Super User roadwarrior Posted September 23, 2009 Super User Posted September 23, 2009 My focus this season, besides hooking up with the New World Record ;D ;D, is to spend more time fishing artificials. This is how I might break it down: 1st hour: Topwater 2nd hour: Jerkbaits 3rd hour: Spinnerbaits 10-2:00 : Jig 2:00- Dark: Minnows if the lures haven't worked Thoughts? 8-) Quote
Uncle Leo Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Bet you get the WR on a jig! Use a Rage Tail Chunk as a trailer. 8-) Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted September 23, 2009 Super User Posted September 23, 2009 I am a huge fan of the jig with smallies. The smallies here just seem to love them. Good luck Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 23, 2009 Super User Posted September 23, 2009 That sounds like a plan for big fish. Its a lot of commitment, though. There will be times you'll want to react to whats going on, though stick with the big fish mentality. One situation is when fish are busting the surface, feeding on bait fish in the middle of the day. Gonna be tough to stick with the jig when that is happening. Tie on a HUGE musky-size top water or jerkbait, and see if there's a monster, waiting in the wings. Quote
sodaksker Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 The last couple of years I have put more emphasis on musky fishing than bass. I have been surprised by the number of big bass I have caught on six to nine inch baits or big double bladed spinnerbaits. I have also been amazed at the number of 1.5 to 2lb bass that will hit these big baits. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 23, 2009 Author Super User Posted September 23, 2009 The issues involved in sticking with a plan are complicated by specific events, like busting bass for example. A quick switch under those conditions is probably the right move. However, more generally, we never know if success is the spot, lure, time or presentation. Jig fishing can be the worst. An hour without a bite, then BAM! What if you had quit or changed tactics after 59 minutes? On the other hand, the bite last weekend was a few minutes into the first drift. No confidence issues there! So, I appreciate the insight and will keep my "event" options open, but still maintain focus on one technique at a time. I think this is how I want to roll, but would you fish something else or would you mix it up with more variety 15 or 30 minutes at a time? Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted September 23, 2009 Super User Posted September 23, 2009 There were two things missing that struck me as odd, I didn't see your hula grub single tail mentioned , or soft plastics at all. Also didn't see crankbaits mentioned either. For me at 2 pm it would be too early to switch to minnows if I were really trying the lures first, looking at your time frame you will be giving the minnows more water time than the mixture of lures in the summer months. I think that some plastics need thrown in and cb's including rattl traps. As far as switching out, I try to give a bait an hour before switching, sometimes I'll start throwing and just feel like it isn't going to work that day, more overcast than I thought to sunny, to windy etc. and will switch pretty quick. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 23, 2009 Author Super User Posted September 23, 2009 I fished soft plastics last year a minimum of two hours on most outings. I caught a lot of spots and largemouth, but smallmouth were few and the ones I caught were small. Now, don't get me wrong, soft plastics are my strong suit and I appreciate the observation. It didn't work out last year, so I want to try some other things. Regarding crankbaits, the Rat-L-Trap type lures is an option. Deep divers are out for the most part, they will all be lost. The guys I fish will be fishing live bait and I just can't interrupt them to go after lures: Use it, be prepared to lose it. p.s. The GYCB Single Tail Hula Grub was my best producer last year on the river. This bait has performed significantly better for me than tubes. Regular grubs are very popular too, but I can't keep the Kentucky bass off them. 8-) Quote
Fat-G Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 With all due respect, and there is A LOT of respect to be due, why wouldn't you just fish was just working? I usually do. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 24, 2009 Author Super User Posted September 24, 2009 With all due respect, and there is A LOT of respect to be due, why wouldn't you just fish was just working? I usually do. I want to fish artificials and target big fish. 8-) Quote
Super User Dan: Posted September 24, 2009 Super User Posted September 24, 2009 I think focusing more on artificials is a good idea. Chances are you will get more frustrated but it will also be more rewarding. If you are specifically targeting big fish, why not allot some time for swimbaits? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 24, 2009 Author Super User Posted September 24, 2009 I have had some luck with GYCB Swim Senkos, but have not fished a classic swimbait. I could be a pioneer, but I don't really think that's the ticket. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted September 24, 2009 Super User Posted September 24, 2009 Why not fish a real swimbait? When the topwater bite is on I'd be willing to bet that a big smallmouth would be just as willing to hit a big wake bait as it would be to hit a big spook or something. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 24, 2009 Author Super User Posted September 24, 2009 I appreciate the suggestion. That might be the answer. Have you caught some quality smallmouth on a big swimbait? If so, which one? 8-) Quote
Super User Dan: Posted September 24, 2009 Super User Posted September 24, 2009 I appreciate the suggestion. That might be the answer. Have you caught some quality smallmouth on a big swimbait? If so, which one? 8-) Nope, we don't get real big smallies around me. I've caught a lot of largemouth with a 7" Slammer just this summer and I think with their aggressive nature it would be a great way to catch big smallmouth that are actively feeding on the surface and even some that aren't. The undulating action and noise of a true swimbait can really be a fish magnet. If you're targeting BIG fish then it's worth a try. Quote
Super User Tin Posted September 24, 2009 Super User Posted September 24, 2009 If you want big smallies on a fun pattern and light tackle learn to drop-shot. Look on the graph, see the fish, drop the drop-shot down on its head, feel the weight, then reel up. It is the best way to target big smallies because you can see them. You can look at how long the arch is, proportion it to the depth, but a weight on it, then decide if you want to fish for it. Worst comes to worst you fight a big drum or sheeps head on 6 pound line and a medium-light rod. Good times... Quote
Chris W Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 RW I have had some luck fishing the 4.5 and 5.5 Strike King swimbaits on Dale Hollow. I have not had a huge fish hit them yet but have had several in the 4.5 to 5.5lb range on them. It will be interesting to see if this fall if I can catch some bigger ones on them when the crankbait bite starts going. Are you fishing Pickwick? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 24, 2009 Author Super User Posted September 24, 2009 I rarely fish the lake, I fish the river below the dam. Occasionally I fish the Wilson tailwaters, technically Pickwick Reservoir. I'm a river rat! 8-) Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted September 24, 2009 Super User Posted September 24, 2009 Kent, look at the 3:16 Hyper Herring. http://www.316lurecompany.com/baits/hh.html Has smallmouth written all over it. Quote
Volman482 Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 If ya are going topwater WTD type, you got to try Tail Walker Lures. They are awesome!!! Quote
the crab Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Ever fish with soft plastic jerk baits much? The Case Plastics SSS (salty sinking shad) is a phenomenal big fish bait for smallies. It's very similar to a super fluke but I think it has a little more action. It's my go-to in moving water. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted September 28, 2009 Super User Posted September 28, 2009 Ever fish with soft plastic jerk baits much? The Case Plastics SSS (salty sinking shad) is a phenomenal big fish bait for smallies. It's very similar to a super fluke but I think it has a little more action. It's my go-to in moving water. It sinks quicker which is great but it is also a lot less durable. I still like them enough to buy them. Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 My biggest producers for Smallmouth are Drop Shot, Jerkbait, Shakyhead, Senko, Tubes (or Equivalent), Lipless Crankbaits, and Jigging Spoons. I don't know how these lures would fit in on a river setting (since I fish almost all lakes), but I think your game plan is solid. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted October 7, 2009 Super User Posted October 7, 2009 My focus this season, besides hooking up with the New World Record ;D ;D, is to spend more time fishing artificials. This is how I might break it down: 1st hour: Topwater 2nd hour: Jerkbaits 3rd hour: Spinnerbaits 10-2:00 : Jig 2:00- Dark: Minnows if the lures haven't worked Thoughts? 8-) That list looks pretty deadly to me! I might add "tubes" to that list, and to the jig listed I'd try a "curly-tail grub", "pork rind strip" and "live worm" (oh yah). As a side note, Billy Westmoreland caught "two" 10-lb smallies on a 1/8oz black hair jig dressed with pork rind strip. With regard to the next world record though, I'd have to go with "live minnows" As if you didn't know 8-) Roger Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 7, 2009 Author Super User Posted October 7, 2009 The "plan" isn't working out too good. Last Saturday my partner had twelve in the boat, a couple 4+, and I had not had a bite until I switched to minnows. Five minutes into the drift I caught the big fish of the day. We ended up with 40+, several 4s, 5s and a 6+...all on minnows. Live bait 40 Artificials -0- I'm changing up the mix a little, but still plan to spend two hours at least working lures. It's REALLY hard to do with the guys I fish with. : Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.