Murray Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 i tried to post this a while ago around 12 am one night and hit post but it was maintenance mode so my post went into lala land. i got so mad i didnt come back for a week but its good to be back. among the approximatly 200 fish we encountered here were the biggest. this is what happens when it goes from 32 degrees daily to a week straight of 70's then back to 30's i made the mistake of bending over to put my rod next to it smelled like on a bunsun burner this one has a crank in it (revenge is sweet) this one was easily over 12 coons got the better of this one. edited to delete repeated photos Quote
Jake. Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Whate a shame. It's sad to see so many bass dead like that. :-/ Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 14, 2008 Super User Posted February 14, 2008 i tried to post this a while ago around 12 am one night and hit post but it was maintenance mode so my post went into lala land. i got so mad i didnt come back for a week but its good to be back. Don't get mad, we gotta do maintenance to "maintain" the site. It might seem like magic, but it ain't! Glenn puts in "a little time" to keep things ticking around here. Quote
Murray Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 oh i know it was my mistake i just got heated 8-) Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 14, 2008 Super User Posted February 14, 2008 Biologist came to this conclusion? Quote
MaxDal Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Sad sight indeed :-/ ! You said 200 dead bass ... on what distance ? Were there only the bass that were hit ? (I wonder if there's a crappie in one of the group pictures) It seems pretty strange that the changing weather did that ! Scary anyway. A dead 12lbs floating on you fishing spot must be something hard Quote
Murray Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 the temperatures alone did not do it...some microbial life form died off from the temps and the oxygen levels changed. it is a 64 (?) acre pond and we walked about 250 to 300 yards of shoreline. bluegill, crappie, stripers, hybrids and grass carp. the crappie seemed to to okay. Quote
Super User Tin Posted February 15, 2008 Super User Posted February 15, 2008 Thats sad. Surprised that caused it though, in New England we can have 30-50 degree temperature changes in the matter of one or two days in the spring. Luckily we have never had that happen up here. They would all be dead by summer. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 15, 2008 Super User Posted February 15, 2008 Biologist came to this conclusion? Extemely cold weather can cause a fish kill if the lake turns over, but warm weather NEVER kills in such an extreme. I think there is more to this than meets the eye. Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 15, 2008 Super User Posted February 15, 2008 Biologist came to this conclusion? Extemely cold weather can cause a fish kill if the lake turns over, but warm weather NEVER kills in such an extreme. I think there is more to this than meets the eye. I agree but I'm just hoping it aint some type of virus, I hate see this but would hate even worse for some virus to go unchecked. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted February 15, 2008 Super User Posted February 15, 2008 To have striper and hybrids, you need some depth for 64 acres. Seems very strange. Winter months normally provide adequate oxygen levels. Sad no matter what happened. Quote
Super User Tin Posted February 15, 2008 Super User Posted February 15, 2008 I think a second biologists opinion would help. : Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 15, 2008 Super User Posted February 15, 2008 Cold air temperature swings didn't kill those fish. Water cools form top down and the fish just go deeper to avoid extreme water temperature changes. What may have happened is a large amount of cold water entered the lake due to a storm. Bass can only take about a 10 degree water temerature change without being streesed, couple the cold water and low DO if the heavy cold water turned the lake over and you will end up with a fish kill. It happens when the lake levels are usually low and a tremdous amount of cold run off enters the lake qwickly. WRB Quote
fisherdave Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 We have a lake close to wear I live that golden allgey got it and it looked like that dead fish everywhere. FisherDave Quote
jwo1124 Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 That is one of the sadest sights I've ever seen. And to see a Bass around 12# that will never be caught by an anglers is a shame. I think that there needs to be a lot more water/fisheries management operatins throughout the country on all bodies of water and not just Large popular lakes. Obviously scientists can't maintain every pond stream and lake, but making an effort would be a start. I read some where that there are more anglers in the United States than golfers and tennis players combined...not to mention the profits made by the fishing tackle industry, I think fishing is one the the last few activities people can take part in to enjoy mother nature fully, and that should be priceless. Saying that I think local governments should realize that, and make more of an effort to maintain and manage lakes, rivers, ponds, and streams. I'm not saying that this event could or could nto have been prevented or minimized, but knowing that their are specialized trained, and educated people dedicated to the causes would be refreshing. Quote
fishizzle Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 Wow!!! I've never seen such a thing. sooooo sad-all those monsters :'( :'( :'( :'(............................. Quote
farmpond1 Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 I've never heard of a variation in temperature killing fish. Rendering them hard to catch, yes, but not killing them. Not as you described anyway. Could it be some other explanation? Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 19, 2008 Super User Posted February 19, 2008 Fish kills happen. This event didn't happen because of any man made chemical intrusion of lack of management. If the fishery is healthy, the eccosystem is healthy the fish population should be very resilant to fluctuations. You should be more concerned with fish mortality that you can control. A high percentage of (big) bass die from stress after being released; poorly handled, photographed, weighed, shown off, placed in a livewell for hours with low DO and water over 70 degrees. Tournament mortality is about 25% for average size bass, big bass higher. Put your efforts where they can help; install DO generators and temperature controls in your livewells, so you are not adding to fish kills. WRB Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 19, 2008 Super User Posted February 19, 2008 I've never heard of a variation in temperature killing fish. Rendering them hard to catch, yes, but not killing them. Not as you described anyway. Could it be some other explanation? We experienced a similar fish kill at lake Piru in southern CA., last month, as result of massive storm producing cold water run off. Piru was very low due to last years drought, the storm was out of Canada with snow and hail, the lake came up about 30 feet in 24 hours. A few days after the storm, thousands of fish were floating dead and more you don't see that sank. Thermal shock is a primary killer of bass, although it doesn't happen often from natural events, it takes severe conditions to change the core water temperature more than 10 degrees quickly. WRB Quote
Murray Posted February 20, 2008 Author Posted February 20, 2008 it was not the temeratures that killed the bass. the temperatures killed of some algae or other microbial lifeform. this changed to oxygen levels and the fish couldnt take it. Quote
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