Clueless people and their views on "fishing"

[wareagle83]

Had a buddy I know very well buy an older model open bow ski-boat or runabout I guess you would call it.  He was telling me over the phone about it and I jokingly said, you should save your money and put a nice fish finder on it.  He then said fishfinders are a waste of money and proceeded to tell me why would he buy a fishfinder.  Will it tell him the exact bait that the fish wants to eat that is being shown on it!!!  LOL  I can't imagine trying to explain to him why using a fast action graphite rod is not the best choice for cranking.  Some people really think we are nuts and overthinking this apparently "simple" old thing we call fishing.  P.S. - He loves to catfish though.  

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

I have to agree with him to a point.  I personally feel many folks WAY overthink fisdhing.  Either something has to be a certain brand (or it wont work), a certain color (or it won't work) or used by "Joe Pro" (or it wont work)

Let's take "hooks" for example.  I get a kick out of seeing folks go back and forth over which hook is better......

I say it all the time,....the Indians got it done with braided husk and a piece of bone.

If you blame a tourny loss on the fact that you had X-points instead of Gammies,.......you have BIGGER fishing issues than hook choice.

I think Over-thinking is a thing CREATED by fisherman,lol

Another example would be the fishfinder.

I don't use one for freshwater, I will on a new body but not on my lake, no need for it.  Saltwater is a different story, the finder on my previous boat ran me almost 5k.  It was a necessary tool for catching Giant Bluefin Tuna.  If I were a traveling tournament angler, I would only have the best of the best but to find the LM in a 230 acre lake,....we don't bother with electronics.

[Gatorbassman]

In my home lake if you don't have a depthfinder you are screwed. Even if you've been fishing the lake for years you still can run up on a hump in the middle of the lake and then come off of it without a lower unit. It doesn't matter what boat you have a fishfinder is a safety item that is a must.

[Guest muddy]

MAN I LEARNED MY LESSON:

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

In my home lake if you don't have a depthfinder you are screwed. Even if you've been fishing the lake for years you still can run up on a hump in the middle of the lake and then come off of it without a lower unit. It doesn't matter what boat you have a fishfinder is a safety item that is a must.

lol,...at 4mph, we've yet to leave any Minn Kota lower units on any sand bars or humps.,lol  I know every speck of this particular lake.

I should have been more specific.  I'm speaking strictly about my home lake.  I'm not going to go to a place like Fork and not turn the thing on..... : ;D

[PlasticMan]

Great point with the hooks. (No pun intended) For some reason people seem to jump back and forth regarding hooks. I have friends that say they will only use Gammies, and another who will use only Owners. Then the following week they are bragging about a different hook.

I used to use only Gammies, then switched over to Eagle Claws about 4 years ago. However, I will not pass up a good deal on ANY brand.

I think this is a very interesting topic because it explores all of our hidden obsessions and quirks. We all have them.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

Saturday,...no terminal tackle box, oops....thank God I hadn't cleaned the boat from last yr,....lifted the floor deck and Voila!  4/0 EWG  ;D

Yesterday, Massholemike spins around and asks me for a hook.  I reached down and grabbed the same hook, still in the fluke from the day before,lol.

[grimlin]

Fishing with eagle claw hooks for years.I switched over to owners...honestly i CAN tell the difference in hooksets,sharpness and how strong some of the better hooks are compare to the cheap hooks.

[MNGeorge]

I say it all the time,....the Indians got it done with braided husk and a piece of bone.

Not that I disagree with everything you say because I too believe we all give the fish way too much credit sometimes, but to compare today's fisheries with the fisheries the indians had to deal with is hardly a valid comparison.  I'm guessing you'd have a hard time feeding your family fish using braided husk and a bone in this day and age.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

I'm making a point.... :

I've fed myself with my fish and didn't fret on which brand of high quality hook I was using.  I still made lots of money and never dropped a fish because the hook gave out.  I straightened a Gammy on a 1000lb slob but I had to push the pin on her,...my own decision in which I knew the risk would be a pulled or straightened hook or a fish going to market.  Either way, my point is, it wasn't the hook's fault.

More to the point is knowing where to be and what depth to drop your baits at to get the bite.  

Another example, a fish is going to smack a senko if it is in feeding mode and you drop it on it's head.  IN MOST CASES, it won't matter if it's a yamamoto or an *** or a Yum, it also won't matter if it's black, green or pumpkin swirl.  Hitting him in the head with it while he's feeding is the reason he ate the thing.

I'll concur that on occasion, the crucial details (color, fall rate, scents, special dyes, rattles and so on), are very important, but more often than not, they aren't.  JMO

[Alpster]

Hitting him in the head with it while he's feeding is the reason he ate the thing.  JMO

I'm no expert, but I try to do this as often as I can. I think it works.  

Ronnie

[Bassnbrett101]

I agree with LBH

I use whatever hook thats on sale and my hooks never gave out and I don't usually miss fish unless its my fault.  I use the stock hooks on my crankbaits, and i hook fish.  It's as simple as that.

It's the same thing with lure brands (in soft plastics anyway), its not the brand its the size shape and color of the lure your using.  I do think color has somewhat of an effect, but its more the basic color than the actual color.  A lure with blue fleck is just as good as the same lure without blue fleck in my opinion.

Hard lures such as jerkbaits, crankbaits, and topwaters can sometimes be a brand thing because every brand has a different unique action.

Idk I may be overthinking it now lol

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

Idk I may be overthinking it now lol

;D ;D ;D

[RoLo]

I'm making a point.... :

I've fed myself with my fish and didn't fret on which brand of high quality hook I was using. I still made lots of money and never dropped a fish because the hook gave out. I straightened a Gammy on a 1000lb slob but I had to push the pin on her,...my own decision in which I knew the risk would be a pulled or straightened hook or a fish going to market. Either way, my point is, it wasn't the hook's fault.

More to the point is knowing where to be and what depth to drop your baits at to get the bite.

Another example, a fish is going to smack a senko if it is in feeding mode and you drop it on it's head. IN MOST CASES, it won't matter if it's a yamamoto or an *** or a Yum, it also won't matter if it's black, green or pumpkin swirl. Hitting him in the head with it while he's feeding is the reason he ate the thing.

I'll concur that on occasion, the crucial details (color, fall rate, scents, special dyes, rattles and so on), are very important, but more often than not, they aren't. JMO

I agree with Russ, we tend to expend a lot of mental energy on peripherals and window dressing.

That's fine & dandy, as long as we can keep our eyes-on-the-ball:

(Fine-tuning location - Lure choice - Depth & Speed of Delivery)

Where we do part company though is at the "depth sounder".

That's my main man and without it I feel like a blindman without a cane.

On familiar lakes, I can easily run my route without a GPS but need the depth sounder for closure.

I want to actually see the structure or cover that brings me there. Also, I might decide to look for a wad of baitfish,

to check-out the canopy of a newly fallen tree, etc, etc.

Florida is currrently engaged in an all out war against hydrilla (what else is new).

I gave a friend of mine the cooridinates to a healthy stand of hydrilla and the next time I seen him he said,

"You got anymore good spots like that?". I knew immediately what that meant, and sure enough

the next time I mounted those numbers, the sonar was not marking any hydrilla!

No offense, as everyone has to start somewhere (mine was a 9 ft piece of crap)

Watch it Buddy, I still have a 10-foot pram and oars in my garage ;D

She can go, where no bass boat has ever gone

Roger

[wareagle83]

I definitely agree that alot of us overthink things such as brand names, and etc.. but what I was getting at is that most people who think of fishing as dropping a line in the water underneath a bobber look at us as if we are crazy for having even 4 different rod and reel setups, a box full of traps, and 20 bags of worms regardless of brand.  People seeing a box full o hooks of all different sizes regardless of brand really think we are losing it.  LOL  My said friend likes to fish but as I said mostly catfish which he sad he only plans to do occasionally from the boat as he bought it mainly just to run around the lake and have fun.  But buying a BASS boat to him makes no sense even if you really like bass fishing because it is only good at one thing and has no room for other people, or to ski from   ;D  Like I said, those are the words to me anyway from a person who doesn't quite get fishing as much as we do.

[Rattlinrogue]

As for Ffinders,I love mine,but I caught a whole lot before I used one.As for hooks or any other equipment,people use what they think is best for them and no amount of arguing about it will change that.I've used expensive hooks,but currently use what some call"cheap"(the difference is about 50 cents).I use 'em cause I like 'em not because of that extra quarter or two.

[FD.]

Quality makes a difference, not brand....

As for the depth finder, I don't function without one.  Even though I just started bass fishing last year, I have had boats for years.  All of them have had depth finders for safety reason and most have had GPS.  It is very cheap insurance.

[Quinn]

Give him TIME.  In TIME he will get too "old" to ski and will have a boat he can add a depth finder and a trolling motor and maybe a front seat in the middle of the open bow.

?? just my $.02

[=Matt 5.0=]

I'll concur

Isn't that my line?