fisherdave Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 I think theres a diffrence in useing live bait and finding something amuseing sorry I not against hunting fishing or shotting varments but getting amused by something like whats on the other pages in that sight there is something wrong with that.
Guest Wiimote_Angler Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 It doesn't matter. If you fed a snake live mice you're feeding a snake live mice. Whatever goes on in the head of a person is his/her business.
fisherdave Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 But they are displaying it to the public eye then it makes it everyone elses bussiness I understand haveing a pet and haveing to feed it but man displaying it and getting your jollies off on the kill. I dont get it. Not trying to cause a dispute different strokes for different folks.
Guest avid Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 I actually got an education watching how that bass killed and ate the mouse. weird, but informative.
paul. Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 hmmm, bass on live mice. look out world record, i'm headed to cali with a towsack full of 'possums!!!!
Super User RoLo Posted November 23, 2007 Super User Posted November 23, 2007 Thanx for nothing, now my secret is out! > If you are really serious about boating a wall-hanger, then liveline a "Norway Rat"....that's what I'M talking about : Roger
Guest muddy Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 When Low Budget Hookers came to CA to visit, I tied a hook to this back and threw him into the Delta. I didn't catch any fish? :-? Thats because it was post spawn, females weren't interested
Super User T-rig Posted November 23, 2007 Super User Posted November 23, 2007 When Low Budget Hookers came to CA to visit, I tied a hook to this back and threw him into the Delta. I didn't catch any fish? :-? Thats because it was post spawn, females weren't interested ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tokyo Tony Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 I don't see how using mice as bait is that different from using shiners for bait, or feeding mice to a snake or bass. It's certainly not any more brutal than setting mousetraps in your house. I bet mice would make great bait, judging by the few mice I've seen swimming on the surface. I wouldn't use them just because it would be messy.
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 23, 2007 Super User Posted November 23, 2007 Well, I'm not squemish, but I'm not too fond of crickets or leeches and would NOT want to handle a mouse, period. I wouldn't fish a real mouse even if I were guaranteed to catch a bass!
Joel W Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 I don't see how using mice as bait is that different from using shiners for bait, or feeding mice to a snake or bass. It's certainly not any more brutal than setting mousetraps in your house. I bet mice would make great bait, judging by the few mice I've seen swimming on the surface. I wouldn't use them just because it would be messy. There is a big difference between using a mouse and a shiner. The mouse feels pain, the shiner doesn't. To me Bass fishing is all about using artificial lures into tricking a Bass into striking. Granted, one has to find the active fish which is usually the hardest part of the equation.
bass109 Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 biggest difference is that a shiner will bring out a tropy bass from the bottom. I never used mice but who would? stick to worms,minnows,leeches,shad,and shiners
Pigsticker Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 I never use live bait just because i dont like touching the bait and gunking stuff up but i read a article somewhere about an oldtimer using baby chicks a bait for monster yellowcats in texas now granted that is catfish but some people some people are doing stuff like that, killing chicks for catfish is a lot more cold hearted than killing some mice in my opinion
Lucky Craft Man Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 Here's a story that happened locally. I worked with a guy who had a baitstore for years and he had one customer that came in many times with pictures of huge muskie that he had caught. The baitstore owner was curious what this customer had used for bait, because he never bought any muskie lures or bait from him. So he asked the customer the one day what he was using to catch these big fish. The guy responded that he would look in the newspaper for anyone giving away kittens. He would get the kittens from these various places and take them out fishing with him. He made a harness for the kittens that had hooks attached to it and he would put the kittens in the harness and cast them out over large weed beds. If the kitten would drown before he received a strike, he would rig up the next one and cast it out. The baitstore owner told me that after his wife (who helped him run the baitstore) heard about what this customer was using for bait, she refused to wait on him everytime he came into the store. I know it sounds mean, but when the guy told me this story, I couldn't stop laughing. I guess I couldn't believe that someone would actually think of using a kitten for bait (or a live mouse for that matter).
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 23, 2007 Super User Posted November 23, 2007 Laws vary from state to state and I'm not sure where the lines are drawn, but regardless of "The Law", fishing with a kitten is animal abuse. >
Davis Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 Laws vary from state to state and I'm not sure where the lines are drawn, but regardless of "The Law", fishing with a kitten is animal abuse. > I agree. To even laugh about it is sick.
Super User Jimzee Posted November 23, 2007 Super User Posted November 23, 2007 I would love to catch someone abusing an animal like that. It wouldn't be pretty!
Tokyo Tony Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 There is a big difference between using a mouse and a shiner. The mouse feels pain, the shiner doesn't. To me Bass fishing is all about using artificial lures into tricking a Bass into striking. Granted, one has to find the active fish which is usually the hardest part of the equation. How do you know shiners don't feel pain? 'Pain' might be the wrong word anyway, but regardless, I don't have any more respect for mice than I do for shiners. Using mice, IMO, would not be any worse than using shiners, although it may seem worse. Kittens? That's just ridiculous. I can't believe someone would do that, but I guess he really really, really likes his muskies, and doesn't care much for cats.
Super User .dsaavedra. Posted November 23, 2007 Super User Posted November 23, 2007 There is a big difference between using a mouse and a shiner. The mouse feels pain, the shiner doesn't. To me Bass fishing is all about using artificial lures into tricking a Bass into striking. Granted, one has to find the active fish which is usually the hardest part of the equation. How do you know shiners don't feel pain? 'Pain' might be the wrong word anyway, but regardless, I don't have any more respect for mice than I do for shiners. Using mice, IMO, would not be any worse than using shiners, although it may seem worse. Kittens? That's just ridiculous. I can't believe someone would do that, but I guess he really really, really likes his muskies, and doesn't care much for cats. i have the same views. certainly shiners feel pain. take a screwdriver and start pressing it behind the gills of a shiner or baby bluegill....notice how they start frantically flapping....i dont think theyre doing it for fun. ever unhooked a fish and you accidently jerk the hook the wrong way and the fish "gags"....ive always thought of that as they showing that i just hurt them. i guess the difference is that shiners are cold, slimy, and hard, but mice are warm fluffy and soft. but still...theyre pretty much equal in terms. with that being said....i would never use a mouse for bait!!!! i'd much rather keep my fingers in tact than try to hook that little bugger just to maybe catch a fish.
Live.2.Fish Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 Posted by: roadwarrior Posted on: Today at 12:12pm fishing with a kitten is animal abuse. I agree with RW 100%
JiggaMan512 Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 yeah i have to agree with the rest of the group. stick to artifical lures, IMO. that way, you know (when you do hook up a bass), that it was your personal skill and technique that helped land that fish.
Lucky Craft Man Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 Laws vary from state to state and I'm not sure where the lines are drawn, but regardless of "The Law", fishing with a kitten is animal abuse. > I agree. To even laugh about it is sick. I don't condone what the guy did. The humor was more in the baitshop owner who was telling the story (especially when he told me how his wife reacted when she found out)
Super User Bassin_Fin@tic Posted November 23, 2007 Super User Posted November 23, 2007 Laws vary from state to state and I'm not sure where the lines are drawn, but regardless of "The Law", fishing with a kitten is animal abuse. > I agree. To even laugh about it is sick. Hmmm.Methinks that is the type of person that we should harness and use for bait for sharks.If he drowns first then Im sure cut bait would work too.Just my .01 worth.I realize swearing isnt allowed on this board so thats all I can say in a civil manner.
hollandbass Posted November 24, 2007 Posted November 24, 2007 The kittens thing is just plain retarded. I am betting the guy was joking around, how many muskies would eat a floating kitten? But if its true that just messed up, thag guy has problems.
bocabasser Posted November 24, 2007 Posted November 24, 2007 The kittens thing is just plain retarded. I am betting the guy was joking around, how many muskies would eat a floating kitten? But if its true that just messed up, thag guy has problems. i agree
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