Deep water help

[zellamander]

Hey guys, I need some help on fishing deep water. I don't have a good fish finder, so i can't really rely on that. The lake is Bone Creek Lake, in Arma Kansas. It is a 540 acre lake that has about 440 acres of standing timber in it. Not much open here guys. There is a single strip that goes from the north side to the south side for boats to go on, and thats basically all the open water.

Surface temp is 84-87 degrees. How do I find those big boys?

[WRB]

For starters I couldn't locate any lakes in or near Arma KS, the closest appears to be a strip pit towards the west, but that isn't anywhere close to 540 acres.

Get your self a topo map and look at the lake bottom contour, less the trees to start with. You need to locate the original creek channel, then follow the channel and fish the outside bends that intersect high higher ground with the largest diameter trees. This would be a small hump or hill underwater, with a cut away bank that should have some rocky areas. The trees are usually near the base of the hill. Start at the dam area and work your way back toward the shallow end. The big girls will be in the lower 1/3rd of the lake, nearer the dam and deeper water.

WRB

[fishfordollars]

Look for anything out of the ordinary.

[Catt]

Do we not read all the post here?

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1214969797

[roadwarrior]

Geez...

C'mon Catt,

That's "old news". Your thread is more than a month old.

Things may have changed!

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[Catt]

RW you & I learned about structure how many years ago?  

And they call us older anglers senile?  

[Alpster]

I must tell you, when I was struggling to catch a bass, any bass at all, for the "MOJO" thread. It was the first time in my life I have caught a bass in over 30' of water. When the temps get up in the 90s & 100s the fish go deep. A jig or in my case T-rigged "Culprit" worm slowly on the bottom in the deepest part of the lake. Lesson learned.

Ronnie

[roadwarrior]

RW you & I learned about structure how many years ago?

And they call us older anglers senile?

Well...

We were trying to decide what to name "them" before there were rocks!

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[JShrock07]

Go deep really deep!!! Hit up heavy cover either shallow or deep.

[WRB]

Zellamnder;

The reason I wanted to look at the lake you are fishing is to determine how to classify it. If you  live in Kanas, the terrian is very flat and most reservoirs in your area are known as "flatland" impoundments. The fact that it has flooded trees still standing may indicate that it is a newer lake. Smaller flatland reservoirs may not have much in the way of classic structure features, you are looking for smaller breaks where the depth may only change a foot or so. The soil make up may also be consistant with few rocky areas. The fact that trees grew there indicate there is some fertile soil, trees can't grow on clay.

Look at the surrouding area and visualize the same terrain underwater in the lake you fish.

Try to forget about the trees when studing the contours; you can't see the forest from the trees, applies. Once you see the contour of the land underwater, then a tree located near structure becomes cover and a ambush site for bass.

Deep water is also relatiive; in a flatland reservoir located in Kansas, 15 feet could be deep water during the summer period, due to a strong thermocline layer.

Trust your fish finder, it is your underwater eyes and well worth the time to discover the original creek channel and any quick changes in depth. When everything looks the same, find something different and fish it.

WRB

[zellamander]

The lake is called "Bone Creek" It's about 5 miles north and 3 miles west of Arma, KS. If you google it maybe you can better info to find it on your map. I've tried to find maps so i can see the bottom, where is the best place to locate those?