Super User Lund Explorer Posted April 23, 2011 Super User Posted April 23, 2011 If your state charges sales tax on items purchased through a retailer (in-state or mail/internet order), you will also find that there is a portion of that law that deals with purchases inter-state sales are completed without the tax added to the price. The tax is called a Use Tax. If you read that law, you will find that it is up to you to file a use tax return and pay the tax yourself. It is not a political issue but a legal and possibly a moral one. Anyone who knowingly breaks this law runs the risk of getting caught. They should also fully understand that they have lost the right to "tsk-tsk" the next guy who breaks another law they may wish to see enforced. If you were to research the amount of lost tax revenues many of these states suffer, you would see that current tax rates wouldn't need to be as high as they are. The bottom line is that it is your responsibility to abide by the laws of the state or locality in which you live. If you are going to try to justify any other actions, I'm sure you'll gladly support the guy who takes home twice his limit of fish. Think about it..... 1
Super User J Francho Posted April 24, 2011 Super User Posted April 24, 2011 They should also fully understand that they have lost the right to "tsk-tsk" the next guy who breaks another law they may wish to see enforced. Hmmmm.....that's pretty broad. I drove 10 MPH over the speed limit, today, with my kids in the truck <GASP!> but that doesn't mean I should look away at a drunk driver.
Super User SirSnookalot Posted April 24, 2011 Super User Posted April 24, 2011 Kind of a follow up to what Lund said about lost revenue. On Good Friday CNBC ran some financial documentaries, as it normal does on Holiday days. One program dealt with lost federal revenue dealing with IRS fraud, uncollected back taxes and penalties, and businesses that operate in the grey area. According to the reporter, there would not be a federal deficit if these obligations were satisfied, hard to believe but maybe so. Even if a fraction of funds were collected, the state of affairs would be in a bit better shape.
flipin4bass Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 I do not have as much of a problem with the sales tax as I do with shipping charges. I make 20-25 online orders each year to tackle stores so I'm always looking for deals regarding shipping and handling. I do not order from BP or Cabelas unless I can't find the item elsewhere or they run a special on shipping. I know BP an Cabelas have contracts with FedEx and UPS and are getting their shipping done a lot cheaper than what they are charging the consumer. They ARE making a profit from S&H. I now order almost exclusively form TW, BTD, or or other suppliers who offer free shipping on $50+ orders. If TW, BTD, and others can offer this service and still stay in buisness, then the kings of tackle like BP and Cabelas can too.
Super User Lund Explorer Posted April 24, 2011 Super User Posted April 24, 2011 Hmmmm.....that's pretty broad. I drove 10 MPH over the speed limit, today, with my kids in the truck <GASP!> but that doesn't mean I should look away at a drunk driver. Speaking of broadening the scope of the argument, I'm sure you realize that went a ways beyond what I was trying to get at. While it is probably useless to try to make a point with one of the gentlemen who is in charge of seeing that all of us obey the forum rules, including the part about respect for certain illegal activities, we could expand this to cover a wide variety of subjects to see where we all could agree or not when a law can be bent, stretched, or broken. It's all subjective to each person's pain threshhold. While someone might think just going 10mph over a speed limit is okay, until it is your child's school bus driver does the same maybe. This discussion could go to fishing regs to the guy that ignores rules about seasons or size and possession limits too. In my profession though, the subject of evading taxes comes up quite often. Whether its the guy who skips paying the tax on a $100 order, or the business owner who skims a few thousand a month, we each must ultimately answer to ourselves. Does the guy who only bends a little just more honest than the guy who stretches a lot, or is it that some are just better at it than others? I don't think I want to go there. 2
Lady Bookwyrm Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 Here is an interesting fact. The in-store sales tax rate for Bass Pro in Springfield, MO is higher than the surrounding stores. 8.75% vs local sales tax rate of 8.1%. Anyone know why?
Super User J Francho Posted March 25, 2021 Super User Posted March 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, Lady Bookwyrm said: Here is an interesting fact. The in-store sales tax rate for Bass Pro in Springfield, MO is higher than the surrounding stores. 8.75% vs local sales tax rate of 8.1%. Anyone know why? The answer is in your post: local sales tax. Sales tax can vary by county. Also, Happy Birthday upcoming for this thread. Hit the double digits! 1
Super User Deleted account Posted March 26, 2021 Super User Posted March 26, 2021 On 4/23/2011 at 10:20 PM, J Francho said: Hmmmm.....that's pretty broad. I drove 10 MPH over the speed limit, today, with my kids in the truck <GASP!> but that doesn't mean I should look away at a drunk driver. "should exists only between the ears of man, there is what is, and what isn't" If one is ok with picking and choosing which laws he/she follows, then the same applies to others. drawing an arbitrary line along the spectrum is illogical, and takes us to the legal v ethical. It becomes an analysis between ROI or the perceived probability of enforcement. As far as the tax thing. The codes of most states require the payment of sales/use tax on all applicable sales. What varies is the responsibility for the merchant to collect that tax at the time of the sale. In the case of sales not requiring the merchant to collect the tax, the purchaser is responsible to report and pay the tax. Obviously few if any do. Should they?... Merchants do not charge sales tax, they collect it, and the remit it , usually quarterly to the state, or other applicable municipality. 2
Super User J Francho Posted March 26, 2021 Super User Posted March 26, 2021 It's an eye for an eye - let the punishment fit the crime. In NY, if you're just one minute late with your sales tax, they come and chain up the doors to your business.
Super User Deleted account Posted March 26, 2021 Super User Posted March 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, J Francho said: It's an eye for an eye - let the punishment fit the crime. In NY, if your just one minute late with your sales tax, they come and chain up the doors to your business. Oh, I know, we sell sporting goods in the Empire State. 1
Super User dodgeguy Posted March 26, 2021 Super User Posted March 26, 2021 On 4/24/2011 at 2:14 AM, SirSnookalot said: Kind of a follow up to what Lund said about lost revenue. On Good Friday CNBC ran some financial documentaries, as it normal does on Holiday days. One program dealt with lost federal revenue dealing with IRS fraud, uncollected back taxes and penalties, and businesses that operate in the grey area. According to the reporter, there would not be a federal deficit if these obligations were satisfied, hard to believe but maybe so. Even if a fraction of funds were collected, the state of affairs would be in a bit better shape. And the economy would crash.
Super User Deleted account Posted March 26, 2021 Super User Posted March 26, 2021 41 minutes ago, J Francho said: It's an eye for an eye - let the punishment fit the crime. Let he who is without TW discount code throw the first (flimsy lipped ) crankbait... 1
Super User Bankc Posted March 26, 2021 Super User Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 9:17 AM, J Francho said: The answer is in your post: local sales tax. Sales tax can vary by county. Also, Happy Birthday upcoming for this thread. Hit the double digits! And sometimes by city. In my home city, the sales tax is 9%. I can drive 1/4 mile south, 1 mile east or 4 miles west and pay 7%.
Super User MN Fisher Posted March 26, 2021 Super User Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, Bankc said: And sometimes by city. In my home city, the sales tax is 9%. I can drive 1/4 mile south, 1 mile east or 4 miles west and pay 7%. Happens everywhere. Hennepin county put in a 'temporary' tax to help fund the Metrodome. The 'Dome is gone, replaced...and that 'temporary' tax is still in place. Go to Carver county and you don't pay that extra.
kdubracing Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 4/23/2011 at 10:19 AM, 3dees said: here in Illinois the law is if there is a store in the state then you pay tax. they are trying to pass a new law where you will pay tax no matter what. how I hate this state. I'm in Illinois and I have been charged sales tax on every online order I've made in a while save one. I just received a Tackle Warehouse order today and was charged sales tax. There definitely isn't a Tackle Warehouse in Illinois. edit: just noticed this is an old post and things have likely changed since then.
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted March 27, 2021 BassResource.com Administrator Posted March 27, 2021 21 hours ago, kdubracing said: just noticed this is an old post and things have likely changed since then. And scene....
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