1inStripes Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 I do think that it is kinna prepostrous that he took the fish home a ate it but I do believe that the man caught the biggest fish in the world and I also beleive in the 25.1 that was foul hooked. Gotta think man, this was 1932, not 2002. There was a Great Depression going on and everyone done all they could to put food on the table. I don't like eating bass too often, but if Im having a hard time putting food on the table, and I catch any fish, much less a 22lb bass that will feed a few stomachs, its gonna end up on the table.
SimonSays Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 I do think that it is kinna prepostrous that he took the fish home a ate it but I do believe that the man caught the biggest fish in the world and I also beleive in the 25.1 that was foul hooked. Gotta think man, this was 1932, not 2002. There was a Great Depression going on and everyone done all they could to put food on the table. I don't like eating bass too often, but if Im having a hard time putting food on the table, and I catch any fish, much less a 22lb bass that will feed a few stomachs, its gonna end up on the table. Never thought of that, it's a good point, I would have eaten it too...come to mention it...looking at the times I might have to eat a world record too!
bucketmouthmonsters Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 its a good question " DID HIS FISH REALLY WEIGH THAT MUCH??" noone will ever know the truth except perry himself. with that said the pic doent really look like a 22lb bass but i have never seen one that big in person so who am i o judge. one thing that could be possible is what if feild and stream set the bar that high and perry just so happened to be the lucky guy who got chosen to represent the world record bass?? it may have been a 13 lb, 15lb or even 22lb's i guess noone will ever really kno. but, it will be broken im sure. thats what records are for. " made to be broken"
Super User Tin Posted April 21, 2009 Super User Posted April 21, 2009 1. It will never be known 2. Dottie is the world record imo 3. There won't be another 4. Micro should replace Laurence Fishburne on CSI....
George Welcome Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 It was a conspiracy I tell you: The postal employee reply when asked to lie: Yep, it's only during the depression and if I get caught I'm out of a job, but I am sure my family will agree with my decision.. The notaries reply: Yep, I'll do it. What's a little jail time if I get caught. Field and Steams reply: well isn't this the most rediculous claim ever, but what the heck the readers are stupid, as are we, and it's only going to cause us a cheap rod and reel. G. Perry's comments: well I know it's going to make me the laughing stock of the world on bass resource in 2009 but I can get this neato rod and reel. I am sure my family will think it's all worth it. LMAO: knowing that FL strain bass do make it all the way to Georg1a and F1's can grow just as big as the Fl strain.
Mattlures Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 Actualy George, Field and stream did just that. they published several world record, contest winning claims around that same time. Then they had to go back and publish retractions because they were found to be frauds. So obviously people were trying to cheat to win that contes for a neato rod. It is rediculous to say times were different back then and that somehow people were more honest. People have been corrupt since they were created. There have been dishonest cheets throughout recorded history. In that small town where everybody knew everybody and they were all friends, it would be easy to fabricate the story. Just look at all the stupid world records that people do now just to be in a book. Like who can stick the most cloths pins on their faces. There is motive and the means for Perry to have faked the record. Remember he only had 1 lure between himself and Page so a brand new rod and reel to poor farmboy would be a huge prize. Now dont get me wrong I am in no way what so ever saying they lied or faked the record. all I am saying is it could have easily been done. And it had been atempted by several other would be record breakers, contest winners. I have done a lot of research on this subject and at one time I was 95% sure Perry was a cheat and a liar. Now I would say I am about 60% thinking he caught the record. The biggest change in my opinion is that picture. It might not even be Perry's fish it could just be a floater that some guy found and took a pic with his son. But for me that picture refutes 2 of the bigest arguments against Perry's fish. #1 was the measurements. They never stacked up comparred to documented 20lbers but when I look at that fish it looks different then our Cali bass. The measurements become possible. #2 is that GA has never produced another big bass even close to the record. Well to me that fish looks 20+lbs so it has produced at least 1 fish that big. As for the fish being northern strain, well FL is right next to GA so the fish very easily could have been a pure FL strain or a n F1 just like George Welcome said.
Super User WRB Posted April 21, 2009 Super User Posted April 21, 2009 I can't tell you how manny times I have flip flopped on the Perry bass over the years. 60-40 might be a good number for most trophy bass fishermen who have acttually caught giant bass. The bass in the photo looks like it's about 18+ to my educated estimates. 5 lbs heavier, serious doubts. I can have a 5 year old stand behind one of my mounts, but what would that prove? Big bass and small boy, the bass would look a lot bigger then the one we have been debating. The thing to keep in perspective is George Perry didn't enter his catch back in 1932 as a potential world record, it didn't exist for nearly 20 year after he caught his bass. Perry entered a Field & Stream contest for a prize and hopefully some free tackle. I did the same thing back in the 50's, it was the only game in town. Did he exaggerate the weight with the help of his friends, who will ever know. The northern bass verses PURE Florida strain bass is also a mute topic, as Florida and Georgia are connected physically. It's no stretch of the imagination to have FLMB near the border of Georgia; F1, F2...F10, pure Florida that some other fishermen brought up and plated, it's still a FLMB, not a PURE northern LMB. If the 22 1/4 lb bass was a NLMB, George cheated, take your pick. WRB
DawsonH Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 That kid is not standing behind the fish in that picture. He is beside it.
Super User WRB Posted April 21, 2009 Super User Posted April 21, 2009 That kid is not standing behind the fish in that picture. He is beside it. Look a little closer; his right hip is actually behind the bass and arms reaching forward and holding onto the mouth. WRB
bass wrangler569 Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 George Perry's mark is the record whether it is factual or not and there is no point in arguing over something we'll never know. I personally am skeptical about the record but the fact is that Perry's fish is the mark to beat whether or not it should be and no amount of debating is going to change that
Super User grimlin Posted April 21, 2009 Super User Posted April 21, 2009 I actually feel bad for Perry now because of this thread. I'm also confidence somebody is going to beat it.May take another 10-20 years to do it. I just hope it ain't me...i couldn't take this kind of criticism that Perry's been taking all these years.
Super User Catt Posted April 21, 2009 Super User Posted April 21, 2009 The Catt's opinion I believe 100% George Perry's bass was 22 lbs 4 ounces I believe 100% you can not tell the weight of a bass by a photo I believe 100% the photo is not of the world record bass I believe 100% Weakley's 25.01 is the new world record I believe 100% all the rest is just interesting information
Super User Matt Fly Posted April 21, 2009 Super User Posted April 21, 2009 I don't know if its true or not, but its the mark to beat as the records shows. Why debate it any further? All the CSI technology available hasn't over ruled it yet. Mac's bass is living proof that bigger bass exist. But not the record. Cali laws states all fish must be hooked in the mouth, IGFA states all state laws must be observed. Cali law makes it moot point in the first place. Fish of a lifetime, I'm truly sorry he fouled hooked that fish behind the dorsal. I'd love to see Dottie as our record. A fish that massive deserves to be more than a memory. Dottie might have been the next record to stand for 100 years.
32251 Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 The Catt's opinion I believe 100% Weakley's 25.01 is the new world record How can you believe this when it is in clear violation of the rules as to how the fish has to be hooked??
Dalton Tam Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Gotta think man, this was 1932, not 2002. There was a Great Depression going on and everyone done all they could to put food on the table. I don't like eating bass too often, but if Im having a hard time putting food on the table, and I catch any fish, much less a 22lb bass that will feed a few stomachs, its gonna end up on the table.
rboat Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 George Perry caught a really big bass. Was it 22-4? maybe, maybe not. He did what he needed to. It was weighed, notarized, and fed to a needy family. The photo part is puzzling. Not many cameras around rural Georgia in 1932. Film and processing costs also involved. If you were going to take a photo, would you not want the picture to be of the angler and his catch? Not just some unknown guy and a kid? Was the fish 100% LMB or a cross hybrid lookalike? Many questions, however, it is the record until broken, believe it or not.
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted April 22, 2009 Super User Posted April 22, 2009 As far as I am concerned, the world record bass died last year and she will not be beat for some time to come.
Super User Catt Posted April 22, 2009 Super User Posted April 22, 2009 The Catt's opinion I believe 100% Weakley's 25.01 is the new world record How can you believe this when it is in clear violation of the rules as to how the fish has to be hooked?? In order to be the best you must beat the best & 25.01 trumps 22.25 Was it caught by legal means under State laws no but all I need to see certified are the scales used to weigh the fish. All the rest is interesting information
Limpinglogan Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Am I the only one who thinks the fish in the picture could easily be a 22lb fish? I think it looks huge!
Captain Obvious Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 I have one????? Why would Perry lie about the weight?? I mean he was fishing to put food on the table, I'm sure he didn't know what the world record bass weighed before he caught his. I mean he wasn't like " Hmmmm.... let me go check on the Internet (which hadn't been invented yet) and see what the world record LMB is..... I see 18lb....then lets call this one 22-4 take a picture than eat it so nobody can find out " the fact that the picture is taken with an unknown kid is a point in his favor, it shows that he didn't really care what the fish weighed, If he did he would have had a picture of him and the fish I'm not saying that the scale he measured the fish on was correct, but the man told the honest truth about what he thought the fished weighed And the record stands 22-4, that's the number to beat.
RandySBreth Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Maybe Hannon is just grumpy because it wasn't caught on this thing.... http://www.naturalmotionlures.com/index.php ;D
Eddie Munster Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Dottie WAS the New World Record that didn't get caught BY THE RULES. I watched the special on t.v. with the guys who kept trying to catch Dottie after they caught her the first time. He said something along the lines of 'I couldn't tell for sure that she went after it (the bait) so I just set the hook' thus resulting in the foul hook. Sightfishing, blindly setting the hook doesn't give him the record IMO. I give him props for telling the truth but he didn't earn the record. Despite all the drama, Perry has the record. Period.
Super User WRB Posted April 22, 2009 Super User Posted April 22, 2009 Dottie WAS the New World Record that didn't get caught BY THE RULES. I watched the special on t.v. with the guys who kept trying to catch Dottie after they caught her the first time. He said something along the lines of 'I couldn't tell for sure that she went after it (the bait) so I just set the hook' thus resulting in the foul hook. Sightfishing, blindly setting the hook doesn't give him the record IMO. I give him props for telling the truth but he didn't earn the record. Despite all the drama, Perry has the record. Period. Don't give too much credit, the observers standing on the nearby dock blew the whistle on him and that was why the bass was immediately released...before being officially weighed. The heaviest weight is commonly reported as 25.1, however that was on the fishermen's digital hand held scale*, on the dock scale the was 21.8 lbs, so there are several issues with Dotties weight also. * The scale tested accurate weeks later, however the fish was never examined for added weight. It's very important to follow all the rules to establish a new world record. You got to wonder why the immediate release if everything was right. The scene had to be a circus and it's a shame how that catch played out. WRB
etommy28 Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 eddie im not 100% sure on this but I think in cali itdoes not matter weather site fishing or not the fish must be hooked in the mouth if not it does not count and must be released. Maybe some one from cali can give some insite on this.
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