Tip Heavy Rods

[slowpoke274]

i just purchased a mojo bass pitchin stick and put a quantum escalade on it and its a little tip heavy any suggestions on fixing this problem as the balancer sold at bass pro is for staight handled rods only

thanks for any suggestions in advance

[clayton86]

Yeah buy a veritas

[OHIO]

A lot of guys use floor protectors for chairs. Just slip it on the end of your rod.

[slowpoke274]

thanhs thats ot a bad idea at all

[Fish Chris]

Slowpoke, yes, I counterbalance "all" of my spinning rods like this... and BTW, if the cap itself does not weigh quite enough for the balance you prefer, quarters fit perfectly inside of 1" diam caps. You can also use a dab of clear silicone caulking to hold it on permanently, once you get the balance just right.

Only one thing though....

any suggestions on fixing this problem as the balancer sold at bass pro is for staight handled rods only

Yours is not a straight handled rod ? What type is it ? Not a pistol grip ? Because that might not work / look very good, trying to shove a round but cap over it.

Hmmm....

Fish

[SoFlaBassAddict]

Slowpoke, yes, I counterbalance "all" of my spinning rods like this... and BTW, if the cap itself does not weigh quite enough for the balance you prefer, quarters fit perfectly inside of 1" diam caps. You can also use a dab of clear silicone caulking to hold it on permanently, once you get the balance just right.

Only one thing though....

Yours is not a straight handled rod ? What type is it ? Not a pistol grip ? Because that might not work / look very good, trying to shove a round but cap over it.

Hmmm....

Fish

He's got a split grip, Chris.

The chair caps do work. You just need to get the right size and then experiment by adding X amount of weight inside of the cap to get the rod to balance like you want.

[SirSnookalot]

Tip balance will vary when using baits of different weights. Very normal for me to use a light weight xrap, then switch over to a 3/4oz spoon, then again to a cuda tube weighing well over an ounce. For me rod balance is a meaningless exercise.

[slowpoke274]

yup its a split grip balance is a big thing for me i want my rod tip to just float out there parallel to the water all my other rods are str8 grip and i have them all balanced perfectly was just unsure of how to achieve it with the split grip rods

[BassThumb]

Many people stay away from those Mojos for that very reason. I'd suggest returning it or trying to sell it in the flea market.

[s13john]

mojos seem to aways be tip heavy i have one of the mojo plastics and my veritas balances much better

[Bluebasser86]

If it was a different model I'd take it off your hands for you. I hear all kinds of negatives about it but I have several mojos and I love them. I don't notice them being extremly tip heavy and not sensitive. I do notice I catch a lot of fish with them and they are a tough rod. I've had higher end rods up to custom built G-Loomis rods but for the price I love the mojos. Anyways off my soap box, I'd try the floor protector idea and see if you can get the balance you want.

[slowpoke274]

thanks for the suggestions im going to try the floor protector idea im a fan of st croix rods i have several triumphs and they are tough durable and sensitive rods the balance issue aside i suspect my mojo will be the same thanks again for the positive input

[KYntucky Warmouth]

The BPS balancers work for split grip rods, a buddy has them on most of his Kistlers.

[Wayne P.]

I make my own balancing weights by purchasing lead egg sinkers in several weights and flattening them with a hammer to fit tightly inside the plastic chair tips. You need less volume than with quarters or the brass weights used in kits for the higher end BPS rods.

All my brass kits have lead instead, it makes the add-on shorter.

[dodgeguy]

all rods are tip heavy.there isn't one made that balances at the reel seat.that said i use the balancers bps sells.

[dulouz]

I would say it is up to personal preference as to where you want the balance point and what technique you are using. I like the balance point to be in front of the reel, about an inch or less. Too close to the reel and it just doesn't feel right. I also consider the technique. I keep my rod pointed at the water when I fish cranks, so it really doesn't make much of a difference how it balances.

[CKFishin]

I bought a glass Mojo rod when the came out early this year for shallow to medium cranks and I like it... I guess that's why there is more than one rod company huh?

[BobP]

You only need to balance rods used for "still" presentations like Texas rigs, etc. Moving presentations like crankbaits will always be tip heavy so it's a fool's errand. Personally, I don't like external rod balancing kits or fixes. I slice off the end of the butt cap with a single edged razor blade, fit some lead weight inside the blank, and epoxy the butt cap back on the rod. Don't epoxy in the lead, just get a friction fit - that way you can remove it later if desired.

[slowpoke274]

thanks for the replies tried the balancer out it doesnt quite fit right so ive got it rigged for now til i find somthing that works a little better

[KenG85]

all rods are tip heavy.there isn't one made that balances at the reel seat.that said i use the balancers bps sells.

Put a revo premier on a dobyns champion....it will float out of your hand.

[dodgeguy]

Put a revo premier on a dobyns champion....it will float out of your hand.

and it's still not balanced at the reel seat or even close.

[dodgeguy]

Put a revo premier on a dobyns champion....it will float out of your hand.

and it's still not balanced at the reel seat or even close.

[dulouz]

Put a revo premier on a dobyns champion....it will float out of your hand.

If you want it to balance at the reel seat it doesn't matter what reel you put on. Remember the physics of weight on the fulcrum, etc... If you want it to balance in front of the reel, yes it will matter.

[KenG85]

If you want it to balance at the reel seat it doesn't matter what reel you put on. Remember the physics of weight on the fulcrum, etc... If you want it to balance in front of the reel, yes it will matter.

That would make sense if the rod balanced at the reel seat, but it doesn't.

You place a 7oz. reel on a less than 4oz. rod. So the fact that it doesn't balance exactly at the reel seat doesn't make so much of a difference. Remeber physics T=FL. The reel is dense so when placed close the fulcrum creates balance against the 7' rod.

Like I said...hold it and fish it. It will feel like its floating out of your hand. Or put another way, the rod tip stays effortlessly pointed above horizontal.

[KenG85]

and it's still not balanced at the reel seat or even close.

First, I never agreed that balance at the reel seat is a good thing... Second I'm just saying that combo is extremely fishable, with minimal fatigue and excellent sensitivity. Who cares where its balanced. The idea of declaring a rod "tip heavy" is just saying that it adds fatigue while fishing and feels cumbersome. Definately not what that combo does.

Second, balance directly under your grip might not be the best thing. If you "remember physics", if you're gripping the fulcrum your losing the amplified force the fish is placing on the rod (torque). But if you're gripping lower than the fulcrum the force on your grip is magnified becaused f*L must = f*L