jack1 Posted January 16, 2009 Posted January 16, 2009 LOL...I know how you feel. Last winter my speech class topic was on fishing as well. My last speech was a 15 minute bashing on PETA. I got a B+ in the class, although I swear to God I deserved at least an A! Quote
Super User fishinfiend Posted January 16, 2009 Super User Posted January 16, 2009 My last speech was a 15 minute bashing on PETA. I'm surprised that went over well considering the climate of many college campuses. The court yard at my college was like a scene out of the movie PCU on many days > Quote
Roger Hunter Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 Im sorry but I may be distroying fish lives in the lakes I fish, But I almost always release fish I catch. The simple reason is that I am lazy. I dont want to go home after all day fishing and clean them lizards. I just catch em and get em back in the water. An exception to my rule is if for some reason I injured the fish or I need something for supper. But the fact is that most of the time what I catch isnt reaching the size limit. Quote
silvercliff_46 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 I think a persons attitude toward harvest has a lot to do in where they live and how they were brought up. I lived in the country most of my life. I hunt, trap, fished and gathered. The wife and I keep a few meals of fish during the summer, a few for the winter, and a couple for folks that can't do it for themselves anymore(believe it or not there are folks older then me). Some are trout, some are bass, most are pan fish. I shoot a deer every year, which provides most of our meat over winter. We gather ramps, mushrooms, chicory, berries, and wood for our winter fire's. I don't trap much anymore but when I did that went for a few extra bucks for Christmas. Now I trap a couple of coon and beaver a year because they both taste great (NO SMART REMARKS ABOUT THE BEAVER EITHER). I loved to duck hunt, but quit because I hated eating them, and the guy I gave them to died. If I lost my taste for venison I wouldn't kill a deer anymore either. I like fishing most because I have a choice whether to harvest or put them back. I'm not the best hunter or fisherman, but I can do it every day. If I wanted to I could fill my freezer with fish and game, but I don't and won't. I guess if what I do is immoral or not sporting, then they should end all the bag limits on everything. I mean we could go after deer with paint balls couldn't we? Quote
Super User Muddy Posted January 18, 2009 Super User Posted January 18, 2009 Hey Silverfish I really respect where you are coming from! 8-) Quote
silvercliff_46 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Thanks Muddy. I guess I fancy myself a Conservationist not a Preservationist. Quote
RobbyZ5001 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 I think you need legit sources or at least you should. I would love to see my prof's reaction if I cited bassresource. Your college library should have plenty of books on the subject. If you cannot find books then turn to your Internet databases in which your college spends money to provide for you. Quote
Mac1 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Alin, a couple of sources you might want to check are the Wisconsin DNR site and the UDSA site. Both organizations fund research studies and make those reports available online. Good luck on your speech. Quote
Mac1 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Correction that should be USDA. Click on natural resources and environment and then wildlife. Quote
Johnf1 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 The fact is that not releasing any type of fish these days is highly irresponsible. Were are just years away from stripping the oceans dry of fish. I heard on a radio show the other day that in twenty years from now, there might not be any seafood left to consume. This is even more important in freshwater lakes. Everytime you take a bass out of a small lake, you are killing the lake for future fishing. If you want bass fishing to last for future generations, catch and release is a must. Also, there is no need to harest fish yourself. This is a primitave human impulse, to hunt, and you must overcome that, These days, you can go to the grocery store and buy farm raised fish. And there are pleanty of other foodsources out there besides bass. Catch and release of bass is a must IMO, and people should really pay closer attention to what they take out of the ocean as well. juist my 2 cents. Quote
tyrius. Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 This is even more important in freshwater lakes. Everytime you take a bass out of a small lake, you are killing the lake for future fishing. If you want bass fishing to last for future generations, catch and release is a must. Factually incorrect. Quote
Johnf1 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 This is even more important in freshwater lakes. Everytime you take a bass out of a small lake, you are killing the lake for future fishing. If you want bass fishing to last for future generations, catch and release is a must. Factually incorrect. Taking a large female, for example, from a small pond cannot possibly benifit the lake. That is factual. Now give me some evidence to support your oppinion. How would removing a healthy, large bass from a lake benifit the population.? Or do anything non- harmful, for that matter? Quote
tyrius. Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Taking a large female, for example, from a small pond cannot possibly benifit the lake. That is factual. Now give me some evidence to support your oppinion. How would removing a healthy bass from a lake benifit the population.? Or do anything non- harmful, for that matter? I agree with you on taking a large fish. For the rest google selective harvest or search for it here. I've been through it too many times already and don't really have the energy for it today. Quote
Johnf1 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 I have read all about selective harvest, It involves controlled elimination of smaller fish or other undesirable fish, to give the large, desirable fish less competition and more forage, so the lake will eventually contain higher numbers of desirable fish, as I have come to understand it. Having established this, we can conclude that removing large bass is both destructive to the lake and to the sport of bass fishing. I think you and I are on the same page. Quote
Big Al Posted January 19, 2009 Author Posted January 19, 2009 Thanks for the suggestions guys. I've found some legit DNR studies as there is no way bassresource.com would cut it as a cited source, even though it is my favorite source. No need to do any more bickering Quote
Super User Muddy Posted January 19, 2009 Super User Posted January 19, 2009 The fact is that not releasing any type of fish these days is highly irresponsible. Were are just years away from stripping the oceans dry of fish. I heard on a radio show the other day that in twenty years from now, there might not be any seafood left to consume. This is even more important in freshwater lakes. Everytime you take a bass out of a small lake, you are killing the lake for future fishing. If you want bass fishing to last for future generations, catch and release is a must. Also, there is no need to harest fish yourself. This is a primitave human impulse, to hunt, and you must overcome that, These days, you can go to the grocery store and buy farm raised fish. And there are pleanty of other foodsources out there besides bass. Catch and release of bass is a must IMO, and people should really pay closer attention to what they take out of the ocean as well. juist my 2 cents. . Where does this stuff come from? Resist primitive impulses, Gimme a break WOW!!!!! :-/ Quote
silvercliff_46 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 HMmmmmmmmmm! I guess I'm just going to have my wife iron my loincloth. : ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Quote
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