What Keeps Line Manufacturers...

[trevor]

With all these castable, mono-like fluorocarbons coming out, would we ever know if a line manufacturer just packaged mono as fluoro? I know that fluoro sinks, and mono floats. But....

[ToledoEF]

If they were discovered it would be like suicide for their business.

[BassThumb]

I haven't seen a flouro yet that could be mistaken for mono. Even stiff mono is more supple than the most castable fluoro, IMO.

[SausageFingers]

If they were discovered it would be like suicide for their business.

x2. No one would be able to put any faith in their products. The company would fold.

[Quillback]

I'm more concerned about strength rating, seems to be variable by manufacturer.

[bigbassctchr101]

I think in all reality, they probably do it. And I believe many companies do it (not just fishing) A car that runs 90% on gas and 10% battery/solared power is still a hybrid car. A gas additive that "increases octane ratings" could only increase it by .5% and still be considered a gas additive that increases octane. I am not a big fan of flourocarbon, but I have seen what industries can and will do to increase dollar amount with more additives (this is true especially in plastic and polymers). I don't know and have no bias towards one company or another, but it seems like a couple companies make sure they say, 100% flourocarbon in one or two types of line, even if they offer another type of flourocarbon line. If your wanting 100% flouro, I think something that states that they are 100% is your best bet of getting that.

[J Francho]

Fluorocarbon is a mono filament line.

[Hooligan]

I think in all reality, they probably do it. And I believe many companies do it (not just fishing) A car that runs 90% on gas and 10% battery/solared power is still a hybrid car. A gas additive that "increases octane ratings" could only increase it by .5% and still be considered a gas additive that increases octane. I am not a big fan of flourocarbon, but I have seen what industries can and will do to increase dollar amount with more additives (this is true especially in plastic and polymers). I don't know and have no bias towards one company or another, but it seems like a couple companies make sure they say, 100% flourocarbon in one or two types of line, even if they offer another type of flourocarbon line. If your wanting 100% flouro, I think something that states that they are 100% is your best bet of getting that.

Couldn't disagree more.

100% Fluorocarbon lines say they're 100% because they're using full resin, opposed to a co-polymer line that isn't 100%, it's coated. Of course they're going to tell you the difference between by announcing one at 100% and one being just a fluorocarbon coat or co-poly. There's no False advertising and there's no deception at all. All you have to do is read the package to determine what you're getting.

Agree with Francho, fluorocarbon is a monofilament, as is nylon monofilament.

[bigbassctchr101]

I wasn't really trying to say that companies were passing off regular "mono" line as flourocarbon line. But the topic title could cover all grounds from mono-co-poly-fouro. I am just saying that with a co poly for example it would be good to make sure how exactly it is being made. This is a description of one co-poly, co-extruded hybrid of an advanced coplymer inner core with an outer layer of premium fluorocarbon. So, as long as the outer layer has a flouro carbon coating of any kind, it will be a co-polymer. This is where I believe some descrepancies could be made. How well or how much of a coating of flourocarbon would you be getting on one brand or another of co-poly? If you were getting the same type, same amount, and the same stuff, then every brand would perform and cost the same.

[philsoreel]

Not saying it's infallible but I'm playing with a spool of 8# Tatsu right now and no matter how soft it is for a fluoro it still has that guitar string effect. On semi-slack line FC's have a much better ability to carry a vibration than mono. I'm also playing with some 12# Sunline Super Natural mono...the closest mono to FC I've ever used and it's still not mistakable for FC.

I've been on a quest for a year and a half to find the end all of FC's for myself. If it's being done, I believe it's in the cheaper range of lines. With premium FC's the sensitivity is just crazy.

[johnD.]

Its called the marketing machine.

[philsoreel]

Its called the marketing machine.

Agreed but....I've found some applications where the line that says "Fluorocarbon" on the box works better than the one that says mono. lol

[Fish Fast]

I agree about the GREAT MARKETING MACHINE theory. You can't watch a hunting or fishing show nowadays without them plugging their products. KVD swearing by fluoro line, etc. What I wonder is....and this is a little off topic, but with a product like line, you wonder how many of them try and use different products when they are sponsoring someone else. For example, an angler that agrees to plug say, cxx, but cant stand it, so they spool up some other manufacturer's line and just tell the cameras that it is cxx?!?

This will be my first year fishing with real fluoro (viscous elite pro)...so the verdict is still out. My buddies tell me I will hate it!