What is the best line conditioner and do you use them?

[smithfishing]

I use Line and Lure KVD brand for my line.  It works on all kids of line and keeps my cast long and my line strait.  I dont have the mess to clean up like other oils on the market.  

[slomoe]

KVD and yes

[adclem]

KVD and yes.

Later,

[basser89]

KVD L&L and yes!

[Micro]

No.

[soccplayer07]

kvd and yes

[The Next KVD]

KVD and yes

[Willzx225]

You mean there is another one other than KVD?   ;D Yes I use KVD religiously.

[hawgchaser]

I used KVD yesterday for the first time on a new reel. I sprayed it on a rag and spooled it through the rag the night before.

Does it work? Yup

Do I think it makes enough difference to keep using it? Yup

Great product

[uicdent11]

I also used it for the first time yesterday and I am a believer! It worked wonders on 12# CXX. I will continue to use it until proven otherwise.

[Redhed]

i use KVD on copolymer line (silver thread excalibur) on my spin rods and cannot tell a difference.. i treated the line as i spooled. maybe it works better on mono, fluoro and braid.

[Banor]

No. I use quality line that doesnt require the wasted time or expense.

B

[tyrius.]

I use KVD.

The quality of the line does not affect the usefulness of the line conditioner.  You can say that the benefit is not worth the expense, but you'll still see benefits from using the KVD particularly on heavier line.

[J Francho]

No.  I use quality line that doesnt require the wasted time or expense.

B

So what is this magical secret line you're using? I'd like to try it out, if I haven't already.  :-?

[Banor]

I use Seaguar Invisx and Carbon Pro, Yozuri Hybrid Ultra Soft (spinning), and Gamma Copoly.  

Tyrius is correct in that I could have worded my statement as he suggested.  In fact I agree with him wholeheartedly and that's my argument.  The very limited and short lived benefit is outweighed by the wasted effort.

I've used KVD and other line conditioners.  To achieve the benefit you get from it on the initial cast you have to continuously reapply it.  I've found once the conditioner has dried or evaporated away my line was worse than it's original state.  Wasted time and mess if you just use a nice supple line that is manageable to begin with.  

B

[J Francho]

Thanks.  used them all except the Gamma Coply.  Excellent lines.  I disagree about the KVD.  You actually need to let it dry to reap the full benefit.

[Glenn]

Yup.  With KVD line conditioner, you have to let it soak in and dry overnight the first time you use it, otherwise most of it just washes off.  After the initial application, THEN you can "refresh" it with a few squirts and keep fishing.

[Micro]

I'm curious as to how this stuff actually helps.  I mean, how does it make a line softer?  Is there something about it that changes the molecular structure of the line?   And if it does make a line softer, wouldn't it make it weaker?

And I'm curious as to how it "soaks in."   Maybe on mono, but some copolys and all fluoros are touted as water-proof.   And I see claims of huge gains even with coploys and fluoro.   So how does it soak in on those?

I mean, if it just slicks up the line so it peels off the spool easier and slips through the guides easier, I can see that.   I suppose you could use lemon Pledge for that as well.   But making a line softer?  Can someone give a description as to how that is actually done?

Don't get me wrong, I 'm not putting down the product.  I haven't used it.  But I've seen some incredible claims and it seems to me the most this stuff could do is slick up the line.  

[eyedabassman]

I guide and fish alot of tournaments and I would not be without the KVD line cond. in my boat! It does make line much better and it will cast much further when you treat your line the night before, and the bottle goes along way. I have 22 rods in my boat and I maybe go through two bottles a season. What can I say just great stuff!

[CSB]

I'm curious as to how this stuff actually helps.  I mean, how does it make a line softer?  Is there something about it that changes the molecular structure of the line?   And if it does make a line softer, wouldn't it make it weaker?

And I'm curious as to how it "soaks in."   Maybe on mono, but some copolys and all fluoros are touted as water-proof.   And I see claims of huge gains even with coploys and fluoro.   So how does it soak in on those?

I mean, if it just slicks up the line so it peels off the spool easier and slips through the guides easier, I can see that.   I suppose you could use lemon Pledge for that as well.   But making a line softer?  Can someone give a description as to how that is actually done?

Don't get me wrong, I 'm not putting down the product.  I haven't used it.  But I've seen some incredible claims and it seems to me the most this stuff could do is slick up the line.  

Good questions.I have no idea how it works, but it does. I use the KVD stuff on all my lines.

[J Francho]

I'm curious as to how this stuff actually helps. I mean, how does it make a line softer? Is there something about it that changes the molecular structure of the line? And if it does make a line softer, wouldn't it make it weaker?

And I'm curious as to how it "soaks in." Maybe on mono, but some copolys and all fluoros are touted as water-proof. And I see claims of huge gains even with coploys and fluoro. So how does it soak in on those?

I mean, if it just slicks up the line so it peels off the spool easier and slips through the guides easier, I can see that. I suppose you could use lemon Pledge for that as well. But making a line softer? Can someone give a description as to how that is actually done?

Don't get me wrong, I 'm not putting down the product. I haven't used it. But I've seen some incredible claims and it seems to me the most this stuff could do is slick up the line.

This is your problem.  Try it, and you'll have no need for all the questions. Seriously. I recommend starting with fresh line for best results.

[roadwarrior]

KVD Line & Lure Conditioner bonds with the line. Once dried, it does

not wash off. Copolymer line is significantly effected by this product,

memory is virtually eliminated. That doesn't mean there is no coiling

from storage on the spool, but most of this goes away after a few casts.

The other notable feature is reducing backlash and making them

easier to pick out. Increased casting is another claim, but I really

haven't noticed any significant improvement.

8-)

[Bass Bass Bass]

I am finding this topic to be extremely informative!  I just spooled #8 Seagar invizx on one of my spinning set ups last night, which was a first considering I am primarily a braid w/ flouro leader guy.  After taking a few practice casts in the yard I seem to be getting small line twists despite spooling the line properly, from the what I have read here it seems that the line conditioner will help resolve this...or am I wrong?  I was thinking of going out in the yard and stripping the line down the the backing then reeling it back up through a soaked cloth or can I just apply the conditioner directly to the line on the spool?  

Last but not least does Dicks carry the KVD conditioner?  Thanks for the help!  

[senile1]

I am trying KVD Line and Lure Conditioner for the first time this Spring. I tried it for the first time last weekend and it made a very noticeable difference in my casting distance and coiling with my monofilament and hybrid lines (Suffix Elite and Yo Zuri Hybrid Ultrasoft respectively). I mainly pitch and flip with my rod that has braid so I really wasn't able to test with that line. I want to test this product for a few weeks before I confirm my approval, but so far, so good.

I sprayed it on a rag and ran the line through it while spooling as recommended by some. I didn't notice much of a difference from doing this. From my observations, I don't think this provides a thorough soaking to actually condition the line very much. So I sprayed it on the spools the night before I went out. Then, on my first cast with each rod, I sprayed it on the spool before I reeled in the line from the cast so that some conditioning could occur down deep in the spooled line. After doing this I did not have to re-treat for the whole trip and I was out for 6 hours. I was able to cast further and coils were greatly reduced.  We'll see how this goes over the next few weeks.

[MALTESE FALCON]

I was having issues with braided line. I talked to a couple of my walleye pro buddys. Both of them said go get a bottle of KVD Line & Lure and your problems will disappear. I did, and no more problems. I don't know why, but it works. That's all I need to know.

Falcon