Super User clayton86 Posted April 27, 2011 Super User Posted April 27, 2011 So I was surfing BR this am at work as IV always done sense the day I joined. I do this when my kids are taking notes and I have free time because I'm a teachers aide in a career and tech school for diesel/AG mechanics. Well I'm reading they block BR this sets me off just a little so I email the administrator politely asking why. Well now I'm getting this line of crap about policy and its a non educational site. IV found a loop hole in every response hilighted it and mailed it back. This has been going on sense 9am. So now I'm forced to use my POS ally phone to post. I see where there coming from to some extent but not blocking it and jerking me around. Maybe a simple only go on during lunch or when no students are around. IV used the site articals for English credit write ups as well sense anything outdoors can cover there write ups. Then to top things off after the block I go to use the bathroom and the kids start kicking the door in its a retarded thing they like to do well I snapped the whole class wentvsilent and in shock. They were all like "OMG Mr. George you never yell or get mad" I'm a pretty laid back easy going Guy but between getting blocked from BR then having the door kicked in when taking a whiz I blew my top. 1 Quote
GTrombly Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 You can probably use a proxy server to go around their blocking site blocker/firewall. There are a ton of them so if they block the proxy server use a new one. just make sure you use the same one all the time till they block it. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted April 27, 2011 Super User Posted April 27, 2011 Life's rough sometimes . Quote
ROCbass Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 The bottom line is you're at work, you should be working. I'm not saying I've never taken the occasional unscheduled break, but I realized I had no right to get angry when my boss called me on it either. 4 Quote
Super User grimlin Posted April 27, 2011 Super User Posted April 27, 2011 The bottom line is you're at work, you should be working. I'm not saying I've never taken the occasional unscheduled break, but I realized I had no right to get angry when my boss called me on it either. I hate to agree,but yeah....you are at work.Not sure exactly what a teacher's aide or what they do. If we got caught surfing the net it's 2 warning then fired.We are suppose to be working,not playing online. Bring your own lap top and use it on your breaks.That'll solve the whole problem. Quote
brushhoggin Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 At least you're not an english teacher 2 Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Super User Posted April 27, 2011 Yeah my english sucks I know math and science was my thing. But as a teachers aide all I do basicly is assist the teacher with what ever like grade papers hand out work help in the shop. I only go on BR when I have down time and if I gotta do something I drop it and do what needs to get done and there's no problem. Like I said I joined in what january been on everyday sense while at work never an issue but today they blocked BR, BPS,TW, GANDER. All the others were cuz of shoping bu for BR it says "exeption" like they couldent come up with anything else. My supervisor is agreeing with me as he doesn't see the issue as well as long as its when I have down time wich is very often sense its the end of the year. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 27, 2011 Super User Posted April 27, 2011 My boss doesn't care what I do. I'm productive and as long as I continue to pump out what an 18 person team could not, he's happy. If browsing forums while I'm waiting for code to compile makes more productive, then so be it. Some would argue that I could be busy working during that time. I say, there's only so much you can pay a guy, or push a guy to in a day without burning out. If company policy prohibits casual and occasional browsing, then tough nuts. Personally, I think the lazy get weeded out eventually, and the actual producers will use their smart phones to get around it all. Quote
brushhoggin Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 i feel for ya man. i also agree that the smartphone is the way to go Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Super User Posted April 27, 2011 Yeah exept I can't post the fish I caught onto the forums or any thing for that matter with a smart phone I don't own a pc at home Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Super User Posted April 27, 2011 Also about the how much you can pay a guy comment and productiveness my salary is $11,235 and that's befor taxs my wifes is the same she's a aide as well just with handicapped kids. So that little salary plus the crap u deal with from the kids def pushes you I teach 12grade in the am 11th in the afternoon so they are the kids with the worst attitudes I.e kicking the door when people are using the bathroom. As far as productivity iv been runner up for aide of the year sense I started only being beat out by the people retiring and I have also had perfict attendance sense iv started but that's been for every job sense pitching hail bails at age 13. So id say I'm def productive and "doing my work" in more then satasfactory manner. Quote
NateFollmer Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 My boss doesn't care what I do. I'm productive and as long as I continue to pump out what an 18 person team could not, he's happy. If browsing forums while I'm waiting for code to compile makes more productive, then so be it. Some would argue that I could be busy working during that time. I say, there's only so much you can pay a guy, or push a guy to in a day without burning out. If company policy prohibits casual and occasional browsing, then tough nuts. Personally, I think the lazy work get weeded out eventually, and the actual producers will use their smart phones to get around it all. X2 my boss knows we need to have "personal" time at work. Keeps us all more motivated and refreshed. We work (well some of us) our butts off when it's time to get work done, so we get the breaks. I wouldn't be able to be on here or do any of my side jobs if this weren't the case! Oh and you can upload photos from your phone. Get Dolphin Browser HD, set the user agent to desktop and you'll get BR just like the PC version. Uploading and galleries work just fine on Android. Quote
Super User Root beer Posted April 27, 2011 Super User Posted April 27, 2011 If you can't go a couple hours without visiting a website, you might have a problem. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted April 27, 2011 Super User Posted April 27, 2011 Try putting an "s" after the http in th adress bar of the blocked site url. ex : for http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/85785-now-im-mad/ you make it this https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/85785-now-im-mad/ It works on my schools blocked sites Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted April 27, 2011 Super User Posted April 27, 2011 A question. For those who think surfing the web is OK when you are on the company's dime, ponder this. You hire a plumber, electrician, carpenter, or whatever to do a job for you, and they charge by the hour. How would you react if you found them surfing the web, and charging you for that time? But, but, but, don't you know they produce more than they would in that eight hour day if they didn't have that down time to relax, refresh, and recharge their batteries. I must admit, I'm stunned that some employers not only tolerate, but actually encourage surfing the web on company time. 3 Quote
NateFollmer Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 A question. For those who think surfing the web is OK when you are on the company's dime, ponder this. You hire a plumber, electrician, carpenter, or whatever to do a job for you, and they charge by the hour. How would you react if you found them surfing the web, and charging you for that time? But, but, but, don't you know they produce more than they would in that eight hour day if they didn't have that down time to relax, refresh, and recharge their batteries. I must admit, I'm stunned that some employers not only tolerate, but actually encourage surfing the web on company time. We live in a different world today. I use a pc, cell phone, the internet, etc... in 99% of my work day (for work). Taking a 15 minute break to browse is no different than anyone taking a smoke break. We encourage social media usage, especially if it involves the company or community activities. It's powerful advertising and it's another form of media consumption (like watching the news). If that doesn't sway your thoughts, I'm salaried and normally work well over 40 hours. A few minutes of slacking a day won't hurt. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted April 28, 2011 Author Super User Posted April 28, 2011 Yeah I definitly spend less time on the web then people who spend puffing cancer sticks ever 45min 10 minutes each time. And ill bet almost any amount that if I or anyone were to walk into an administrators office they would have solitar pulled up or minesweeper. I can't even keep track of all the times iv gone to make copies in the superintendats office to see him playing games along with the secrataries. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted April 28, 2011 Super User Posted April 28, 2011 We live in a different world today. I use a pc, cell phone, the internet, etc... in 99% of my work day (for work). Taking a 15 minute break to browse is no different than anyone taking a smoke break. We encourage social media usage, especially if it involves the company or community activities. It's powerful advertising and it's another form of media consumption (like watching the news). If that doesn't sway your thoughts, I'm salaried and normally work well over 40 hours. A few minutes of slacking a day won't hurt. I didn't get the impression from the original poster that he was only browsing fifteen minutes per day. If your employer allows or encourages it, that's fine. It's their business to run as they see fit. But, for someone to get angry (mad) because their employer, or supervisor, doesn't allow it is another matter. I don't think it's unreasonable for any employer to prohibit personal activities on company time. 1 Quote
NateFollmer Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 Oh I agree with you there, you work there, you play by their rules. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted April 28, 2011 Author Super User Posted April 28, 2011 See my supervisor says its ok go for it the computor geek is the one who has a issue with it Quote
Super User Root beer Posted April 28, 2011 Super User Posted April 28, 2011 We study this in Marketing and Organizational Behavior. Psychologist believes allowing some this to take place on company's time, allows employees to relieve some stress and be more productive. Once you pass a certain stress threshold, you become unproductive. Companies have experimented with different ways to deal with this. One company (I cannot remember the name) has a sleeping room where employees can go in and take a nap. Some companies have a gym where they actually reward/encourage you for going to the gym and relief stress. I guess it all depends on where you work at and your duties. I think the internet is distracting for me when I'm doing school work. I even deleted Facebook so I wouldn't procrastinate and yet I still find ways to procrastinate. lol. I get more stuff done when I'm in library with no connection to internet and not playing on my phone. Eventually I take a break and go do something and it's not always the internet. Some organizations has a mentality such as "make the employees happy, then they will make the customers happy." Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted April 28, 2011 Super User Posted April 28, 2011 I agree with Rhino 100%. As a business owner for over 35 years I would never have tolerated internet surfing or more so taking job time to moderate a forum, even if one thinks they are on their own time and are exceptionally productive. No one is above replacement and the good times last just so long, maybe a new boss comes in or your present boss is getting pressure and develops a wild hair up his..... If one is getting a good salary with good benefits plus healthcare, they are doing their family a disservice by taking risks to jeopardize that position. Owning a business isn't easy and to be successful it takes real devotion, no time to "play" around, probably why most employees could never make it as owners, they lack what it takes. 1 Quote
OHIO Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 Some organizations have a mentality such as "make the employees happy, then they will make the customers happy." I completely agree with this. If you look at Google, you will see that this is very true. They allow their employees to make their own hours and basically let them do what they want as long as they get their work done. Google is an incredibly successful company and the way they treat their employees is a big reason for that. The only problem with this is when the employees take advantage of how much freedom they have. The OP didn't sound like he was taking advantage of his boss or not getting his work done, so I think he should be able to browse BR. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted April 28, 2011 Super User Posted April 28, 2011 Make the employees happy? I suppose that's ok for an employee who is in a dead end job with absolutely zero opportunity for advancement. But, if you want to improve your lot in life, work your way up the ladder, I suggest it's much better to impress your superiors with your abilities, ambition, and dedication to doing the best job you can. My parents taught me to do the best job I could, regardless of how menial it might be. I guess it's part of the new educational theories that deal more with maintaining the self esteem of students than actually educating them, and preparing them for the dog eat dog, competitive world that exists beyond the doors of academia. If you want to be successful in life, you have to impress others. There is no substitute for skill and hard work. 2 Quote
Uncle Leo Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 Make the employees happy? I suppose that's ok for an employee who is in a dead end job with absolutely zero opportunity for advancement. But, if you want to improve your lot in life, work your way up the ladder, I suggest it's much better to impress your superiors with your abilities, ambition, and dedication to doing the best job you can. My parents taught me to do the best job I could, regardless of how menial it might be. I guess it's part of the new educational theories that deal more with maintaining the self esteem of students than actually educating them, and preparing them for the dog eat dog, competitive world that exists beyond the doors of academia. If you want to be successful in life, you have to impress others. There is no substitute for skill and hard work. I agree 100% with you on this one Tom. Rules are rules and no one should expect an employer to pay you for anything other than doing your job. If a person has that expectation than it should be asked during the interview process but also expect an additional contribution to the unemployment rate. This post makes little sense. Tom's advice is advice that can be put to use in ever endeavor you seek in life. 1 Quote
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