World records live VS. artificial????

[Bassnajr]

Just want to get an idea on how members feel. If you feel that there should be seperate bass records for live bait VS. artificial baits vote YES. If not, vote NO.

Thanks,

Alan (bassnajr)

[etommy28]

the biggest is the biggest its that simple.

[bassdoctor88]

No.........To me it doesn't mater what bait you use you still have to land the fish.

[Dan:]

Yes. There is a reason that tournaments don't allow live bait.

[Raul]

I think it would be wiser to make a WR for northern strain LMB and a WR for Florida strain LMB.

A 10-11 pound northern strain is a really big northern, while a 10 pound Florida is barely a "good fish".

[jamarkwe]

I think it would be wiser to make a WR for northern strain LMB and a WR for Florida strain LMB.

A 10-11 pound northern strain is a really big northern, while a 10 pound Florida is barely a "good fish".

I agree 100% with you on this.

I fished in a live bait tournament once and placed 2nd using a spinner bait... 8-)

[SWMIBASSER]

Yes. There is a reason that tournaments don't allow live bait.

I gotta believe that the original reason for not allowing live bait is so that fish that are caught aren't put in a live well to "fatten up" eating a livewell full of bait.

Or worse yet fish getting force fed BIG chubs/shiners to make the fish heavier.

[Turtle.]

Nope. you still have to find it , catch it, and land it.

I personally like Rauls idea of having a WR for northern strain LMB and a WR for Florida strain LMB.

[tnbassfisher]

I voted yes.

I somewhat feel that it takes a little more effort to catch the fish using artificial even after you have found where they are at.

[Glenn]

You guys need to watch Bob Lusk's video on the site to find out what makes a big fish get big. There's a few misconceptions I'm seeing in this thread.

As for the record, what kind of bait or lure you use shouldn't matter, so I voted "no".

[okiefisher8]

nope. as stated above you still gotta find it and catch it

[b.Lee]

what does it matter how it is caught, as long as it is caught

[Eternal Angler]

I marked yes, but I'm still not sure on the topic. I have mixed feelings.

I know you've all been there where you've see fisherman bragging that they're catching fish one after the other on live bait. And you're using artificial.

To me that kind of eats me up inside, I have little respect for these fisherman that brag. It doesn't take much skill to fish with live bait.

On the other hand, world record is a world record. No one should be denied or putting in another category for their winnings.

I guess if I had a choice again, I'd mark no.

[George Welcome]

The misconception that live bait catches more is unreal.

As someone who sees both sides of this coin on a very regular basis let me assure you that live bait doesn't assure size or numbers.

It is far easier to hook a bass on a plastic worm than it is on a live wild shiner. It's easier to get hit with a shiner, but outsmarting the bass and actually catching them is another matter.

As for species difference: what would you do, add a 3rd category for intergrades or ignore them. Just as you have to head south to catch a record marlin so you must to catch a record bass. That's just the way it is.

[Mattlures]

Raul's idea is good but not feasable.

the all tackle world record is just that. ALL TACKLE the biggest ever caught by legal methods.

Hey if somebody were to catch the second or 3rd biggest bass on an artificail he could clam the biggest bass on anartifical. But still not the biggest bass ever.

There is only 1 IGFA all tackle world record foe each species.

[Lund Explorer]

Sorry folks, I voted NO!

If you want to void out a legal catch based on this supposed fact that live bait is cheating, then you need to add a whole lot of other restrictions as well.

First would be that any fish should only come from a public body of water, in the fish's native region, and where no stocking has occurred. There should also be no artificial feeding, or the stocking of prey for the bass to feed on. Finally, no fish caught during a vulnerable time, such as while on a spawning bed should be counted.

Every one of these things allows for a supposed unnatural advantage to a fisherman. Simple logic says that if one thing should be excluded, then all of them should be.

[MALTESE FALCON]

NO!!!

As long as it was caught within the laws of the state, it should not matter. Caught is caught.

                       QUOTE:

"It doesn't take much skill to fish with live bait".

Wanna bet???? Every time someone makes this statement, I just laugh. So many people believe if you put a live shiner in the water, the fish come from miles around to eat it...........not true.

Just my opinion.

Falcon

[roadwarrior]

There is a reason that tournaments don't allow live bait.

Here's a clue: Next time you go to BPS, Cabelas,

Gander Mountain or just about any tackle store,

take a closer look around. You'll find one row of

terminal tackle, a wall of line and several rows

of bags and boxes. The other fifty rows are lures

and soft plastics.

Money makes the world go around. Tournament

fishermen directly and indirectly promote tackle.

That's the "business" side of the sport.

8-)

[Crestliner2008]

IGFA has line class records, why not one for artificial vs. live bait?

[angler1]

Yes. There is a reason that tournaments don't allow live bait.

I agree 100%!

[fishfordollars]

No

You still must make the time and effort to get on the water

Find the fish

Figure out what it takes to make it bite

Land the fish

[I Love BassResource]

No

But anywhere I've ever fished, from a kid till now... it's been much easier for me to catch them on live bait vs. a lure. The whole purpose in using a fake is to attempt to impersonate something that is alive. When you throw the real thing, all you have to do is hold on for the ride.

After locating them of course, which is has to take place regardless of what your throwing.

[Bassnajr]

I did not say live bait was cheating. That was another post. Northern strain VS. Florida strain is a good point and another poll to be had, no doubt.

But.... I can't believe that folks are saying that it is NOT easier to catch bass on live bait VS. artificial lures.....COME ON!!!!! :

[roadwarrior]

Chris Fish has stated that quite often.

Maybe it only applies to double digit

bass. What's he know anyhow?

8-)

[I Love BassResource]

No dis respect to fish Chris, but on countless occasions I can recall reading his posts where his posted pigs were caught on "crawlers". Granted his "biggest" fish may have been caught differently...

Regardless, the man sure does know big fish...