Super User Catt Posted March 12, 2009 Super User Posted March 12, 2009 An idea has recently been brought to my attention one I have given careful consideration and have decided to bounce off the membership. The idea is instead of starting a simple guide service I should start a Structure Fishing School. The classes would consist of me going out with anglers on Toledo Bend with a topographical map in hand and showing how to use electronics to locate a specific piece of structure. Then I would proceed in showing how to find sweet spots on the structure and then how to position the boat to fish the structure effectively. These classes would consist of more than one day depending on angler's level of experience and would be held in the area of choice of the student. What do y'all think, plausible or not? Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted March 12, 2009 Super User Posted March 12, 2009 Very good idea , you could probably pull it off. Quote
JiggaMan512 Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 i think its an excellent idea, because its something that I could personally benefit greatly from, as im sure alot of us here could. Keep us informed on this idea.. Quote
princecraft papa Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I think it is a awesome idea! I have been fishing for a long time, but I would still be interested in something like this just to get a different veiwpoint. once you got a reasonable customer base, you could start a club for clients, this would be a cool concept in franchising! good luck & have fun with it Quote
dman Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Great idea! I dont know electronics and if someone around here offered that service, i'd go in a heartbeat. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 12, 2009 Super User Posted March 12, 2009 I think your idea is great, but wonder if there is enough demand? Offering this option in addition to standard guide services might be a better business plan. Instead of tipping your hand talking with the local guides, I would run the idea by Randall and George Welcome. Another thought: It also seems to me that the key to success for the guides I know personally is repeat business, long-term relationships. Here again, the standard guide service might be more important over time. 8-) Quote
paul. Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 These classes would consist of more than one day depending on angler's level of experience and would be held in the area of choice of the student. i choose tennessee. ;D if you don't want to start a full blown guide service, have you ever thought about just writing a book instead? perhaps another idea would be an online class where people could send you graph screen shots or map images and you could help them interpret what they are seeing and how to fish it. that way, your knowledge and expertise is out there for anyone and everyone to benefit from. Quote
Low_Budget_Hooker Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I agree with RW. I think it would be cool to offer an "accelerated" guided day along side with the normal guided day. You want that repeat biz. Quote
smallie.huntin Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I think it's a great idea, but like a few others have said offer it along with a regular guide service. I know if you were in my area I would jump on the chance to learn how to interpret what I am seeing on my fish finder and find those "sweet spots". Good luck with it! Quote
Super User fishfordollars Posted March 12, 2009 Super User Posted March 12, 2009 Great idea Catt. You should stay busy. Quote
Super User senile1 Posted March 12, 2009 Super User Posted March 12, 2009 These classes would consist of more than one day depending on angler's level of experience and would be held in the area of choice of the student. i choose tennessee. ;D if you don't want to start a full blown guide service, have you ever thought about just writing a book instead? perhaps another idea would be an online class where people could send you graph screen shots or map images and you could help them interpret what they are seeing and how to fish it. that way, your knowledge and expertise is out there for anyone and everyone to benefit from. If you really want to teach people how to read their graphs to find the sweet spot on structure, I think a book is an awesome idea as Paul suggests. From a business standpoint, if you're wanting to make your money on the water I'm with RW's post. Either way, you have the knowledge for it. Quote
Triton21 Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I agree with RW & LBH. I don't know if I will ever be able to fish the 'Big Pond' again but if I do your service will be at the top of my list of 'things to do'. Good Luck with your new business. Kelley Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted March 12, 2009 Super User Posted March 12, 2009 go out on their boat, with their electronics. this will save a ton of money on insurance and probably bonding too. Quote
Randall Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 That would be what most of what I do with my guide service and seminars. Many of my lakes don't have much of a topo map that helps but I teach what to look for on the depth finder and give them a picture of what the structure looks like and what to look for. Most guys who go out with me want to learn and I am probably a much better teacher than just a guide since that's what I enjoy doing. I don't hold anything back and provide all the information I can. We do catch some fish too though. I do have some clients that over time don't need me as much anymore. I ran in to one yesterday while on the lake that had just caught a nine pounder on structure. One big plus to teaching people something while we fish is that if the fishing is slow at least they learn something they can take and apply later. Quote
SLO_ROLL Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I think you should include scuba with the class. If your water is clear enough. Quote
Randall Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 go out on their boat, with their electronics. this will save a ton of money on insurance and probably bonding too. I have done this also at times. Saves me on gas, getting the boat ready and having to tow a boat through Atlanta. Sometimes I just sit in the back and coach the person on what to do and look for while they fish. Good idea but we still do better as far as catching when using my boat under my control. I have found out many peoples biggest weakness is boat control. But, if it's just a class then it works out pretty well after you teach them how to use the trolling motor. ;D Sometimes I just have to end up running the motor. Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 12, 2009 Author Super User Posted March 12, 2009 Thanks for the outstanding suggestions y'all The reasoning behind using your boat is not to say me money although that is a plus but I feel anglers retain more information when they have control of the boat; boat positioning when reading structure is a huge part the equation just as it is when setup to fish the structure. I feel exactly the same as Randall I enjoy teaching as much as any part of fishing but I also believe that one can only learn so much from a guided one day outing. And as Randall said One big plus to teaching people something while we fish is that if the fishing is slow at least they learn something they can take and apply later. I've entertained the thought of writing a book but unfortunately I lack the skills required to undertake such a project; I know what I want to say I just have a hard time putting it into writing. Many of my post here though short take hours of writing and re-writing trying to make the subject understandable to as many different skill levels as possible. Quote
aarogb Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I think it is a very good and very unique idea. Quote
NBR Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Catt, I think it's a great idea and, intime, adding video, scuba and some graphics would increase your market size. I live too far to make a trip practical. Quote
TN basstracker Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I like the idea. I've been wanting to learn more about Structure fishing and what I'm seeing on my graph. My best friend and his wife just got stationed from Iraq and Germany down to Fort Polk, I believe, near Toledo Bend. We had been discussing, with great excitement, about fishing The Bend, but neither of us know anything about it. Quote
Super User Jimzee Posted March 12, 2009 Super User Posted March 12, 2009 I really like the idea Catt, very creative. One of my biggest weaknesses is interpreting what I am looking at on that screen. Fishing lakes with vast amounts of cover to go along with the already existing structure is just sometimes pretty overwhelming to me. I see only one problem with your idea, you're too far from me. Quote
wagn Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 As other have said.....It's a great idea. My greatest weakness right now is structure fishing and would love to take an on the water "class" on it. Quote
BassCats Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 send me a note if you do it. I will gladly be a customer Quote
Super User fishinfiend Posted March 12, 2009 Super User Posted March 12, 2009 Catt, that sounds like a great idea. If you would like, I would be more than glad to be a practice customer free of charge. Quote
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