Super User fourbizz Posted September 29, 2008 Super User Posted September 29, 2008 Oops...Terminology? How 'bout "wake bait"? I meant that since you already have them on plane, just drag 'em in! : I wasnt bustin you about terminology i just didnt get what you meant, lol. I think i saw a picture of Fourbizz with a bent heavy wire treble hook around a 4/0 from a LM Hey Fourbizz was that LM a good fight? NO > That was a straight up @#$ KICKING!!!!!!!HAHA She was about 9-10lbs warmwater. She was not impressed with me. 3/0 Owner , 150lb split ring. Bummer. Quote
Pigsticker Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Thanks Bizz, Oh those fat,lazy,bloated Largemouth bass : Quote
Super User Tin Posted September 29, 2008 Super User Posted September 29, 2008 O please Bizz, it was a log. : Quote
Mattlures Posted September 29, 2008 Author Posted September 29, 2008 Guys I didnt give up in my opinions. I just knew I would start a fight.(a friendly fight) Yes I have never caught a smallie. I have seen them caught on TV many times and they do look like strong athletic fish. They also look like they have much more stamina then a LMB. They also look a lot easier to land. A little patients and good line and drag and you win. A big LMB is a much more worthy aponent. You have to make all the right moves durring the fight or you will loose. Good equipment only gives you a chance. You have to take controll and win the fight. Big LMB dont want to fight, they want to get away! Quote
GRIZZ Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 All do respect, a 5lb smallie is easier to catch and land then a 5lb largemouth.... Quote
Super User grimlin Posted September 29, 2008 Super User Posted September 29, 2008 They the smallmouth and largemouth has been unhooking themselves on me.People tell me "oh bass are easy to catch"....i laugh every time i hear that.They get lucky...but they ain't good.I rather be good at bass fishing than lucky. But given a choice i rather hook a smallmouth,you just can't beat the 2-3' jumps in the air.Never had a largemouth jump like that yet. I fish from shore and i have seen both fish drag the lure against rocks and branches to unhook themselves.Talk about a smart maneuver on their part. Largemouth seem to have softer mouths than a smallmouth...so it is a bit easier to lose a largemouth bass than it is to lose a smallmouth. Quote
thetr20one Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Steelhead sre some bad a** SOBs . Very very powerful and acrobatic. since the only salt I have ever been close to was the Taunton River in Mass and I caught nothing. I have no expierience in salt and can't comment there But I have never battled anything having the power, acrobatics, speed, or willpower of a 15 lb steelhead. Freshwater drum are some tough dudes too just annoying during tournies. Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 29, 2008 Super User Posted September 29, 2008 LMB are a wonderful fish to catch because they respond to so many different lures and techniques, however they are not the strongest fresh water game fish or even the hardest fighting bass IMO. Spotted and smallmouth bass fight harder pound for pound, then LMB. The fact that LMB tend to live in or close to cover or structure elements can give them an advantage to wrap the line around something and break you off. The king of the fresh water game fish is the musky, IMO. Muskies jump, live in cover and can freight train you in a heart beat. Steelhead are salt water rainbow trout and like most salt water game fish can fight harder and longer than fresh water fish. The strongest bass is the Calico or kelp bass IMO or any of the salt water bass. Then the tuna, bill fish, jacks and snappers that will distroy most fresh water tackle. I have lost very few big bass over the years. Big bass are not smart, wary yes, hard fighting...yes...for a minute or two. WRB Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 My vote is for the Musky and Steelhead (I never caught a salmon, so I can't comment on them). I have caught many largemouth and smallmouth bass. The only reason you may say a largemouth is a better fighter then a smallmouth is because most of the smallmouth I have caught is in open water, which makes the landing percentage higher. But, I would prefer to catch one 5lb. smallmouth instead of five 7 lb. largemouth anyday (unless of course, I am in a big money tournamnet) Quote
thetr20one Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 We catch steelhead in erie. I hooked up on maybe a new state record but it came loose 5 feet from the boat. Even lake Erie steelhead are true fighters. 1# in my book for freshwater. Quote
Jake. Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 I agree with your point. I think pound for pound smallmouth and some saltwater species are the hardest fighters, but largemouths are the ones that get away the most. Quote
mase088 Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 I don't know y'all ever tie into a Cobia (Ling) Cobia get my vote for hardest pound for pound. I've caught a 35 pound paddle fish on 10 lb line. I broke off about a 30 inch cobia on 35 pound line and had a fight that wore me the heck out on a 26 incher. Mind you cobia are not fat fish in the least. Doubt it weighed over 8 lbs. Quote
shorefisher Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 In my admittedly limited experience I would have to agree. Smallies are great fun and run and jump and raise a ruckus but big Largemouth do seem to have a knack for getting unbuttoned or causing trouble in general. Also I've noticed a big difference between individual fish. Last Saturday I hooked a 4lb LMB that I swore was a 36+ inch pike...until he surfaced. Hit a buzzbait at night like a semi and then when he got close enough to detect the canoe I thought he was going to flip me for sure. I've never had a LM fight like that before. I know exactly what Catt means. -Shore Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted October 1, 2008 Super User Posted October 1, 2008 Matt, Next year come with me to Brazil. I'll bet a JW Blue that a 15 lb peacock will change your mind. Quote
Mattlures Posted October 1, 2008 Author Posted October 1, 2008 If I can afford it that sounds like fun but what the heck is a JW blue? Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted October 1, 2008 Super User Posted October 1, 2008 Johnny Walker. Quote
flatbass Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 It seems to me there is a lot of difference in the individual fish. Sometimes you can catch a 3lb smallmouth and they will just about break your arm,sometimes just another fish. The same way with largemouth, maybe its the water temp., or the time of year.Maybe just the way they feel that day. Quote
A+ANGLER Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Largemouth are awesome fighters but .............in Jawja we got these fish called shoalies on some of our current waters,rivers creeks,etc. Lb. 4 Lb. these fish are king in all areas.They are wicked fish with nasty attitudes and ridiculous appetites.Cross a LMB with a SMB and throw in a splash of spot.There ya have it.......Getcha arm Broke I says. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted October 13, 2008 BassResource.com Administrator Posted October 13, 2008 Welcome aboard A+ Quote
Trick Worm Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 there are some extremely smart saltwater fish that will wrap line around propellers and everyone knows tarpon shake out hooks like its their job Quote
TournyFish001 Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 2.5LB smallie oz per oz is the UFC fighter of bass Quote
UrbanRedneck Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 Largemouth over 10 pounds do have the uncanny ability to some how get off your line. It seems its just something they do. They arent the best fighters, strength wise, but they shake those hooks. Ive had entirely too many broken heart experiences with DD largemouth, but in the last few years it seems I win more than I lose. I once hooked a largemouth that I estimated at 15 pounds. I hooked it on a long cast in the middle of the summer. I made it through 5 acrobatic, head shaking, water clearing jumps and figured I had her. Nope. The sixth jump came 10 feet from the boat and she promptly threw the bait back at me. Thats one I will never forget :-[ However, theres more to the story. A week later at 2 in the morning on the exact same spot I landed a 14.5, as far as I could tell by the sound it jumped a bunch so I guess luck was on my side that time Quote
way Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 i landed this large mouth today using night crawlers and a floater. I used regular cheap 8 lb. line and flour carbon 8lb. leader line... It gaved a good fight and it ran left and right. Then he/she ran into the bushes and stopped fighting and i pulled the bushes in to land it. It is 19" and estimate about 6-7lbs.... I caught it at Legg Lake in El Monte, California. . Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted October 15, 2008 Super User Posted October 15, 2008 GET DA BUCKET!!!!!!! Quote
UrbanRedneck Posted October 15, 2008 Posted October 15, 2008 ;D ;D ;D ;D Now that right there is funny. The only thing you didnt include Mr. Bizz is the urban dictionary definition. Classic. Some things are too predictable. Quote
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