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there is only being in the right place at the right time with the right bait but there is no say what that perfect bait is so i say just fish and with a little bit of luck you might catch a bigger bass and just be happy you got one that big

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Lunker Punkers, Huddleston Deluxe ROF12, Weedslingers,

Big Baits, For bottom bouncing I use HUDS, for topwater i use Lunker Punkers, for rip baits I use Triple Trouts and weedless weed slingers by black dog.

I have no idea where your fishing but thats a genral starter point for what I use. Hope this helps...

Big baits are more about commiting to them then they are having a variety! That was hard for me to learn! I wanted one for every occasion like crankbaits...Dont do that. Find what works and stick to it!

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First of all there i no technique proven to catch bigger fish.  It seems like George Perry bass and Manabu Kurita bass were both caught off live bait.  So with that said you need to throw swimbaits if catching with a lure is important to. 

Second your body of water needs to be able hold and breed big bass. If it doesn't you won't catch them because they don't exist, and they may not get any bigger than your 9 pounder until you give them more time to grow.

Third: Right time right place right bait, as mentioned before. 

You have the opportunity to catch big bass, but nothing you do will entice big bass only.   Last tournament I fished, big fish was caught on a 5 inch Senko.  So just goes to show it is about timing and bait selection.

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For big bass, I like

10" worms

8-9" lizards

suspending swimbaits that immitate bluegill

good sized suspending jerkbaits

med-large crankbaits

spinnerbaits

This is just from my personal experience but I hope it helps.

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ahh, you have a taste now for the big uns....me too, caught my first 5+ lber and I have undertaken a plan of action that will be solely trophy hunting (well at least to beat my PB anyway).

I am taking the big baits route as matt has alluded to - I ordered my first two hudds and fished them for 4 hours yesterday and didnt get a bite after fishing about 15 points and a shallow flat - wife got sick and went home - anyway, I am in my infancy on the topic of big baits - I have heard that wake baits such as the lunker plunker, MS Slammer, or Wake Jr. and good starter baits for newB big bait people - I havent bought one yet - Some folks have suggested for me hudds to start with and I am gonna stick with that for some time (although I am starting with 6 inch for now).  I want a lunker plunker next to try in addition to my hudds - I hear if you have striper in your waters as well they love this lure (and the hudd for that matter).

Anyway, I wont give you much advice really as I am just picking up on this tactic - I think I may be the only person on my local waters who even know what a huddleston bait is, heh heh, we will see if that proves as genius or stupid, heh heh.

As far as catching big bass as "lucky" - I think that is a self defeating mindset - if you set out to do it and committ to catching bigger fish I believe you can achieve it - others do it successfully fairly consistently, I believe if someone else can do it so can I (at least that is what I am going to keep telling myself to keep me going). 

From my research online and talking with some folks in mr region online about big baits - there will be a steep learning curve - possibly some tough days ahead - but with time and dedication I hope to like you hook a 9 lber or just in general catch larger fish with more regularity.

Good luck in your 9 lb quest - hopefully we will get there (or at least start consistently beating our PB's). Again, I am a total newB at this so my comments are only really to add to your post and stimulate some ideas and thinking perhaps.

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First of all there i no technique proven to catch bigger fish. It seems like George Perry bass and Manabu Kurita bass were both caught off live bait. So with that said you need to throw swimbaits if catching with a lure is important to.

Second your body of water needs to be able hold and breed big bass. If it doesn't you won't catch them because they don't exist, and they may not get any bigger than your 9 pounder until you give them more time to grow.

Third: Right time right place right bait, as mentioned before.

You have the opportunity to catch big bass, but nothing you do will entice big bass only. Last tournament I fished, big fish was caught on a 5 inch Senko. So just goes to show it is about timing and bait selection.

I think Perry's record was caught on a "creek chub fintail shiner" - an artifical I believe - floating wood style bait I recall - could be wrong though.

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First of all there i no technique proven to catch bigger fish. It seems like George Perry bass and Manabu Kurita bass were both caught off live bait. So with that said you need to throw swimbaits if catching with a lure is important to.

Second your body of water needs to be able hold and breed big bass. If it doesn't you won't catch them because they don't exist, and they may not get any bigger than your 9 pounder until you give them more time to grow.

Third: Right time right place right bait, as mentioned before.

You have the opportunity to catch big bass, but nothing you do will entice big bass only. Last tournament I fished, big fish was caught on a 5 inch Senko. So just goes to show it is about timing and bait selection.

I think Perry's record was caught on a "creek chub fintail shiner" - an artifical I believe - floating wood style bait I recall - could be wrong though.

Ah I stand correct, of course a native of Alabama would know. It looks like a swimbait, first of its kind LOL

"Creek Chub Bait Co. of Garrett, Ind., who manufactured the Fintail Shiner lure"

creekchubfintail.JPG

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yea im wanting to catch a bigger bass ive been looking at some different lures i had a big swimbait about 10'' long but was too heavy it hit the water like a baseball size rock.ill look in to some of the ones u listed

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Alright, here's several tips for you;

Fish differently than the crowd. If you fish like they do, you will only catch what they catch. The crowd catches mostly dinks, so don't follow them.

Here's a prime example. On nearly every trip I make, I see guys (often in big, flashy bass boats) just blindly fishing down the shore, covering water.... much of it worthless, or at least "small fish" water. Why do they waste their time like this ?

Get out and find BIG bass with your own two eyes ! It helps if you have clear water, but even in murkier water, big bass will often follow big swimbaits, or especially, loud obnoxious top waters, like a 9" MS Slammer. ALWAYS wear your polarized glasses, and look for followers on every cast !

All you have to do is see them. That's 3/4's of the battle. Every time you sight a big fish, make a mental note of it. Put together a big fish rout, in your head. After several trips, definitely after a season, their will be no reason to waste time blindly fishing down banks for 'no fish' or for 'small fish'. Instead, you can just hop from one big fish spot, to another.

Believe me, if your fishing spots that you have sighted big fish in, 90% of your time on the water.... and your throwing big fish baits, like a Hud, you will end up catching some of those monsters you have sighted in the past.

Also, don't ever think.... "Well, I already fished that spot earlier today". "Yea ? So what ! Fish it again, and again ! Big fish don't feed all day. It often only takes them 10 or 15 minutes to catch one big meal, and then they move right back off of the spot, until the next time they are hungry.

Let's put it this way, my big fish rout might only be 6 spots, that takes me 2 hours to go through. That's fine, that means I can fish my entire rout 5 X's in a 10 hour day on the water..... and experience has shown me, that what I did on those spots the first 4 X's, has absolutely no bearing on what I might do on the last stop of the day !

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Enough about big bass routs....

Here's a few more. Most people think they have to be on the water when it's barely light enough to see..... But they often wimp out and leave by 1pm. Cool. Let em'. I start at 10 am, and after my first 3 hours, most of those goofballs are out of my way. So from 1pm until 7 pm, I have the whole lake to myself. And what's more, their is no doubt in my mind, that big bass are easier to catch, when their are not a bunch of big, loud, obnoxious, high per bass boats running around chopping the place up. Apparently, big bass enjoy peace and quiet as much as I do ;)

As for "wanting to do it with artificials only".... I have kind of split feelings on this. One part of me would like to tell you, that being "open minded, to any, and all legal techniques, will give you the best chance at sticking a monster".

But on the other hand, at least your picking the "easier", less challenging way to catch a big bass :) LOL

Here's what I mean by that; I am the first to admit, I love fishing live bait, and I have done it a ton. I certainly have no qualms about it. Yet only 1/3 of my 89 double digit bass have come on live bait, and none of my 7 bass, of 15 lbs or more, have been on live bait. That kind of bums me out a little, as I'd love to catch a 15+ giant on a crawler, and my micro-light :)

Sure, I love live bait fishing, but a guy has to do, what a guy has to do, if he wants to catch giants.

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Fish the places in your area that consistently kick out the kind of fish you want to catch ! One monster fish, is not as important as a whole bunch, of maybe just slightly smaller fish.

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Find out as much as you can about the guys that consistently catch giants in your lakes. Their are usually a few out there. Anybody can get lucky and catch one giant, but the same as with the "big bass lake" thing I mentioned above, you'd be better off following a guy who maybe hasn't caught an 18 lb Lake record..... but who has caught a big, fat number of say 10 to 15 lb'ers.

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Fish a LOT !

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I'm sure I could come up with a lot more.... but this should be enough to soak up for now :)

Anyway, I know theirs a big fat pig out there waiting for you, right now :)

Peace,

Fish

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Fish Chris's comments seems in line with the trophy hunter types (who I am aspiring to become myself).

About a big 10 inch bait and such.....you mentioned the loud splash as a problem.  Well, I am sure there are certain situations that is a problem, but from what I have read and understand is this - 1) you can catch bigger fish on a bigger bait such as a 10 inch trout - others have and are doing it - hudds are well proven so far as I understand, even some guys in the southeast are tossing them as well and doing well.  2) the loud splash...you assume that this is always a bad thing is an absolute....that assumption at times may be right, but you must also consider the possibility that this noise arouses big bass interest at first - gets them to looking and moving in that direction, then eventually hit the bait.  I say dont be afraid of the splash - it may be scaring you more than the fish themselves?

I have been advised by people on this site as well as the BBZ.com forum site to perhaps start with the 6 inch or 8 inch hudds for starters and perhaps a wake bait such as the MS slammer etc...get yourself one good swimbait rod - dont make my initial mistake of buying a long nearly 8 foot flipping/pitching rod - they are too stiff at the tip and dont load up nice for easier tossing of these baits - get a  long swimbait rod with a fast tip and a good backbone - fish chris may give us better advice on setup - my neighbor gave me an old shimano calcutta 200 for starters - you will need a heaftier reel to handle the abuse of big baits I think - there are a number of options out there that I am not yet fully aware of or have saved for yet......

Thanks Fish Chris for the advice - it corroborates the advice I have recieved so far......take care.

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I had the same question on another site about the splash of big baits, particularly in the shallows - the response I got made alot of sense - I will paraphrase:

Splashes are a normal occurrence on a body of water, a bird feeding, a fish jumping etc....it may very well stimulate interest from a nearby fish.....having said that you dont want to land the splash on the head of your target - try and put your cast beyod the target strike zone - the splash may get a fish looking in that directiona and when your presentation gets there - blammo :)

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As they say, : big baits catch big fish : maybe a swim bait, big worm/lizard or a jig. keep in mind that big fish got that way by being smart and not wasting energy etc. Presentation, LOTS of patience, right place, conditions and luck will do it for you

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Here is a few resources that I have read through - perhaps they will help you....

http://www.swimbaitnation.com/articles

The above link has a number of good articles in it - I would check them out.

http://www.huddbaits.com/2010/02/01/big-swimbaits-and-mental-adjustments/

Huddbaits.com has a bunch of decent articles too including this one you may find interesting.

www.bbz.com - check out the videos section as well as articles on this website.

Ok, thats all I have - good luck to you...or to us - lets go get that 7, 8, or 9, or 14, or 22 pounder  ;D ;D ;D

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