of food in their children mouth? The bottom line is that the world is wild. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted May 19, 2011 Super User Posted May 19, 2011 'Nother reason to eat at the BK Lounge, lol Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted May 19, 2011 Super User Posted May 19, 2011 i dont see the problem with McDonalds. Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted May 19, 2011 Super User Posted May 19, 2011 They go after McDonalds because they are the biggest target out there. The menu selection isn't any more toxic than any other chain restaurant or the local bar and grill who serves the best burger in town. But wouldn't it be a waste of time to attack Joe's Bar & Grill? Mr. McIntyre (the author of the piece) has worse problems though. Since when did Ronald McDonald become a marketing "toll"? A toll? Where's Long Mike!!! Quote
Locked Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 When are we going to start holding knives and forks accountable for making us obese. I think plates are also to blame for allowing you to take more food with you at one time. Next thing you know, I won't be able to enjoy McDonalds every now and then because some retard doesn't know how to parent their child. Quote
Captin Obvious Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Its the American legal system that lets people do this. Because in the long run it will be cheaper for MCD to pay them off then fight it in court. Capt.O Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 When are we going to start holding knives and forks accountable for making us obese. I think plates are also to blame for allowing you to take more food with you at one time. Next thing you know, I won't be able to enjoy McDonalds every now and then because some retard doesn't know how to parent their child. We need a national three day waiting period before you can buy eating utensils. Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 We go after McDonalds because parents are ignorant and not capable of making good decisions when it comes to their children's health/diet. So, instead of holding an ignorant, uneducated person accountable, we go after the deep pockets. I mean, really? I can name 5 people off the top of my head who are crack addicted prostitutes and still have custody of their children. Can you really hold them responsible for making sure their kids eat healthy? I'd like to see the statistics of what group of people frequent McDonalds the most. Low income, middle class or upper class families? Who feeds their children McDonalds food the most; high school drop outs, high school graduates, college graduates? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 Pretty much every chain gets a letter from some group at some point. It's just that the AP picked up this story..... Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 There are a percentage of people (men, women & children ) that are predisposed to being overweight, yet so many of them pay no attention and just pig out on junk. I do see many of the same "porkers" eating at places like the Golden Coral buffet where the food is pretty good and many healthy choices. Even eating extremely large portions of good healthy food is going to pack on the weight. I don't eat at fast food places more than a few times a year, but I don't blame places like McDonald's, they do offer options to mega calorie meals, but have yet to see a parent taking their child to a salad bar or not ordering the french fries. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 20, 2011 Global Moderator Posted May 20, 2011 My parents used to take me to McDonalds when I was little for a treat every now and then. I was an active kid and never became obese. Now I'm an adult and I still eat fast food occasionally but I know how bad that stuff is for me so I try to avoid it if possible. Some people are just too lazy to go home and make a PB&J or it doesn't sound as good as a Big Mac. Half the time it's the money that I would be spending that keeps me from going too. $5 dollars is a pretty reasonable amount to spend on lunch at a fast food place. Go there 5 times a week for lunch you got $25 (a new megabass jerkbait ) Do that 4 weeks in a row and now you've spend $100 (new rod,reel, or selection of tackle of your choice or gas for another trip to the lake). I think of it like that and it's pretty easy to say no most of the time. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 McDonalds, WalMart, Exxon, etc. It doesn't matter who or what it is, those at the top are evil, and need to be taken down a peg or two. It makes the insecure, jealous, or whatever feel better about themselves. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 Its the American legal system that lets people do this. Because in the long run it will be cheaper for MCD to pay them off then fight it in court. Capt.O Yep, it also added to the fact that it's never their fault and it has to be someone elses Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 We go after McDonalds because parents are ignorant and not capable of making good decisions when it comes to their children's health/diet. So, instead of holding an ignorant, uneducated person accountable, we go after the deep pockets. I mean, really? I can name 5 people off the top of my head who are crack addicted prostitutes and still have custody of their children. Can you really hold them responsible for making sure their kids eat healthy? I'd like to see the statistics of what group of people frequent McDonalds the most. Low income, middle class or upper class families? Who feeds their children McDonalds food the most; high school drop outs, high school graduates, college graduates? Dude, you know 5 crack addicted prostitutes? 1 Quote
GrundleLove Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 I love arguments like these. 16,000 people die of starvation every single day, mostly on Africa. That is 1 every 5 seconds and everyone is worried about American kids being to fat so hilarious how messed up this country is. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 I love arguments like these. 16,000 people die of starvation every single day, mostly on Africa. That is 1 every 5 seconds and everyone is worried about American kids being to fat so hilarious how messed up this country is. What's is messed up is your lack of awareness of how serious obesity can be. Many children, adults as well, are prone to be diabetics if weight is not controlled, not saying that diabetes only affects fat people. The disease itself cannot always be controlled and serious issues can arise, weaken immune system, loss of limbs, organs not performing properly,etc, etc. The economic affect on the healthcare systems may mean higher premiums, if you're employer pays them that may mean higher deductibles. With a higher healthcare cost to one's employer annual salary raises could be affected. Children may suffer social ramifications, as i remember " fat " kids do get picked on and made fun of, now they may nned therapy, another drain on healthcare costs. Be a wise move for people with this nonchalant attitude NOT TO HAVE KIDS OF THEIR OWN ! 1 Quote
jeremyt Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 I agree with some of the other posters, it's easier to place the blame elsewhere as it is to take responsibility for your own actions. The only other observation that I would like to add to this though is the fact that it is sad that some families eat fast food 7 days a week because a $1 cheeseburger and coke is cheaper to them than going grocery shopping. I see this a lot with the lower income house holds. That dollar value menu is where it's at 2 Quote
GrundleLove Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 What's is messed up is your lack of awareness of how serious obesity can be. Many children, adults as well, are prone to be diabetics if weight is not controlled, not saying that diabetes only affects fat people. The disease itself cannot always be controlled and serious issues can arise, weaken immune system, loss of limbs, organs not performing properly,etc, etc. The economic affect on the healthcare systems may mean higher premiums, if you're employer pays them that may mean higher deductibles. With a higher healthcare cost to one's employer annual salary raises could be affected. Children may suffer social ramifications, as i remember " fat " kids do get picked on and made fun of, now they may nned therapy, another drain on healthcare costs. Be a wise move for people with this nonchalant attitude NOT TO HAVE KIDS OF THEIR OWN ! someone dies every 5 seconds from starvation and you are complaining about the effects of diabetes and healthcare costs and being picked on at school? rofl I'm sure a kid in Africa would love to have healthcare to begin with, or a school to go to for that matter bringing the hippie attitude full force today. 1 Quote
Super User grimlin Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 I love arguments like these. 16,000 people die of starvation every single day, mostly on Africa. That is 1 every 5 seconds and everyone is worried about American kids being to fat so hilarious how messed up this country is. Let's be fair,obesity,can lead to a lot of health problems including mental.Want to know why American kids are getting stupider and lazier every year? The lack of nutrition that our body and mind needs isn't getting it from fast food. I like how they are getting rid of our rights to smoke and raising taxes ridiculously high,yet I bet at least 75% of our health problems come from fast food.Just look at the growing rate of diabetes here.We are eating ourselves to a 6 foot grave. Yet we have nobody to blame but ourselves.Peer pressure can be pretty strong sometimes. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 I really didn't see the need to address starvation, AIDS, civil wars genocide or any other problems associated with people living in Africa, the topic is about McDonalds and the ingestion of fast foods. The effects of obesity does affect us all, the diabetic issue is but one aspect. bringing the hippie attitude full force today. Are you likening yourself to a hippie? Can't really see the association. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 someone dies every 5 seconds from starvation and you are complaining about the effects of diabetes and healthcare costs Let me put this into perspective for you. I'm type 1 diabetic, neither caused or controlled by diet, but some studies show that 1 in 7 people are either prediabetic, or diabetic - type 2 diabetes, caused by poor diet, among other things. My costs out of pocket - and these are non negotiable, I need the drugs or I die a slow and painful death - are significant. Consider that my healthcare covers 70% of the costs, and you'll see where 1 in 7 and rising is indeed a scary stat. Insulin Pump: $2200 every three years Injection sets and pump supplies: $500 each quarter Insulin: $100 each month Blood Glucose Meter: $125 every year Strips for the meter: $100 each month Trips to docs and specialists (Endochrine, Derm, Internist, Pediatrist): $40 per visit, at least once a quarter That's just what I pay out of pocket. One in seven people have high blood sugar. In ten years it will be an EPIDEMIC. Now, do I think someone should tell McDonalds or BK that their food is bad? Heck no! Just make the info available to consumers (it's on the paper tray inserts), and start educating people how to use that info. 2 Quote
jeremyt Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 My son is also type 1 found that out when he was 12. We used to take him out to eat like once a week or more often. The hardest part for him and us, was getting him to realize that his eating habits couldn't be the same. He still has his moments when he wants to go out with friends and gorge himself. Luckily he has only been in the hospital once and that was the initial onset. Diabetes is more prevelant now than it was 5 to 10 years ago. So are a lot of other illnesses and I really agree with J Franco. It's sad that I have to buy a book to get the nutritional content from and it would be nice if these chains listed all of the info upfront, but I don't have to take my family out to eat it is something that we choose to do and by doing so how can I complain about a chain. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 20, 2011 Super User Posted May 20, 2011 Agree with J.Francho. I am a type 2 diabetic, I may have been predisposed as my dad was a type 1 but my diet played a significant role in my high blood sugar. My costs are a fraction of what Francho's are as I'm on medicare. Meter free,test strips free, medication $6 per month copay and diabetic specialist $30 every 3 months copay, lab bloodwork $10 copay. I'm getting off real easy but younger people don't have that luxury. Quote
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