JamesH Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Well this is good for strike king any way, it like hitting the lottery for them. Who would buy there poorly made hard baits other wise. Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 25, 2011 Super User Posted February 25, 2011 Who would buy there poorly made hard baits other wise. I wouldn 't swim those waters, there 's a bunch of examples of "poorly" made baits that work very well, for example: Bill Lewis ' Rat L-Trap, Mann 's Strectch series ( previously Go To ), Heddon 's Bayou Boogie and many others look like crap yet still they work. We can 't judge a book by it 's cover. Quote
fishinghusker Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 i ain't tryin to stop you omg?!?! do i win?!?! I know you're not, and I'm not trying to sound like I want to argue, I'd rather just discuss. Quote
Super User Sam Posted February 25, 2011 Super User Posted February 25, 2011 So one day we can win the Classic!!! Quote
Blue Streak Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Well square bills are good baits, have been for decades, some deflect better than others and that is what makes them better in my opinion. As far as a winning bait goes it is just what worked for that guy on that day in that place. Does not mean it is magic and will do the same for you. Â We are all bait collectors as well as fisherman and if you don't admit that you are in denial. Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 I'll have to admit that I bought my first Red Eye Shad after the classic last year. I was just starting to rebuild my bait collection and was looking to try something other than the couple of Super Spots that I had been using. I caught some nice fish on that first RES and ordered some more. I ended up catching 164 fish on the RES last season, and have already caught 12 fish on the RES this season including a 4.40 lb LMB. So, it was a good choice for me. It's now my standard lipless crank. I have some others, and like the Yo-Zuri bait as well, but the RES seems to be a good balance of quality, performance, and cost. As for the original question - one answer might be that some anglers may not be looking for a "magic bait"...but they may be more comfortable in buying a bait that has proven to be (in one set of conditions) a successful bait. There are hundreds (thousands) of baits out there and some beginning or just occasional anglers may just flat not know what to buy. They may be thinking that if it's good enough for the champ, then......... Quote
K.Fox Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Consumers are the real fish.. I have been looking online to add to my collection and I am amazed at how life like these lures are becoming. Koppers, Spro, Jackell to name a few have gotten their lures looking like mirror images of prey. I actually thought long and hard about paying $20.00 for one lure. In the end I didn't bite.. A bass is a bass. A lure is a lure and the consumer is a sucker... O yeah and Vandam is from another planet..... Quote
bait__Monkey Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 hey u guys! u ben doin great with al the nu stuff, yes? dis wekend we gots the big sale and a bunch of mi pro buddies putin on a show at bps. u goin, yes? i'l be at al them shows, i hep u pickup sum stuff. first lets find dat kvd guy, giv him big hug. u know, i pick al his lurs 4 him. i pick sum 4 u 2! how much we goin spend? i think you ned mor money. we stop by de bank an get a loan. how much u think dat house worth? Quote
bladeslinger Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Kind of a bummer for me, the Lucky Craft RC 1.5 has been one of my go to lures these past few years, and am guessing the waters are going to be filled with the new SK 1.5's. Quote
BassThumb Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 It's because the lure is given as much credit as the angler who tossed it. It's good marketing, it's easier to sell a lure than it is to sell other KVD-themed merchandise. I don't blame the lure companies for doing it. It's especially funny since oftentimes the lure that is credited is not the lure that was used. But it does benefit us consumers if we wait for the overstock sales that are soon to come when the hype dies down, like last falls blowout of the Red Eye Shad. I imagine I'll be loading up on $2 squarebills come November. Quote
Super User CWB Posted February 27, 2011 Super User Posted February 27, 2011 Must be something to it when the winner sets a record using it and the #2 finisher reluctantly admits using it. I bought some before the Classic and just bought some more on sale at BPS. Haven't tried them yet but for the price and the results, pretty good bargain. Hooks on the baits I have seem fine. Sticky sharp nickel, not standard bronze like most other S.K. cranks. Also did quite well with the Red Eye Shad before it was the winning Classic bait. if I recall, the top 3 finishers all were using rattle baits in the same area but KVD won it with the Red Eye. Just might be something to the hype. I know KVD could win using a clothespin but the rest of those guys aren't slouches. Of course the Classic winning baits are going to fly off the shelves. The catch is you still have to present them in the correct manner at the correct time in the correct location to be successful. Quote
Pa Angler Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 At least KVD's lures are only $5 to $6 not like LC guys or Sebile guys who get their lures for free and think there's a need for us to buck up $15 to $35 just beacaues they use them. Tight Lines Pa Angler Quote
basser247 Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Baits aren't made to catch fish there made to catch fisherman Quote
CAdeltaLipRipper Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Im guilty now hahaha bought some KVD 1.5s and 2.5s today.So did my dad.They look pretty sexy i must say Quote
BadBassWV Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 I find this kind of funny that it sounds like people aren't buying the lures because he won the classic. I've read alot of threads where people ask "What should I use" Everyone chimes in with there favorite baits that catch fish. Why not take the advice of a Pro? We no his baits catch fish. The people that are saying they didn't fall for it are the ones that probably bought them all out. Everybody uses baits that someone has told them catch fish or have seen someone use to catch fish. Why would you not try them out? Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted February 28, 2011 Super User Posted February 28, 2011 I find this kind of funny that it sounds like people aren't buying the lures because he won the classic. I've read alot of threads where people ask "What should I use" Everyone chimes in with there favorite baits that catch fish. Why not take the advice of a Pro? We no his baits catch fish. The people that are saying they didn't fall for it are the ones that probably bought them all out. Everybody uses baits that someone has told them catch fish or have seen someone use to catch fish. Why would you not try them out? Why would people lie about not buying a lure ? Just curious. Quote
CJ Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 I haven't read all the replies in this thread so I hope I'm not repeating this. I'm sure the new KVD crankbaits are good for what they're made to do. I did notice that the young guy from the Federation was throwing one of my favorites, a Bandit 100. He caught some giants too. Quote
0119 Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Does the KVD crankbaits have a tighter wiggle than the usual fat crankbait, I mean its not a flat sided crank right? Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted March 1, 2011 Super User Posted March 1, 2011 the red eye shad that won last years classic is a bait that straight out catches fish , period Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted March 1, 2011 Super User Posted March 1, 2011 the red eye shad that won last years classic is a bait that straight out catches fish , period Yup. I posted up in reply #56 that I did indeed buy my first RES because of last year's classic. I bought more because I caught a bunch of fish on the first one. The RES just seems to be in a sweet spot with a good balance of quality, performance, and cost. Quote
IntroC Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 I'll have to admit that I bought my first Red Eye Shad after the classic last year. I was just starting to rebuild my bait collection and was looking to try something other than the couple of Super Spots that I had been using. I caught some nice fish on that first RES and ordered some more. I ended up catching 164 fish on the RES last season, and have already caught 12 fish on the RES this season including a 4.40 lb LMB. So, it was a good choice for me. It's now my standard lipless crank. I have some others, and like the Yo-Zuri bait as well, but the RES seems to be a good balance of quality, performance, and cost. As for the original question - one answer might be that some anglers may not be looking for a "magic bait"...but they may be more comfortable in buying a bait that has proven to be (in one set of conditions) a successful bait. There are hundreds (thousands) of baits out there and some beginning or just occasional anglers may just flat not know what to buy. They may be thinking that if it's good enough for the champ, then......... I think the highlighted part says it all. If this bait won the classic it is obviously proven. If KVD uses it and is winning tourneys with it you know it works. So if your looking for cranks why not buy one or ten? I bought some red eye shads last year after the classic not really because he won with that lure but it did get me to take a closer look at it and read the reveiws when I was looking to add some more lipless cranks to my arsenal. The reveiws were outstanding and the price is right so I bought a couple and they have become my favorite lipless crank. Same for SK series 5 & 6 cranks. You see KVD winning tourneys with these lures and pretty soon all the pros are throwing them. Hell yeah I'm gonna go buy some. I'm glad I have because they too have caught me a ton of fish and are now a favorite. Its about knowing these luers are proven fish catchers. Look at the opposite of the spectrum should we be running out there buying lures that the losers are using? Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted March 3, 2011 Super User Posted March 3, 2011 For the same reason people buy Jeeter's glove, Federer's raquet, Crosby's stick......etc etc...... baaaaaahhhhhh!,....baaaaaahhhhh!.... Now where did that Bo Peeep chick go? I'll go check the Quantum isle.... Quote
jeremyt Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 I have been guilty of this in the past. This year not so much. I came to the realization that, 1. These guys spend a heck of a lot more time on the water than I would ever be able to. and 2. They are working directly with the manufacturers and I am almost posotive that while the baits they are throwing may have the same name ; they are more than likely 100% customized to the particular angler's desires. That being said if you buy them and have confidence in them, more power to you. Quote
Super User CWB Posted March 3, 2011 Super User Posted March 3, 2011 I have been guilty of this in the past. This year not so much. I came to the realization that, 1. These guys spend a heck of a lot more time on the water than I would ever be able to. and 2. They are working directly with the manufacturers and I am almost posotive that while the baits they are throwing may have the same name ; they are more than likely 100% customized to the particular angler's desires. That being said if you buy them and have confidence in them, more power to you. Not sure what you mean by customized. Sure, alot of guys swap out the hooks but I've found the factory hooks on these are plenty sharp and strong. Special paint maybe? Doubt it. I don't think Aaron Martens, the # 2 finisher, did anything special to his baits. He started throwing these after seeing KVD's success and he is not sponsored by Strike King. I do know KVD swaps out the hooks. Not sure about anyone else. Ain't a whole lot you can do to this bait. Could they have just gotten it right and the production models simply work great? Red Eye Shad comes to mind. P.S. Never say almost positive. You either have proof and are 100% positive or you are just assuming due to rumors. And we've all seen what happens when you "assume". Quote
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