EastMarkME Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 This thread is about like a C & R thread. ...lol Just like off the water- those who can go out to dinner and have a beer or two responsibly can probably do the same on the water. It's like anything else, if you observe the law and use a little common sense, it's very easy to do. Those who go out and get hammered and drink irresponsibly, often do the same on the water. Operating a boat is no more or less dangerous than a car when drinking. If you act responsibly, there is nothing to argue about. For some, that means no drinking and for others a beer or two is not a problem. Thanks, Flechero. I tried to make that point a few pages back but it appears to have fallen on deaf ears. Again, one beer at 5 percent alcohol ( and most are actually a bit less than 5 percent) is six tenths of an ounce of alcohol. The average liver can process about one ounce of alcohol an hour. That means if the liver processes alcohol at a linear rate, the six tenths of an ounce will be gone from your system in 36 minutes. It would appear, from the facts, that drinking one beer, as opposed to four or ten, would be highly unlikely to cause any harm except for the smallest of human beings. Usually, the correct answer, based on the facts, is not at the extremes of the continuum. (The same can be said for political opinion.) Geez...Some folks I agree with. Nothing against 'not' drinking but get over the "people being a holes for having 2 beers during a day of fishing" theory.Thats narrow minded IMO. BTW,I know folks killed by DUI's too so save that argument...but whos getting drunk on 2 beers ? We arent 14 years old. Is everyone that drinks beer the town drunk ? My rule....cant open a beer til a fish comes in the boat. Occasionally Im forced to break it. : Mark Quote
Lynx Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Not to be a #^*hole, but this thread was dead years ago. Crazy trying to bring zombies back to life. Quote
LCpointerKILLA Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 well to bring a good point back to this zombie its usually the wakeboarders who are wasted or wacked out on drugs hurting themselves and their friends on the water. Quote
Daniel My Brother Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 This thread is about like a C & R thread. ...lol Just like off the water- those who can go out to dinner and have a beer or two responsibly can probably do the same on the water. It's like anything else, if you observe the law and use a little common sense, it's very easy to do. Those who go out and get hammered and drink irresponsibly, often do the same on the water. Operating a boat is no more or less dangerous than a car when drinking. If you act responsibly, there is nothing to argue about. For some, that means no drinking and for others a beer or two is not a problem. Thanks, Flechero. I tried to make that point a few pages back but it appears to have fallen on deaf ears. Again, one beer at 5 percent alcohol ( and most are actually a bit less than 5 percent) is six tenths of an ounce of alcohol. The average liver can process about one ounce of alcohol an hour. That means if the liver processes alcohol at a linear rate, the six tenths of an ounce will be gone from your system in 36 minutes. It would appear, from the facts, that drinking one beer, as opposed to four or ten, would be highly unlikely to cause any harm except for the smallest of human beings. On many subjects such as this, there is a spectrum of opinions ranging from an extreme at both ends of the continuum (i.e. One should not drink any beer as opposed to someone who says drinking two six packs is ok.) Usually, the correct answer, based on the facts, is not at the extremes of the continuum. (The same can be said for political opinion.) Your calm, intelligent, and respectful tone will not get anyone's attention. Try using more broad generalizations and typing in ALL CAPS. Multiple exclamation points are also helpful attention getters!!! Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted August 19, 2009 Super User Posted August 19, 2009 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Quote
Fat-G Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Not to be a #^*hole, but this thread was dead years ago. Crazy trying to bring zombies back to life. You commented on the previous page...... Quote
tnhiker44 Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Your calm, intelligent, and respectful tone will not get anyone's attention. Try using more broad generalizations and typing in ALL CAPS. Multiple exclamation points are also helpful attention getters!!! I agree with ya on this post. But I do find it interesting how intolerable some are on here. I think it is a little pretentious for some to play morality police on this subject, as if it is their way or no way. It comes down to free will, be it right or wrong it is still an individuals choice. Far be it for me to attempt to alter your choice in any decision you make. That is called toleration... more people should try that option. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted August 20, 2009 Super User Posted August 20, 2009 Your calm, intelligent, and respectful tone will not get anyone's attention. Try using more broad generalizations and typing in ALL CAPS. Multiple exclamation points are also helpful attention getters!!! I agree with ya on this post. But I do find it interesting how intolerable some are on here. I think it is a little pretentious for some to play morality police on this subject, as if it is their way or no way. It comes down to free will, be it right or wrong it is still an individuals choice. Far be it for me to attempt to alter your choice in any decision you make. That is called toleration... more people should try that option. What if it's Illegal on certain lakes and parks? Should i just turn a blind eye and tolerate somebody breaking the law? :-/ Quote
Super User senile1 Posted August 20, 2009 Super User Posted August 20, 2009 Grimlin stated: What if it's Illegal on certain lakes and parks? Should i just turn a blind eye and tolerate somebody breaking the law? Undecided I believe most of us are talking about drinking on lakes where it is allowed. I don't think anyone is advocating drinking where it is prohibited. However, have you ever driven 5 mph over the speed limit, blocked the left lane of faster traffic, forgotten to use a turn signal when changing lanes, taken a rolling stop, forgotten to wear your seatbelt, etc. I suppose on the rare occasion you do one of these things you want someone to make note of your license plate and turn you in. Some of these things can be just as dangerous, if not more, than ONE FREAKING BEER. I think a little mercy and restraint are called for in some situations. Each to his own. Irene, Irene, Irene, . . . . I sense she is on the horizon. Quote
EastMarkME Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Your calm, intelligent, and respectful tone will not get anyone's attention. Try using more broad generalizations and typing in ALL CAPS. Multiple exclamation points are also helpful attention getters!!! I agree with ya on this post. But I do find it interesting how intolerable some are on here. I think it is a little pretentious for some to play morality police on this subject, as if it is their way or no way. It comes down to free will, be it right or wrong it is still an individuals choice. Far be it for me to attempt to alter your choice in any decision you make. That is called toleration... more people should try that option. What if it's Illegal on certain lakes and parks? Should i just turn a blind eye and tolerate somebody breaking the law? :-/ Your exactly right. If they arent bothering you or out of line...turn a blind eye. Never sensed there were radical morality police here. I was wrong. Fortunately there are alot of rational folks too I see. 8-) Mark Quote
Super User grimlin Posted August 20, 2009 Super User Posted August 20, 2009 senile1,I see what you are saying.But forgetting or making a mistake before acknowledging it is completely different than the subject i am talking about.Hey if it's allowed on the lake,I'm not going to say much.Topic never mentioned rather it was legal or illegal to drink at certain places.Nobody answered that question when i asked it. It took 8 pages before it was said. So thank you for answering. EastMarkME,breaking the law is breaking the law....I try to abide by them.I disagree with you. Frankly because somebody else doing it doesn't give me the right to do it too. That's the way i see it. add that,that's the way i was raised as well.If i see somebody stealing your stuff out of your boat I'll just look the other way? Quote
tutle Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 A guy kind of stumbled as he came in one night and his wife said,"what do you mean coming in half drunk." He looks at her and says ,"I ran out of money . " Bod -a- boom. They say a drunk gets run over every 15 minutes.He must be a tough son of a gun. Bod-a boom. A drunk took a taxi home .On the way he asked the driver if he had room for a case of beer and a pizza in the front seat.The driver said "sure".The drunk leaned over the seat and barfed. Bod-a-boom boom. Quote
Desultory Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 A guy kind of stumbled as he came in one night and his wife said,"what do you mean coming in half drunk." He looks at her and says ,"I ran out of money . " Bod -a- boom. They say a drunk gets run over every 15 minutes.He must be a tough son of a gun. Bod-a boom. A drunk took a taxi home .On the way he asked the driver if he had room for a case of beer and a pizza in the front seat.The driver said "sure".The drunk leaned over the seat and barfed. Bod-a-boom boom. I don't care who ya are...that's funny right there. Quote
tnhiker44 Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 grimlin, Just one line in your last post totally sums up my point. Hey if it's allowed on the lake,I'm not going to say much You see... despite the fact that that beer is allowed on a lake you are going to say something, just not 'much'. That is a classic example of you attempting to instill your morals on another person. If you ever see anyone in my boat "stealing my stuff" please leave them alone... it is probably just a buddy of mine removing his stuff. I am not so sure I want you making the determination of who is or who is not a thief. Seriously. Thanx in advance. Quote
EastMarkME Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 senile1,I see what you are saying.But forgetting or making a mistake before acknowledging it is completely different than the subject i am talking about.Hey if it's allowed on the lake,I'm not going to say much.Topic never mentioned rather it was legal or illegal to drink at certain places.Nobody answered that question when i asked it. It took 8 pages before it was said. So thank you for answering. EastMarkME,breaking the law is breaking the law....I try to abide by them.I disagree with you. Frankly because somebody else doing it doesn't give me the right to do it too. That's the way i see it. add that,that's the way i was raised as well.If i see somebody stealing your stuff out of your boat I'll just look the other way? Im not sure if a thief should be looked upon the same as someone enjoying a beer while fishing. ;D It doesnt matter really...I dont do debate forums and this is about fishing. There are many forums out there for folks trying to get everyone to think alike and follow whatever thier individual beliefs are. They rely on creating a 'herd mentality'. You wont find me there. I like the fishing info (and jokes) here better anyway. This topic was an real eye opener for me I gotta say. Lets go catch more and bigger fish now. Mark Quote
Super User senile1 Posted August 20, 2009 Super User Posted August 20, 2009 senile1,I see what you are saying.But forgetting or making a mistake before acknowledging it is completely different than the subject i am talking about.Hey if it's allowed on the lake,I'm not going to say much.Topic never mentioned rather it was legal or illegal to drink at certain places.Nobody answered that question when i asked it. It took 8 pages before it was said. So thank you for answering. EastMarkME,breaking the law is breaking the law....I try to abide by them.I disagree with you. Frankly because somebody else doing it doesn't give me the right to do it too. That's the way i see it. add that,that's the way i was raised as well.If i see somebody stealing your stuff out of your boat I'll just look the other way? I see your point too, Grimlin. There is a difference between breaking the law accidentally and purposely breaking it, though some of those items I mentioned are purposely done by drivers every day. Quote
ABLE2DISABLE1 Posted August 21, 2009 Posted August 21, 2009 If its allowed OK but if it is Abused,REPORT it. Quote
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