zoom trick worm, berkley 10" powerbait worm

[shootermcbob]

Fishing from the bank, how would you guys fish these two different style worms? Please give details including equipment preferences.

thanks.

[Derek Chance]

10" worm - texas rig, carolina rig, MH casting rod, 14-20 lb flouro (what I use)

trick worm (one of my faves) - weightless like a jerkbait, weightless wacky, the one I use most is on a shakey head.  Floats so tail stands up.  8lb flouro 7ft Med. spinning outfit. (what I use)

[shootermcbob]

Thanks Derek. When you have the 10" worm texas rigged, do you hop it along the bottom, do you lift it and let fall kinda in the same place, or do you slowly drag it along back to you. Please keep in mind I fish from the bank.

[6pointbuck2003]

what lake ya fishing shooter? And i would say exactly what Derek said.

[shootermcbob]

Mostly Tappan lake. Also fish Clendening and Salt Fork.

What about you 6pointbuck2003, do fish any of these same lakes?

[CatBassin]

I also fish from the bank and usually shakey head the trick worms or throw them weedless on top of floating grass pas and twitch across the top, I texas-rig my 10" culprits. Last year I came across a tip that worked pretty good. You push your hook, untied, through the end of a tube, remove the hook, and thread it on your line, then put your weight on and tie your hook on. The put your worm on like usual, push the weight into the tube and slide it down your line like a normal weight. The tail of the worm gives it's normal action and the tentacles of the tubes give some action up front. I fish it by hoping it across the bottom.

[Wayne P.]

Derek, some trick worms may float, but a Zoom Trick worm does not. I use hundreds of them each year and haven't seen one that does.

[Derek Chance]

Zoom Trick worms are considered a "floating" worm.  they may not be 100% buoyant, but they do float to a degree.  This helps them stand tail up when on a shakey head.

As far as how to fish the 10" worm, I do both, hop it back and also drag it.  Try both and let the fish tell you which one to do.  

[Wayne P.]

Derek, the only reason they "seem" to float on a jig head is because the jig has a faster fall rate than the worm.

[Catt]

Try Texas rigging the Trick worm but without a weight & then add a 1 paneling nail to the tail, this will cause the Trick worm to fall horizontal.

Try fishing the 10 Power Worm Texas rigged with a small bullet weight and then speed reel it on the surface

[Derek Chance]

Derek, the only reason they "seem" to float on a jig head is because the jig has a faster fall rate than the worm.

Do a google search for Zoom Trick Worm.  

[6pointbuck2003]

I mostly fish portage lakes. But my Mom dad and I go to salt fork every summer for a few days. I dont have much luck there lol. Tappen is really starting to grow on me. Try throwing a DT4 dround the rip rap along 250. A buddie and i were fishing out of my boat 2 weekends ago. Landed some fish on them biggest was around 3 lbs. Also try fishing some green pumpkin or pumpkinseed tubes along the rip rap also.

[mase088]

Derek, regardless if the trick worm is considered a floating worm, it does not float. If dropped into water it will fall to the bottom. Add the weight of a hook and it definitely sinks.

[shootermcbob]

Thanks to everyone for all the great tips. 6pointbuck2003, I like Tappan lake. It is 20 minutes from my house, and I usually catch at least a couple fish when I go. I have had luck fishing a rapala dt6 around the rip rap off 250. And, I too never have any luck at Salt Fork.

Again thanks to all and if anyone has more advice, always willing to learn.

[shadyhaven]

i too fish from a few banks and the trick worm is one of my go-tos. and yes it does float. i wanted to see the shakey action before i threw it, so i rigged it and put it in a bucket. it stood on the bottom, tail "floating" to the top. try this with a senko and you will see the difference. the senko will weigh down the jig and lay on the bottom. you tube has an excellent demonstration. just type in zoom trick worm.

[.ghoti.]

Wayne, you and I seem both be buying some "faulty" trick worms. I've never seen one float either.

Observe, if you please, the power of marketing. ;D ;D ;D

[mase088]

Haha, faulty trick worms for me too I guess. We should contact Zoom so they can recall all of these bags of worms we are getting. :

[J Francho]

Zoom Trick Worms = sink slowly.

[Wayne P.]

Here is evidence that refutes the "floating worm" hype.

I dropped each Zoom Trick worm in one at a time and waited about 15 seconds between worms. I stirred them up three times with 5 minutes between stirs. This picture is about 10 minutes later giving them time to migrate to the surface. If you notice the orange color one, it is not a Zoom, but an Original Danny Joe's "Floating" worm. The "Floating" word with quotation marks as I typed it is exactly how it is on the package.

At no point during the test did any of them exhibit the tendency to float. Some of them had a slower sink rate than the others during the stirring process.

The fluid in the container is real water, and not some miracle fluid that overcomes floating objects.

[Wayne P.]

Another view. There are nine different color worms.

[shootermcbob]

Thanks for the demonstration Wayne. I did not know there were that many different color of trick worms. How do you do with the Lemon colored one? Again, thanks to all for the tips.

[Wayne P.]

I bought the lemon shad color (one of the colors is just Yellow) because a member of a bass club I used to be in recommended it for the super clear lake we were fishing in early Spring. He won the tournament and I came in second only using that color. I have since used it with success and over time have found that any color works just as well as any other. I bought all those colors plus about 10 more just to prove a point to those fishing with me that think color makes a difference. I'll catch a few on one color and if the other person is not catching any and wants to try it, I give them that color and use another. I usually still catch more than they do as it's the presentation plus an accurate cast, not the color, that produces the results.

As far a the number of colors available, most dealers like Bass Pro do not stock all of them. The Zoom catalog has most of them listed, but there are some called "Special Run" colors that are not always listed. The moccasin blue is a special run color that I use a lot because of its high flake content that makes it real soft for weedless wacky rigging.

The lemon shad color one is at the bottom of the picture and is the really light yellow one below the solid yellow.

[TrippyJai]

Derek, regardless if the trick worm is considered a floating worm, it does not float. If dropped into water it will fall to the bottom. Add the weight of a hook and it definitely sinks.

x2 drop it in water and watch it sink. anything with salt impregnated will sink.

[shootermcbob]

Thanks for all the great tips. Can't wait to get back out there and try them.

[Captain Obvious]

The zoom trick worm does float without a hook, I just filled a bathroom sink to find out. But I also found out why it seems that it doesn't float. If you just take a trick worm and drop it into the water then it won't float because as soon as the worm's body goes under water it starts to sink. But if you use two hands and gentle place it on top of the water then the worm will float. It also floats on a shaky head as long as you Texas rig it instead of rigging it with the hook exposed like a grub

If you don't believe me fill a sink and try it for yourselves, remember gentle place the worm on top of the water

And if this fails, we can then assume that it will only works for guys named Derek, because my name is Derek and it works for me  ;D