Super User roadwarrior Posted October 3, 2008 Super User Posted October 3, 2008 Download these tables for future reference. The numbers are not perfect for every fish you might catch, but close! http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9222.html The two numbers of special note are 20.5" for largemouth and 22" for smallmouth. 8-) Quote
Super User Muddy Posted October 3, 2008 Super User Posted October 3, 2008 Hey RW, just a question here what if you had a scale but not a ruler , could you punch the weight into the formula and get the lentgh Quote
George Welcome Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 The above quoted charts use a logarithm which is standard amongst fisheries biologists: Log (weight in grams)= -4.83 + 1.923 x Log (total length in millimeters) + 1.157 x Log (girth in millimeters). It will be approximately the same as: Optional weight estimate based on TL*TL*G/1200: Hal Schramm's: Optional weight estimated based on TL*G*G/800: For gravid appearing bass from Texas and California: Optional weight estimate based on TL*TL*G/1000: Most of the countries biologists use the Logarithm based on the typical torpedo shaped bass. Texas and California have to adjust the formula as most of the fish there appear gravid. Quote
George Welcome Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 That's actually a very valid question and yes, if you use the chart from NY's DEC you could, because the chart assumes a certain girth to length based on torpedo shaped bass. Quote
Super User fishinfiend Posted October 3, 2008 Super User Posted October 3, 2008 I will have to save that site . Thanks RW!! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 3, 2008 Author Super User Posted October 3, 2008 Chart is off with some fish. You have to weigh a fish on a scale to know exactly what that particular fish weighs. As George Welcome pointed out, bass from different regions vary significantly in shape and density. This chart estimates "averages" based on sampling done by the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation measured across New York State. ** Individual results will vary ** 8-) Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 3, 2008 Super User Posted October 3, 2008 For bass; the formula L X L X G / 1200 = weight in lbs., works for me over the past 35+ years, accurate within 5%. L = length tip of closed mouth to end of tail, G = girth around widest area, dorsal fin down. Any chart that doesn't consider the fishes length and girth isn't going to be accurate. You can use a factor like; 80% of the basses length can represent the average girth of a nortern strain LMB and 90% of the length for girth of the average FLMB caught in California or Texas for a ball park weight, if you don't have an accurate scale. WRB PS; the referenced chart appears to use a factor of 75% of length to equal girth and that is closer for smallmouth bass or thin bodied LMB, IMO. Quote
wisturkeyhunter Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Chart is off with some fish. You have to weigh a fish on a scale to know exactly what that particular fish weighs. As George Welcome pointed out, bass from different regions vary significantly in shape and density. This chart estimates "averages" based on sampling done by the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation measured across New York State. ** Individual results will vary ** 8-) Average size on 35 inch walleyes. I've never heard of anyone catching a walleye that long and they have enough there get an accurate average length. : Quote
Rich K Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 This Fish Weight Calculator offered on this site also does a fantastic job. You can key in length only to match the numbers the OP referred to. Quote
wagn Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 I prefer this classic formula [(length + girth) x my best guess on the weight] / number of witnesses who might discredit my guess = a lunker everytime ;D Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 3, 2008 Author Super User Posted October 3, 2008 I prefer this classic formula [(length + girth) x my best guess on the weight] / number of witnesses who might discredit my guess = a lunker everytime ;D And any fish that gets away automatically doubles in size! 8-) Quote
CameronB Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Makes no sense. I have seen a largemouth 1/4" under 24" that was 13.10 I have seen a largemouth that a tad under an 1/8" over 24" that weighed 5.82. Quote
daviscw Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 I prefer this classic formula [(length + girth) x my best guess on the weight] / number of witnesses who might discredit my guess = a lunker everytime ;D And any fish that gets away automatically doubles in size! 8-) True that! ;D Quote
Super User Muddy Posted October 3, 2008 Super User Posted October 3, 2008 WHY DOES EVERYONE COMPLICATE THINGS AROUND HERE? Look at Brauss's signature KISS Keep It Simple Stupid Here is the easy way Dink Avg Fish Big Fish Or the classic accounting of a days catch: I LOST THE BIGGEST FISH OF MY LIFE< POSSIBLY THE RECORD Case Closed Mooks ;D Quote
vtbassin Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 WHY DOES EVERYONE COMPLICATE THINGS AROUND HERE? I LOST THE BIGGEST FISH OF MY LIFE< POSSIBLY THE RECORD Case Closed Mooks ;D ;D ;D ;D Quote
Super User MALTESE FALCON Posted October 4, 2008 Super User Posted October 4, 2008 I like wagn's formula the best, it's probably the most accurate.LOL Falcon Quote
mattm Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 I like the idea of taking the 5 minutes you use reading this thread and downloading RW's site to get a scale the next time your in Wal-Mart. Then you know for sure. Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted October 4, 2008 Super User Posted October 4, 2008 Those numbers look pretty good. Quote
SuskyDude Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 Here's my formula: 1. Got to Wal-Mart, pay twenty dollars for a digital scale. 2. Weigh sack of sugar on scale to make sure its accurate. 3. Go catch a fish. 4. Carefully hang fish on scale and obtain ACTUAL weight! Isn't that amazing! Now I know this is a wild concept, but I prefer using a scale. Weighing fish by measurements can be pretty close, but they can also be completely bogus. Hanging a fish on an accurate scale is the only way. Only twenty bucks, people! Only twenty bucks! Just get one! Put down those lures your probably not going to use, walk over to the gadgets aisle, and pick up a scale! I feel like I've taken crazy pills! ;D Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted October 4, 2008 Super User Posted October 4, 2008 I don't weigh most of my fish. I used to, with a calibrated scale, and still carry one. but it is something of a hassle,and I only do it for extraordinary fish now. After I'd done this enough I can pretty much tell. I do measure a lot of fish, against marks on my fishing rod. Knowing length, and judging body condition, you can be pretty close. I think this is really good info. Many people really don't know what ballpark an 18" bass weighs. They catch a nice bass and later wonder, "How big was that one?" Good charts can get you in the ballpark. Thanks, RW. Quote
BassResource.com Advertiser FD. Posted October 4, 2008 BassResource.com Advertiser Posted October 4, 2008 Makes no sense. I have seen a largemouth 1/4" under 24" that was 13.10 I have seen a largemouth that a tad under an 1/8" over 24" that weighed 5.82. It's not absolute but sure looks close to me. Quote
Super User Marty Posted October 4, 2008 Super User Posted October 4, 2008 I don't weigh most of my fish. I used to, with a calibrated scale, and still carry one. but it is something of a hassle,and I only do it for extraordinary fish now. I do the same thing. For most bass I catch, it's good enough for me to know that it's 17", 18", or whatever. But I always carry a scale which is tested a couple of times per year by weighing stuff that's already been weighed on certified scales at the supermarket. Whether you weigh a lot of fish or just a few, I highly recommend testing it a few times a year. Scales that have been very accurate for a few years can and do go bad. I know that all too well. Quote
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