Fish Chris Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 For a long time, I used braid, tied straight to my hook or lure. I finally switched to using a fluorocarbon or straight mono leader.... But NOT, because of the visibility factor to the fish. My #1 and 2 reasons for the mono leader, is that mono / fluoro are more abrasion resistant around sharp rocks, and bass teeth, and also, because a few feet of mono gives you just a little bit of a shock absorber, when used in conjunction with virtually zero stretch braid. BTW, nearly all of the waters I fish for bass are very clear, and highly pressured, yet I saw almost no difference in my amount of bites, after going from straight braid, to a mono / fluoro leader. Of course I will still always use a mono leader, but again, not because of visibility issues. Peace, Fish Quote
Fish Chris Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 For a long time, I used braid, tied straight to my hook or lure. I finally switched to using a fluorocarbon or straight mono leader.... But NOT, because of the visibility factor to the fish. My #1 and 2 reasons for the mono leader, is that mono / fluoro are more abrasion resistant around sharp rocks, and bass teeth, and also, because a few feet of mono gives you just a little bit of a shock absorber, when used in conjunction with virtually zero stretch braid. BTW, nearly all of the waters I fish for bass are very clear, and highly pressured, yet I saw almost no difference in my amount of bites, after going from straight braid, to a mono / fluoro leader. Of course I will still always use a mono leader, but again, not because of visibility issues. Peace, Fish Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 12, 2010 Super User Posted December 12, 2010 LMB in clear water can be line shy, it's more like the heavier line affects the lure or bait movement, more than the line diameter or weight. Like Chris, I fish in extremely clear water deep structured reservoirs and had times where you had to down size line, lure and hook size to get bit. On those same lakes I have caught giant bass using both 12 to 14 lb mono or FC line on jigs and 20 to 25 lb mono on swimbaits. You can't expect to get bit using 12 lb mono or FC fishing with a 3" live shad or worm and 1/0 hook; down size to 6 lb and size 4 light wire hook and your in business. WRB Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 12, 2010 Super User Posted December 12, 2010 LMB in clear water can be line shy, it's more like the heavier line affects the lure or bait movement, more than the line diameter or weight. Like Chris, I fish in extremely clear water deep structured reservoirs and had times where you had to down size line, lure and hook size to get bit. On those same lakes I have caught giant bass using both 12 to 14 lb mono or FC line on jigs and 20 to 25 lb mono on swimbaits. You can't expect to get bit using 12 lb mono or FC fishing with a 3" live shad or worm and 1/0 hook; down size to 6 lb and size 4 light wire hook and your in business. WRB Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 12, 2010 Super User Posted December 12, 2010 LMB in clear water can be line shy, it's more like the heavier line affects the lure or bait movement, more than the line diameter or weight. Like Chris, I fish in extremely clear water deep structured reservoirs and had times where you had to down size line, lure and hook size to get bit. On those same lakes I have caught giant bass using both 12 to 14 lb mono or FC line on jigs and 20 to 25 lb mono on swimbaits. You can't expect to get bit using 12 lb mono or FC fishing with a 3" live shad or worm and 1/0 hook; down size to 6 lb and size 4 light wire hook and your in business. WRB Quote
brushhoggin Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 i'm thankful i fish in stained mudholes exclusively. Quote
brushhoggin Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 i'm thankful i fish in stained mudholes exclusively. Quote
brushhoggin Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 i'm thankful i fish in stained mudholes exclusively. Quote
Fish Chris Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 Ya' know, people always seem to be concerned that the fish might be shy of their line...... Forget about all that ! I'll tell you what fish are shy of !!!!! Read this twice.... maybe 3 X's if neccessary... What they are shy of is "YOU AND YOUR BOAT" !!!! Either stop a long ways from where you know the fish to be, and make long casts..... or, beach that pretty, shiny boat, and aproach the fish from the shore. Whatever you do, don't "trap" the fish between your boat, and the shore ! Nothing makes a fish more nervous, or lock it's jaws tighter ! Worry about the stuff worth worrying about. Peace, Fish Quote
Fish Chris Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 Ya' know, people always seem to be concerned that the fish might be shy of their line...... Forget about all that ! I'll tell you what fish are shy of !!!!! Read this twice.... maybe 3 X's if neccessary... What they are shy of is "YOU AND YOUR BOAT" !!!! Either stop a long ways from where you know the fish to be, and make long casts..... or, beach that pretty, shiny boat, and aproach the fish from the shore. Whatever you do, don't "trap" the fish between your boat, and the shore ! Nothing makes a fish more nervous, or lock it's jaws tighter ! Worry about the stuff worth worrying about. Peace, Fish Quote
Fish Chris Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 Ya' know, people always seem to be concerned that the fish might be shy of their line...... Forget about all that ! I'll tell you what fish are shy of !!!!! Read this twice.... maybe 3 X's if neccessary... What they are shy of is "YOU AND YOUR BOAT" !!!! Either stop a long ways from where you know the fish to be, and make long casts..... or, beach that pretty, shiny boat, and aproach the fish from the shore. Whatever you do, don't "trap" the fish between your boat, and the shore ! Nothing makes a fish more nervous, or lock it's jaws tighter ! Worry about the stuff worth worrying about. Peace, Fish Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 The top 2 reasons for using a leader are for line shy bass & for breakage when hung. I think the line shy bass theory solely depends on the body of water I fish a lot of clear southern lakes with 1,000s miles of vegetation, brush, & timber. In these bodies of water a bass can not tell braided line from a strand of Hydrilla, a Buck brush limb, or Willow tree branches. Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 The top 2 reasons for using a leader are for line shy bass & for breakage when hung. I think the line shy bass theory solely depends on the body of water I fish a lot of clear southern lakes with 1,000s miles of vegetation, brush, & timber. In these bodies of water a bass can not tell braided line from a strand of Hydrilla, a Buck brush limb, or Willow tree branches. Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 The top 2 reasons for using a leader are for line shy bass & for breakage when hung. I think the line shy bass theory solely depends on the body of water I fish a lot of clear southern lakes with 1,000s miles of vegetation, brush, & timber. In these bodies of water a bass can not tell braided line from a strand of Hydrilla, a Buck brush limb, or Willow tree branches. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 The top one reason for using a leader here is zebra mussels. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 The top one reason for using a leader here is zebra mussels. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 The top one reason for using a leader here is zebra mussels. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 The top one reason for using a leader here is zebra mussels. +1 unfortunately the Colorado river lakes have zebra's cousin the quagga mussel that cuts braid like a hot knife through butter. WRB Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 The top one reason for using a leader here is zebra mussels. +1 unfortunately the Colorado river lakes have zebra's cousin the quagga mussel that cuts braid like a hot knife through butter. WRB Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 The top one reason for using a leader here is zebra mussels. +1 unfortunately the Colorado river lakes have zebra's cousin the quagga mussel that cuts braid like a hot knife through butter. WRB Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 There is also barnacles in brackish tidal waters that will cut the superlines so a hard mono or fluorocarbon leader is a must. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 There is also barnacles in brackish tidal waters that will cut the superlines so a hard mono or fluorocarbon leader is a must. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 There is also barnacles in brackish tidal waters that will cut the superlines so a hard mono or fluorocarbon leader is a must. Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 It depends a lot on many factors, I fish several gin crystal clear lakes where you can see the bottom 30 ft down, that 's really clear and there are days that fish are line/lure/sound/sneeze/cough shy and there are days you can fish with a rope and they won 't bother. Needless to say that what plays a huge role on how the fish behave is wind, when there 's no wind and the lake looks glass smooth is when the fish are more inclined to be line/lure/sound/sneeze/cough shy. Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 13, 2010 Super User Posted December 13, 2010 It depends a lot on many factors, I fish several gin crystal clear lakes where you can see the bottom 30 ft down, that 's really clear and there are days that fish are line/lure/sound/sneeze/cough shy and there are days you can fish with a rope and they won 't bother. Needless to say that what plays a huge role on how the fish behave is wind, when there 's no wind and the lake looks glass smooth is when the fish are more inclined to be line/lure/sound/sneeze/cough shy. Quote
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