What Does The Gloomis Term Magnum Or Mag Mean?

[philsoreel]

Is this a power rating? Like medium, medium heavy, heavy, then magnum??

[Uncle Leo]

It has to do with the size taper the rod is built with.

 

[philsoreel]

Yeah, I've already read that but I guess I don't understand enough about tapers. Does it translate into a stiffer backbone?

[Uncle Leo]

More backbone and more power, yes.

[philsoreel]

When they say taper, is it referring to the thickness of the blank tapering down from butt to tip and where does the action come into the equation?

[Hooligan]

Yes, they're talking about that taper.

For instance, in the Bronzeback they have a MagLight rod. The rod's action is an extremely powerful light action rod with an xfast tip. The Mag rods are typically much more powerful in the but section of the rod, tapering rather quickly to a fast or extra fast tip. In general they are more powerful than their counterparts, while still retaining the tip action needed to present baits and work them effectively.

Edit: The reason I use the Light action rod is because the difference is much more apparent. If you compare the SMR750S to a comparable Avid, you'll notice the tremendous difference in the butt section of the rod.

[philsoreel]

I have a 7'2" Cumara Medium Extra fast that I've been using for shakeyhead fishing. It works pretty good for shakeyhead but I want a little more hooksetting power. Since drop-shotting is quickly working it's way into my must have combos I was thinking about using the Cumara for my DS rod and getting a GLoomis SHR821S Mag-Light or SHR822S Mag-Med for shaking. I don't have a local store that carries them, not even BPS, to pick them up and compare them. I would just go with the Mag-Med but sometimes I throw a 1/16th and it's not rated for weight that small. My Cumara is also only rated for 1/8th and it struggles throwing a 1/16th on fluorocarbon.

[Hooligan]

You wouldn't like the 821 much, I don't think. It's borderline too light. The 822 is a great all around rod for Shaking. The Cumara will excel as your dropshot rod. I haven't found a rod that I like more for the purpose.

[philsoreel]

You wouldn't like the 821 much, I don't think. It's borderline too light. The 822 is a great all around rod for Shaking. The Cumara will excel as your dropshot rod. I haven't found a rod that I like more for the purpose.

For shakeyhead, would you say the 822 has more hook setting power than the Cumara?

[Intermediate angler]

No you guys let’s get one thing straight taper means the action of the rod. Need proof go to tackle warehouse and search up your rod and you’ll see taper translate to action

[casts_by_fly]

[FishTank]

[QED]

As consumers, we should boycott firms that use marketing speak instead of objective industry standard terms.

[WRB]

Action defines the % of flex tip down.

Power defines the lifting force.

Think of Magnum as 1/2 + power increase. 

Since these are subjective terms for power and action, not defined objectively with standards each rod maker varies.

Loomis choose the term Magnum in lieu of + to differ a 3 power rod that not a 4 power rod in the same models.

Tom

 

 

[MN Fisher]

20 minutes ago, QED said:

As consumers, we should boycott firms that use marketing speak instead of objective industry standard terms.

First thing is to get the rod manufacturers to actually agree on a standard...one brand's MH/F is another brand's M/MF

[QED]

Agreed that the industry standard terms for action and power are interpreted somewhat differently from brand to brand but to coin altogether new terms that aren't even descriptive (magnum usually refers to a wine bottle size or a belted large capacity cartridge) is just intentionally creating consumer confusion to avoid comparative shopping.