alanmikkelsen Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 When catching larger (3#+) bass, why do most people lip them rather than net them? Is it legal to use nets in most tournaments? I'm curioius, since I come from a lifetime of trout, steelhead and salmon fishing, where we use nets all the time. When watching bass programs on TV, I never see a net used, even for 5+ pound fish. Quote
BaitBall Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 I think it is a personal preference. I use a net ever since I purchased a boat with high gunnels (I have a 2 year old daughter). It is hard for me to reach far into the water with just my hand. I use the newer type mesh nets which seem more gentle on the fish and I like a 30" handle for my boat. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted March 10, 2008 Super User Posted March 10, 2008 When catching larger (3#+) bass, why do most people lip them rather than net them? Is it legal to use nets in most tournaments? I'm curioius, since I come from a lifetime of trout, steelhead and salmon fishing, where we use nets all the time. When watching bass programs on TV, I never see a net used, even for 5+ pound fish. IT'S AGAINST THE RULES. Quote
Fish Chris Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Netting can reduce the odds of losing the fish.... But I'd only worry about this if I thought I had a really big fish on {new PB, lake record, state record, etc}. Otherwise, lipping them is so much quicker and easier. Peace, Fish Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 10, 2008 Super User Posted March 10, 2008 The smallmouth in the Tennessee River are too big to lift with one arm. We always net them unless they are "tournament" fish. 8-) Quote
Super User Tin Posted March 10, 2008 Super User Posted March 10, 2008 You forgot one option, flipping. In most smallmouth lakes I fish I'm pitching jigs (Heavy action, 30 pound braid) or dragging football jigs (17 pound fluoro). Even my PB smallie which is just under 5 pounds I flipped in the boat. The inside of a smallies' mouth is harder than that of a largemouth so the odds of ripping a hole in it on the flip is usually not going to happen. Knock on wood I have never lost a fish on the flip. If your going to loose a smallie, it will be one of the times it rockets out of the water 4' and head shakes. The only time I wouldn't flip them is when I have them on light line or on a treble hooed bait, I will grab them behind the head put them in the boat that way. Quote
Phishin Fillip Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 I prefer lipping just because you get the feel of the fish right away in your hand. Theres nothing like it. Quote
NBR Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 BASS don't allow nets but FLW does. I usually just hoist them on board or if they are large use a rubber net when they have a bunch of hooks on a crank or surface bait that I could stick in my hands or arm. Quote
HesterIsGod Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Some nets can hurt fishes natural coating of slime. Quote
alanmikkelsen Posted March 10, 2008 Author Posted March 10, 2008 Some nets can hurt fishes natural coating of slime. I hear this all the time, but I also deal with fisheries biologists that do fish rescues from irrigation canals at the end of the season, as well as electroshock surveys and they use nets all the time and don't seem to feel it's an issue???shrug? Quote
HesterIsGod Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Some nets can hurt fishes natural coating of slime. I hear this all the time, but I also deal with fisheries biologists that do fish rescues from irrigation canals at the end of the season, as well as electroshock surveys and they use nets all the time and don't seem to feel it's an issue???shrug? I am not that well informed on this issue, but I am pretty sure that different nets are better or worse for the bass's natural slime, and I assume that the biologists use nets made of materials that are not that harmful. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 11, 2008 Super User Posted March 11, 2008 Buy a rubber net. 8-) Quote
Fish Chris Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 I love this statement made by old school trophy bass angler {and one of my big bass idols growing up} Dan Kadota; "If it's only like a 10 to 13 lb'er, then it's not really important either way..... but if it's a BIG fish, use a net" :-) Different perspectives are funny, huh ? Peace, Fish Quote
fishizzle Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Rubber nets at Cabelas are under $20 and its alot easier to get treble hooks out of a rubber net I only use a net in tourneys when theres money on the line Shame on me Quote
farmpond1 Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 One of the gauges I use for determining if I've had a good day is whether there are little tooth marks on my thumb. So I always lip them. But that's just me. Also, I find a net gets in the way. On a side note for a different species, I seldom net a pike because they spin around in the net and make a big mess of things. It then takes three times as long to release them. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 11, 2008 Super User Posted March 11, 2008 "If it's only like a 10 to 13 lb'er, then it's not really important either way..... but if it's a BIG fish, use a net" :-) Peace, Fish In the context of this section, "Smallmouth Bass Fishing," that might be considered a BIG fish! : Quote
farmpond1 Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 One of the gauges I use for determining if I've had a good day is whether there are little tooth marks on my thumb. So I always lip them. But that's just me. Also, I find a net gets in the way. On a side note for a different species, I seldom net a pike because they spin around in the net and make a big mess of things. It then takes three times as long to release them. Oh, incidentally, by saying I don't net pike I didn't mean to imply I lip them. I'm kinda dumb sometimes but not that stupid. Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted March 11, 2008 Super User Posted March 11, 2008 if i cant swing them, i net them. I can swing 5lbers, lol. Quote
Tokyo Tony Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Another option is to use a gripper/scale like a Boga Grip. I have a budget Boga-style scale with a gripper, and the thing is an absolute godsend. I do a lot of smallie fishing with jerkbaits and other treble lures, and especially with the smaller fish, I just reach down with the gripper and grab that lip (takes some practice). It prevents me from getting hooked, and it's actually also easier on the fish. LMB I usually just lip, but smaller-sized feisty smallies with mouths full of Gammies are just not healthy on the hands Quote
blake83 Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 yea a net does wear away the fishes protective slime coat but a rubber net doesnt Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 21, 2008 Super User Posted March 21, 2008 Personal choice to lip or net. Bouncing is another issue altogether. The boat carpet and the fish banging into hard objects is diffinately harmful to the bass, regardless of what type it is. Knotless nets are the type to get, the rubber nets are too heavy to handle IMO. If you are fishing with multiple treble hook lures, net the bass and save your hands from hook injury. BASS needs to change their rule about nets. Check this net fish; see Butch Brown's 19.3 post. Not a smallie!!! WRB Quote
WTRDOG Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 You forgot one option, flipping. In most smallmouth lakes I fish I'm pitching jigs (Heavy action, 30 pound braid) or dragging football jigs (17 pound fluoro). Even my PB smallie which is just under 5 pounds I flipped in the boat. The inside of a smallies' mouth is harder than that of a largemouth so the odds of ripping a hole in it on the flip is usually not going to happen. Knock on wood I have never lost a fish on the flip. If your going to loose a smallie, it will be one of the times it rockets out of the water 4' and head shakes. The only time I wouldn't flip them is when I have them on light line or on a treble hooed bait, I will grab them behind the head put them in the boat that way. Flipping a 5# smallie in the boat,give me a break.O.K Roland Martin.... Your not catching smallies in R.I close to 5#.Don't try fooling anyone... :'( (close to 5 # means a 3# ) Here's what a 5# smallie looks like.. Quote
SuskyDude Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 I wish more tournament guys lipped them, rather than launching out of the water and bouncing them off the deck of the boat. But they're the pros..... : Ill lift them out with the rod if they're less then two lbs. Over that, and I lip them just to be sure. Flippin' a smallie? I'm not sure what that means but it doesnt sound too good...... Quote
alarcher Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 yea a net does wear away the fishes protective slime coat but a rubber net doesnt I am a Senior Fisheries Technician for the Idaho Department of Fish and Game. I deal with fish in every possible way (from surgery to electro fishing) and nets aren't any worse than handling the fishes body with your hands. The key to the safety of the fish is the less touching the better, oils that are in our hands are actually worse on the "protective slime" than a net. So again just handle the fish (net or hands) as less as possible. Quote
Super User Tin Posted March 25, 2008 Super User Posted March 25, 2008 You forgot one option, flipping. In most smallmouth lakes I fish I'm pitching jigs (Heavy action, 30 pound braid) or dragging football jigs (17 pound fluoro). Even my PB smallie which is just under 5 pounds I flipped in the boat. The inside of a smallies' mouth is harder than that of a largemouth so the odds of ripping a hole in it on the flip is usually not going to happen. Knock on wood I have never lost a fish on the flip. If your going to loose a smallie, it will be one of the times it rockets out of the water 4' and head shakes. The only time I wouldn't flip them is when I have them on light line or on a treble hooed bait, I will grab them behind the head put them in the boat that way. Flipping a 5# smallie in the boat,give me a break.O.K Roland Martin.... Your not catching smallies in R.I close to 5#.Don't try fooling anyone... :'( (close to 5 # means a 3# ) Here's what a 5# smallie looks like.. Who said I fish only fish in RI? Ever heard of Champlain, Sacandaga, or the CT River? Long Pond Harwich throws out some nice smallies too, and it is somewhat close. Plus if you don't believe me, ask Bassectomy, he has caught smallies close to and over 5 pounds in RI. Watchaug and the Pawtuxet River are amazing places. RI state record smallie is 5-15, so I don't see how catching a smallie close to 5 is impossible. :-/ Very nice smallie by the way. Did you flip it? ;D Quote
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