NEW world record bass caught lake biawa, japan!!!

[SoFlaBassAddict]

Holy crap, what a beast of a bass.  I would have never guessed that a potential record would have come out of Japan.  Hopefully the fish was caught legit.  If thats the case well done to the angler.

[OK Bass Hunter]

Apologies if this has been posted before, but the bass looks pretty alive in this video.

http://www.another site/docktalk.asp?id=6483

[KYntucky Warmouth]

Apologies if this has been posted before, but the bass looks pretty alive in this video.

http://www.another site/docktalk.asp?id=6483

looks alive to me too....

[Fish Chris]

What video ? Neither of those will play for me...

Anyway, what an absolutley "stacked" fish ! It really has the perfect build.

Which leads me to wonder about something I have not seen asked on any of these 6 pages of replies...... Does that Japanese lake have trout stocked in it ? And if not, what did this bass get so huge on ???

I kind of hope it gets certified, as it would be something we could actually see... a catch with solid proof.... something tangible to shoot for, unlike Perry's fish, which half the bass fishermen don't even believe was real in the first place.

However, I've known about the 2 ounce rule for a long time, and I don't see the IGFA changing a rule, in mid-swing, just to accomadate a new record catch.

Anyway, what a phenominal catch ! Makes my PB look tiny. Oh well..... That's okay > I haven't caught my biggest bass 'yet' ;-)

Peace,

Fish

[5bass]

However, I've known about the 2 ounce rule for a long time, and I don't see the IGFA changing a rule, in mid-swing, just to accomadate a new record catch.

The 2 ounce rule - definition: the dumbest rule ever.

I hope this fish is recognized as the new world record.

[Fish Chris]

the dumbest rule ever

Well maybe.... kind of. But lets just say that their was "no amount of weight" with which a fish needed to be bigger by. So, lets say Perry's fish really was 22lbs 4.00 ounces. Now, say somebody comes along and catches a fish which > on their scale < weighs 22 lbs 4.03 ounces. The fact of the matter is, anybody who knows anything about scales, knows that no two scales are "exactly" alike. And in reality, if you break it down to small enough fractions, no scale in the planet is actually spot on. Just some are a lot closer than others.

All of this said, I don't think such a large "safety margin" of 2 full ounces is really needed.

But I do think its a little late to argue the rules now..... except maybe for the next 22lb 5oz bass that gets caught.

Peace,

Fish

[5bass]

I can see the thought process behind the 2 ounce rule but it still doesnt make it right. Even if they ran the weights out into thousandths (say 22.569), it's more than the existing record (22.4??).

With today's technology, I would guess the scales around today are probably a little more accurate than what they were when Perry weighed his bass. Just because his was supposedly weighed on certified scales, doesn't mean the scales were on. Over half of the people who've seen pics of Perry's fish are wondering if those scales were calibrated on a regular basis.  ;D

I hope this monster is recognized as the new world record, but.....

[T-rig]

As far as I know the fish was caught on a Roman Made Mother Swimbait.

[Mattlures]

The fish was caught on live bait and it is less the 1 ounce bigger the Perry's. Not even a full ounce so I think a tie is reasonable when you talking about a 22lb fish. Now 3/4 of an ounce would be a bigger difference on a bluegill.

[T-rig]

The fish was caught on live bait

Where did you get this info Matt?

[Mattlures]

Here is the post

"Sorry to have kept you waiting on the remaining details of the giant Japan Type 2 Hybrid Largemouth Black Bass.

It is now 11:30 pm, and I have the official info that will be released in tomorrow's news.

Mr. Kurita caught the giant fish as described in my previous posts at Lake Biwa, Shiga Prefecture Japan. Certified weight 10.12 kilos.

Biwako (Biwa Lake) is divided into two large parts--the northern part, which is very clear, rocky and extremely deep, and the southern, or "Nanko"section, which is mostly shallow (less than 30 feet), and surrounded by tulies/reeds. The fish was caught in the Nanko section.

The fish was caught on live bait--specifically a Japanese Koi (carp) on a Deps rod using 25 lb. line.

One thing to note, and we have all experienced this (or worse!) is that as the fish was netted, with a bass hand landing net, the hook pulled loose!

As I mentioned, and will not get into here, it is illegal for most anglers to catch and release bass at Biwako.

That said, Mr. Kurita kept the bass in is livewell, as Mr. Okamura of Deps was contacting the Biwa Lake aquarium, and other research institutes. As I mentioned, due to the difficulties of catch and release, as well as transporting live fish laws and regulations, they did not want to release this info until they were in compliance with all regulations (they were). Being an old, tired girl, the fish soon died in the livewell that evening.

The fish is now properly frozen to preserve the fish, while documents are being reviewed for and submitted to various record keeping agencies.

I just feel fortunate to have been an extremely small link in the info chain, and also fortunate that I could share this will all my friends here on Calfishing."

[Bernie Mac]

...... Does that Japanese lake have trout stocked in it ? And if not, what did this bass get so huge on ???

I found this quote in an article "Lake Biwa is Japan's largest lake and covers more than 259 square miles. It also is 4 million to 5 million years old, one of the 20 oldest lakes in the world. Its crystal-clear water is more than 300 feet deep and is home to Biwako giant catfish, ayu, Biwa trout (salmon) and more than 50 species unique to the fishery."

and here's the video link for you Chris....not in english tho

Now there's a lot of US Military stationed in Japan, so I wonder how many now that there is some "good" Bass Fishing there? :-/ :-?

P.S.

for some reason the link keeps messing up when I post it but it's on *** web site.

[Captain Obvious]

The two ounce rule might not be a stupid as you think.

I don't know when that rule was made but I'm sure it was when the were weighing things in regular scales not digital ones.

So when you think about it could you really tell the difference on a regular scale if a fish was a half an ounce bigger or for that matter maybe a ounce and a half difference? I don't think so.

[J Francho]

Its more likely that the best spring scales up to 20 to 25 lbs. only measured in 2 oz. increments, a la Chatillion. One thing to note, just because its a digital scale doesn't mean its more accurate than a spring scale. Accuracy and resolution are two different things. I have spring scale that is way more accurate in cold temps than the digital, though it only resolves to 1/2 pound increments.

[KYntucky Warmouth]

Pending certification, the Japanese may have taken this record from us, but we have the hotdog eating world record and the mustard yellow belt for one more year  

[Fish Chris]

Hey now, here's a thought;

For years everyone has been contemplating > How much would a new World Record Bass be worth.....

But now the more pertinent question might be; "How much would a tie for the World Record Largemouth Bass be worth" ???  :

Fish

[WRB]

You use whatever scales are available during the time period the bass is caught. I used the 25# lab quality Chatillon scale with 1 oz increments during the 70's to 90's. The problem with a hand held spring scale is parallax, trying to line up the graduations exactly and a live bass not fully cooperating. If you got within an ounce, that was good enough.

If you wanted a more accurate weight it met transporting the bass to a market with a certified scale, the local lakes didn't have certified scales at the lakes I fished. Trying to keep a giant bass alive and well, transporting created problems as time was critical. Bob Crupi fell into that trap with his 22.01 bass, poor documentation and no witness to validate the catch as he released it.

When the Perry bass was caught, it was weighed on a postal scale. The only scales available back in the early 30's with weights over 20 lbs were 100 lb scales with graduations of 1/2 lb. To get a 22 1/4 lb, the scale reader needed to split the 1/2 lb graduations and who will ever know if the scale was accurate. In Perry's defense, no records for fresh water bass existed until the 50's, when his catch was grandfathered into the record books. It is what it is, the established mark to beat. IGFA requires 2 oz greater than the current weight, so there will be a co listed world record, until those records fall.

Tom

[Bassfisher10]

Ok, say the next "world record bass" is caught and weighs 22.6 will it be a three way tie, will it get the solo record or will it just share with this 22.5lber

[WRB]

Japan is not done with record size bass and don't be surprised if the next mark is set around 25 lbs. There is going to be a lot of new pressure focused on lake Biawa, it's not it's first rodeo and is prime for several more giants.

This catch will also regenerate record attempts in Cuba, Mexico and US lakes, but IMO the Japanese lakes have the sleeping giant bass population and it's just had it's wake up call.

Happy 4th, enjoy ther holiday.

Tom

[Eddie Munster]

Anyone else wondering what that wound down the left side of the fish is? Any chance that's a hook mark?  

If it's verified the fish's weight is correct and it was caught legally, congrats to the angler. That thing is a pig.

[InLikeFinz]

I don't think it's a hook mark. Are bass spawning in Japan? I've caught some during the spawn with similar marks and bloody tails.

-jason

[Matt Fly]

  The only scales available back in the early 30's with weights over 20 lbs were 100 lb scales with graduations of 1/2 lb. To get a 22 1/4 lb, the scale reader needed to split the 1/2 lb graduations and who will ever know if the scale was accurate.

 Not true, one of the most common types of scales in the post offices back then came from Toledo Scale Co.     The model mentioned was known as the "postal model" or 789, Patent as early as 1912.

The Toledo Scale Company was making these scales as early as 1912, this scale was called the "lightweight" scale, it could handle packages up to 40 lbs.  

 This model was found to still be in use in 1973 in one US post office.  

Toledo Scale was established in 1900, and today, is know as Mettler Toledo.  Still going strong, we use a few of their scales at various hospitals.     A new born baby that is sick, is monitored closely for weight gain and weight loss, a baby's dosage will be determined by its weight, so accuracy is very critical in my job.

     

[Catt]

The only scales available back in the early 30's with weights over 20 lbs were 100 lb scales with graduations of 1/2 lb. To get a 22 1/4 lb, the scale reader needed to split the 1/2 lb graduations and who will ever know if the scale was accurate.

Not true, one of the most common types of scales in the post offices back then came from Toledo Scale Co. The model mentioned was known as the "postal model" or 789, Patent as early as 1912.

The Toledo Scale Company was making these scales as early as 1912, this scale was called the "lightweight" scale, it could handle packages up to 40 lbs.

This model was found to still be in use in 1973 in one US post office.

Toledo Scale was established in 1900, and today, is know as Mettler Toledo. Still going strong, we use a few of their scales at various hospitals. A new born baby that is sick, is monitored closely for weight gain and weight loss, a baby's dosage will be determined by its weight, so accuracy is very critical in my job.

     

Exactly

It cracks me up when I read total nonsense about processes and procedures used during that time period, the scales of that era were just as accurate as those of today without digital readouts.

[1inStripes]

Could this bass possibly validate, or bring into question if Perry's fish was actually heavier? Perry's fish was what, 4 inches longer than this one?  I haven't seen a girth measurement yet I don't believe, but it may bring even more/different questions to Perry's fish.

[RobbyZ5001]

Why couldn't that fish accidently swallow a minnow so there would be a new legit record instead of a tie?