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it will be broken again. but this time in america where it belongs.

Why does it belong here ??????????

I didn't get it either until I saw that he was from Cali  ;D

With that being said, I think that there are going to be many, many more monster bass coming out of Japan in the next few years.  You also can't deny them the rights of being the front runner for breaking the WR seeing that they already own it  :)

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that is unreal! and to think that at one time that thing was just a little fry 1/2" long flitting around in the grass on the shore...

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funny to see this picture a kid in my class just used it in his presentation friday, according to him this angler trained the bass for 6 months by feeding them very heavily only as he revved his engine so the bass would come screaming in as he revved the engine looking to feed.....

don't know where he got this information from or if it is definitely true but i thought i would mention it...not taking anything away from such a majestic fish just unfortunate how it was caught if this is true

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funny to see this picture a kid in my class just used it in his presentation friday, according to him this angler trained the bass for 6 months by feeding them very heavily only as he revved his engine so the bass would come screaming in as he revved the engine looking to feed.....

don't know where he got this information from or if it is definitely true but i thought i would mention it...not taking anything away from such a majestic fish just unfortunate how it was caught if this is true

RUMORS ARE A DIME A DOZEN.

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bass-brat your right it could just be a rumor however at such a high level college class it would be quite a risk to fabricate such information on how animals can be trained to respond to human behavior

not saying its definitely true though just thought i would post it in case anyone else had any information on this or at least a story as to how the fish was truly caught

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I don't think it's a rumor or misinformation.  I also read that Kurita slapped the water and revved his engine for a period of time before landing his 22 pounder.  I did read he does this before feeding/then fishing in areas that he knows holds big fish.  I have read some guys in California stating that bass know when the trout stocking trucks come in and you can see large bass "staging" just outside the dumping area.

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Slapping the water is a technique that's been around for ages...I hear the old timers along the river have their favorite branches and worn out oars for just that reason...to trigger a feeding frenzy.

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Nice! I need a vacation. Now I know which direction to go.  :o

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You guys are delusional. Not counting Dottie its been about 20 years since Ca produced another 20.

This 20 was caught in a differnt lake then Biwa. There have been small packs of fish spotted in both lakes with multiple fish in the 20+lbs and Kurita has said he has seen much bigger fish then his 22.5.

Japan will break its own record.

Trust me guys I'm out here on the front lines trying to bring the record back but the reality is Japan actualy has know fish swimming around right now. I know of a few lakes that have produced 18-19lbers in the last few years but I dont know of any this year. I am sure there are a couple around that may be a bit over 20 but Kurita has seen a fish he thinks could go 30.

We need another Dottie

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New melones just had an 18 pounder. And i think California can pull it off  8-)i mean come on 20 of the top 25 largemouth ever caught have been caught out of California

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Unfortunately with all the water wars and environmentalist stopping alot of lakes from getting trout plants I think California is passed it hay day. I personally have no problem with the record being from japan. I think it's better than Texas having the record with a man made bass. I just have a problem with the share lunker program manipulating nature. Atleast in japan their natural fish. Just my opinion.

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Unfortunately with all the water wars and environmentalist stopping alot of lakes from getting trout plants I think California is passed it hay day. I personally have no problem with the record being from japan. I think it's better than Texas having the record with a man made bass. I just have a problem with the share lunker program manipulating nature. Atleast in japan their natural fish. Just my opinion.

Some would say trout fed bass is manipulation. ;) The share lunker program in Texas seems like a good way to maximize growth potential IMHO.

It seems Japan has the edge right now when it comes to world class bass. While I'm happy for Japan I'd rather have the record come from US waters in the same way I wanted the US team to win gold in the Olympic hockey finals. Who knows what the future will bring?

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I understand your point but California is not messing with the genetics of the fish. If Texas ever gets the record to me it would be a little bit home grown if you get my drift. In most cases any Florida strain bass out of Florida is manipulation on our part. Bass are not native to alot of places including japan and California. Plus it's not like were hand feeding our fish there just being bass eating big protein meals. Texas is just another porter hall project to me.  8-)

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If Texas were to grow a record then I would consider it legit. As long as it came from a public lake.

What they are doing in TX is actualy hurting their chances now. They remove most of the bass that have the potential to get there. If they stopped the SAL then their top end weights would go up.

CA, especialy so Cal still has the potential but Japan currently has several giant bass swimming around right now with guys targeting them. Japan will have more in the top 20 in the next couple years. We just need another freak like Dottie to come around. We have 18's and 19's but thats still a ways away from a 22. and it could get much harder if Japan kicks out a 25+

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If Texas were to grow a record then I would consider it legit. As long as it came from a public lake.

What they are doing in TX is actualy hurting their chances now. They remove most of the bass that have the potential to get there. If they stopped the SAL then their top end weights would go up.

CA, especialy so Cal still has the potential but Japan currently has several giant bass swimming around right now with guys targeting them. Japan will have more in the top 20 in the next couple years. We just need another freak like Dottie to come around. We have 18's and 19's but thats still a ways away from a 22. and it could get much harder if Japan kicks out a 25+

I couldn't agree with you more. I have 2 friends that work 1st hand in the SAL program for Texas Parks & Wildlife & they say the same thing.

Fishinflip415 I understand your point but you actually couldn't be further from the truth about our "genetically altered" fish. From what they both have said, on separate occasions, is that the fry bread from a SAL bass do not grow any faster or get any larger then just a "normal" fry. Of the many many years they have been testing, they have yet to come to the conclusion that genetically superior bass produce genetically superior bass. One has been with the program since 1994 & the other has been with the program since 2006. Secondly there are many SAL bass that don't even make it alive from one of the few holding stations in TX to Athens TX where the tests & breeding take place. If for some strange reason a WR bass is caught out of Texas, the chances of it being a product of the SAL program are as slim to none as chances can get.

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funny to see this picture a kid in my class just used it in his presentation friday, according to him this angler trained the bass for 6 months by feeding them very heavily only as he revved his engine so the bass would come screaming in as he revved the engine looking to feed.....

don't know where he got this information from or if it is definitely true but i thought i would mention it...not taking anything away from such a majestic fish just unfortunate how it was caught if this is true

RUMORS ARE A DIME A DOZEN.

That was in the Manabu Kurita interview and article in the Jan 2010 issue of Bassmaster. It's a really good article, one of my favorites. The guy definitely is a true big bass hunter.

He was releasing live Ayu, allegedly worth $40,000 over the course of a year, and conditioning bass to become agitated and feed by revving the engine and slapping the water before throwing out bluegills with the dorsal fins removed, massive wooden swimbaits, and 13" wacky rigs.

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