please help..... very strange lake???!!!!

[mrlitetackle]

well in my explorations of new fishing territories the other day i came across an extremely strange body of water to me.......

heres what i can tell you.

1. the water is an eerie bright blue/green hue

2. the pond is about 3 to 4 acres in size

3. the water is the most crystal clear i have ever seen!!

4. it is incredibly deep from what i can tell (ill explain the pic below)

5. there were lots of minnows swimming around the shore lines, and i did see numerous amounts of bream/ bluegill type sunfish schooling on shore.

6. i saw no bass, but wonder if there are any??

in the pic below (its not the greatest, but bear with me) you can see the grass exposed in the upper left..... what you are seeing blurred beneath that is cover that is literally at least 15 to 20 underwater, and still dropping rapidly.....

i have no idea how deep this gets, but i would say that 50ft or much more would be a fair assumption.

it is obvious that this has been man made, but holds tons of fish (just not bass from what i saw).

i only had minimal time to scope it out, but need some input from those who may have encountered similar areas.

[bigtimfish]

This looks a lot like the pond I fish. It's basically a sandpit. clear as you can see. The way mine is layed out is highbanks, about 1 to 2 ft deep for about 3 yds, then a drop to 15'. then a shelf for about 15yds then a drop to 25 or 30'. I always catch bass in there. Only on plastics though. Nothing else ever works because of the depth.

[Black Water Basstard]

If you live in Central Florida and you find a pond that had schooling bream/blue gill there is a bass to be caught just be sure to fish ledge you probably didn't see and bass because of the 100 degree weather we have  been having

[mrlitetackle]

thanx for the input so far.....

i do "think" there should be bass around, but the sheer depth of this water is baffling.

as i fish from shore, a nicely weighted soft plastic or jig may be in order......

i do wish for more opinions, as well.

.....and, Black Water, where are you at in orlando?

[Black Water Basstard]

Im over by UCF about 5 minutes away from it I live around the Waterford, Avalon part of Alafaya

[mrlitetackle]

Posted by: Black Water Basstard      Posted on: Today at 12:40am

Im over by UCF about 5 minutes away from it I live around the Waterford, Avalon part of Alafaya

im in winter park, and used to live in the ucf area when i was attending ucf.......

but funny that you mention that, bc this pond is in avalon.......

just one of the many i have scoped around our area.

[Paul Roberts]

My guess is it's spring fed -maybe eroded limestone below and up comes groundwater. This is common around the St John's River waters I believe. Hannon, Glen Lau, Bob Underwood, and others, have done their underwater bass photography in those waters due to the clarity -and I'd guess the attraction of the springs in summer. Doug Hannon has a chapter in one of his books (Big Bass Magic I believe) on springs.

That's my guess.

[bassman31783]

I don't know why but I get a kick out of the pic title.  weird_lake__good_pic.

As far as fishing it goes I, personally, world work a smaller search bait first. Something like a trap, crank, or even a carolina rig or beetle spin. Once you find the bass, giving the lake has any, then I would slow down & find what it is that they are keying in on. Just my $.02

[JellyMan]

It would seem to me that it may be chemicly enhanced? just seems oddly clear for Central Florida.

btw... I will pm you my number so we can do it up man.

[Black Water Basstard]

Yeah Avalon has alot of ponds that have people put chemicals in them to keep them clean, but if you would have ventured over to waterford i could have put you on some big fish

[mrlitetackle]

thanks for all the input guys.

[DINK WHISPERER]

I would definitely be throwing a Carolina rig with some fluoro and a watermelon seed 4" lizard/worm etc. There has to be bass in it man!

GOOD LUCK

[Bassin_Fin@tic]

I fish a few places around here with water like that and they are sandpits.If it has a lot of that coontail moss growing on the bottom then it helps keep the water clear.I doubt it is treated if you are seeing grass growing that deep down. I am no expert but treating weeds usually involves dying the water as well to block sunlight.The green blue color could mean the water is fertile.

A place like that probably has 3-4 foot banks then drops to 15-20 ft and shaped like a bowl with no structure in the middle. You would probably be reduced to paralelling the banks from different angles.

Many times though these places are dug out for water retention or for fill dirt to level highways and build up bridges. Sometimes they may have a very irregular bottom.If you could get a boat out with even a cheap depth finder?

Are you fishing from the bank? If so then throw a c-rig around to get an idea of bottom hardness. Also parallel the bank with at least a 1/2 oz tandem spinnerbait. Naturally it goes without saying that a watermelon or green pumkin senko should be thrown as well.It is one of the best tools to use to just see if there is anything in there. A drop shot with a wacky rigged finesse or trickworm might tell you something too. With the water being that clear then a popper in the morning would be ann obvious choice as well and you may get a chance to see any bait or predator activity on the surface.

Look around and see how many birds live around there as well.It is not always reliable but it can tell you something. If there is a hell load of birds nesting in the trees or diving/swimming in the water then that means there is good forage readily available. Theres a few junk places I used to fish that were just that,junk,and it also seemed there was virtually no bird activity on them either after I put 2 and 2 together. Coincidence?

[Red Bear]

so in other words just throw the entire tackle box at them and see if you catch something? lol

[Bernie Mac]

I think that "Bassin_Fin@tic" got it right.  When I was in Iraq there was this one open area that everyone doing any type of construction would take dirt from and when they dug far enough they hit and aquafur and it was some of the cleanist water around, with in months birds from all over were in there (and that was in the span of 3 to 4 months)...good luck with it...

[Bassnajr]

Without reading the other responses, I would say it is a "pit" of some kind. (limestone mining etc.). The clearness of the water might indicate that it is spring fed, at least partially. Check with the local zoning/planning office in that area. The should be able to fill in any blanks!!

Good luck!!

[mrlitetackle]

Posted by: Bassin_Fin@tic      Posted on: Today at 8:27am

I fish a few places around here with water like that and they are sandpits.If it has a lot of that coontail moss growing on the bottom then it helps keep the water clear.I doubt it is treated if you are seeing grass growing that deep down. I am no expert but treating weeds usually involves dying the water as well to block sunlight.The green blue color could mean the water is fertile.

A place like that probably has 3-4 foot banks then drops to 15-20 ft and shaped like a bowl with no structure in the middle. You would probably be reduced to paralelling the banks from different angles.

Many times though these places are dug out for water retention or for fill dirt to level highways and build up bridges. Sometimes they may have a very irregular bottom.If you could get a boat out with even a cheap depth finder?

Are you fishing from the bank? If so then throw a c-rig around to get an idea of bottom hardness. Also parallel the bank with at least a 1/2 oz tandem spinnerbait. Naturally it goes without saying that a watermelon or green pumkin senko should be thrown as well.It is one of the best tools to use to just see if there is anything in there. A drop shot with a wacky rigged finesse or trickworm might tell you something too. With the water being that clear then a popper in the morning would be ann obvious choice as well and you may get a chance to see any bait or predator activity on the surface.

Look around and see how many birds live around there as well.It is not always reliable but it can tell you something. If there is a hell load of birds nesting in the trees or diving/swimming in the water then that means there is good forage readily available. Theres a few junk places I used to fish that were just that,junk,and it also seemed there was virtually no bird activity on them either after I put 2 and 2 together. Coincidence?

thanx fin@tic.......

very informative, and just what i was looking for.

my next day off, im gonna put some time on it....... and hopefully something good arrises

[bocabasser]

if the bottom is rocky (it looks like a rock/sand pit) i would drag a big 12 inch worm super slow on the bottom. this will give you an idea of depth and contour.

[zaraspook_dylan2]

I have the exact same situation. But there isnt any bass in the pond down  the road from me, I have fished that pond for days on end with every possible technique, and never caught anything. There is a TON of sun fish in there though. This pond is very very deep though, similiar to what your dealing with. My friends dad made it.

[cabullwinkle]

To fish a little faster, I might throw a paddle tail swimbait with a weighted hook.  Also, a spinnerbait with willowblades with some wind on the pond might help out as well.