Do the hooks hurt the fish?

[stilldontlikeyou]

;D  Good replies....Nah shes cool with my fishing, and she said she may even try fishing herself, but she was wondering how much pain the fish are in.  She works at a vet and is a huge animal lover, so she gets concerned over all types of animals.  Hell, I feel horrible gut hooking a fish myself.  Either way, my fish addiction is growing!  

[BassHunter69]

;D Good replies....Nah shes cool with my fishing, and she said she may even try fishing herself, but she was wondering how much pain the fish are in. She works at a vet and is a huge animal lover, so she gets concerned over all types of animals. Hell, I feel horrible gut hooking a fish myself. Either way, my fish addiction is growing!

i know what you mean by gut hooking those fish sometimes that just cant be helped

[Raul]

Ofcourse it hurts!Why do you think Jimmy Houston is always "kissing it and making it better"!

Don 't know which is worse, getting hooked or kissed by Jimmy Houston....... now that I think about it with more detail, getting hooked and kissed by Jimmy Houston is worse, cruel and unnecessary suffering.  

[bassnleo]

Just last weekend I was skipping baits under pontoon boats. I fet a bite, set the hook, line broke. I immediately re-tied and skipped my bait back under the very same boat and caught a fish. When I got him in he had my first bait in his throat.....Felt bad about that....but he ate immediately after being hooked once.....

[stilldontlikeyou]

Just last weekend I was skipping baits under pontoon boats. I fet a bite, set the hook, line broke. I immediately re-tied and skipped my bait back under the very same boat and caught a fish. When I got him in he had my first bait in his throat.....Felt bad about that....but he ate immediately after being hooked once.....

I had something similar happen not too long ago.  I got a bass hooked on the bottom lip and there was some blood dripping involved.  I release him, and 4 mins later I catch him again with a couple drops still coming from the hole in the bottom lip.    

[BassHunter69]

Just last weekend I was skipping baits under pontoon boats. I fet a bite, set the hook, line broke. I immediately re-tied and skipped my bait back under the very same boat and caught a fish. When I got him in he had my first bait in his throat.....Felt bad about that....but he ate immediately after being hooked once.....

I had something similar happen not too long ago. I got a bass hooked on the bottom lip and there was some blood dripping involved. I release him, and 4 mins later I catch him again with a couple drops still coming from the hole in the bottom lip.

thats one hungry fish  

[MemphisFisherman]

I'm sure it all depends on the particular fish on how long it takes him to feed again.  We used to have a creek that ran behind my old house and it had a decent population of bream and small bass.  One day I was wondering how many of the same fish I catch over and over again so I took a small holepuncher with me and punched a little whole in the tail's of the bream I caught that day (mean I know).  It wasn't until about 15 were caught before I started catching the same bream again.  Maybe this is all situational, being that it's a small narrow creek and I am sure theres alot of pressure from other fish to grab the first thing they see....or maybe it's not.  But what I can tell you for sure is that fish have no problem eating again right after being caught.  I think what may prolong the period is the stress they are put under after being hooked.  Are they drug around in a livewell for 6 hours?  Did you hang him from a scale and take pictures for a period of time? Or did you just hook the fish and toss him back...all of these are factor's im sure.  And yes, the holes in the mouth and even a torn mouth grow back, how many fish have you caught that had holes in his mouth?

[Ghetto_Basser]

Well how does the bass feel when he is eating a bluegill? They are a little spiny. How about a duckling? When you hook a bass it is pretty solid around

the mouth. Now gut hooking I can't imagine would feel that good.

So next time your out ask him "how it feels"

[MemphisFisherman]

^^ exactly.  You shouldn't really feel bad for a fish when the only reason you caught him is because he was trying to kill another fish or  critter.  I guess if you foul hooked the bass...or netted or used some aggravation attempt to get him, then I can see how you can feel differently.

[eastkybass]

When I was up at my sisters I had my kids out on her dock fishing.  My Daughter hooked in to a little bass(10 inches or so) that broke her line off.  The next day while I was out fishing a reeled in the same fish and the hook and line was still there.  I removed the hook on it and took mine out and off it swam.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

A staple of the Bhuddist diet in SE Asia is fish - the guy that wrote that article was a peta-bhuddist.

Pain is a human thing - do some animals feel pain? Yep. Do fish feel pain? Highly unlikely.

Next time you catch a sunny try swallowing it whole and later tell me about the pain you encountered. Bass do it daily.

This is EXACTLY how it was explained to me by a marine biologist from The Univ of R.I.-Kingston.  Fish eat many spiney, shelled creatures.  The digestive system of a bass, including it's mouth are null and void of the nerve cells that register "pain".  The nerve cells found in these areas can detect pressure, weight, taste and a slight sense of temperature.  Otherwise, they would starve.

I'm sure it all depends on the particular fish on how long it takes him to feed again.  We used to have a creek that ran behind my old house and it had a decent population of bream and small bass.  One day I was wondering how many of the same fish I catch over and over again so I took a small holepuncher with me and punched a little whole in the tail's of the bream I caught that day (mean I know).  It wasn't until about 15 were caught before I started catching the same bream again.  Maybe this is all situational, being that it's a small narrow creek and I am sure theres alot of pressure from other fish to grab the first thing they see....or maybe it's not.  But what I can tell you for sure is that fish have no problem eating again right after being caught.  I think what may prolong the period is the stress they are put under after being hooked.  Are they drug around in a livewell for 6 hours?  Did you hang him from a scale and take pictures for a period of time? Or did you just hook the fish and toss him back...all of these are factor's im sure.  And yes, the holes in the mouth and even a torn mouth grow back, how many fish have you caught that had holes in his mouth?

Not really mean, but not very effective because they will soon repair the fin (unless infection sets in)  When infection sets in, the body produces scar tissue and will stop the continuing growth of the fin, otherwise, it will be good as new in a week or 2.  Below is a pic of a bass that lost a chunk of tail somewhere along it's long life.  Scar tissue set in on the tail and now we know this fish by the tell tale (no pun) mark.

Everyone,...meet Gwendalyn (Gwen for short)  She's one of our lakes older matriarchs.  Ain't she a beaut for up north?

[Guest avid]

Anyway, fish don't feel pain as we know it.

I see.  And which of our piscatorial friends confirmed this bit of information?

As far as the mouth, lips, digestive tract of a bass being tough as nails, to that I have no doubt.

But what about when we hook em through the eye/  Think might hurt a tad?

As far the dharma queen spokesperson for all Buddhists.  Please feel free to view her comments as if she were someone who read a few bible verses and posted a website announcing they were the messenger of His true word.

Let's get real ok?   We can argue about scientific evidence and brain size, and gullet roughness and all that stuff.  But why?

Are we afraid to acknowledge that we are involved in a blood sport because some squeamish types find it politically incorrect?

Nobody here is a fish so nobody here knows for sure what they feel or how they feel it.

But lets not hide behind these scientific cop outs.

We are engaged in a legal, economically viable pastime, that we and others enjoy.  It does no harm to humans, and using care and consideration for our quarry........c&R. rejuvenation etc.  it can actually benefit the breed, and the ecosystem.

Not that this matters.

We fish because we enjoy it.  It's legal.  And that's all there is to it.

[BassHunter69]

Anyway, fish don't feel pain as we know it.

I see. And which of our piscatorial friends confirmed this bit of information?

As far as the mouth, lips, digestive tract of a bass being tough as nails, to that I have no doubt.

But what about when we hook em through the eye/ Think might hurt a tad?

As far the dharma queen spokesperson for all Buddhists. Please feel free to view her comments as if she were someone who read a few bible verses and posted a website announcing they were the messenger of His true word.

Let's get real ok? We can argue about scientific evidence and brain size, and gullet roughness and all that stuff. But why?

Are we afraid to acknowledge that we are involved in a blood sport because some squeamish types find it politically incorrect?

Nobody here is a fish so nobody here knows for sure what they feel or how they feel it.

But lets not hide behind these scientific cop outs.

We are engaged in a legal, economically viable pastime, that we and others enjoy. It does no harm to humans, and using care and consideration for our quarry........c&R. rejuvenation etc. it can actually benefit the breed, and the ecosystem.

Not that this matters.

We fish because we enjoy it. It's legal. And that's all there is to it.

now thats what i missed when avid was recovering well spoken avid

[Del from philly]

i cant beleive you guys let the "hole-punch story" fly......

[FIN-S-R]

Got to admit, I could give a $#!# if they can feel anything or not, as long as they keep kickin till weigh in and get me paid.

[BassHunter69]

Got to admit, I could give a $#!# if they can feel anything or not, as long as they keep kickin till weigh in and get me paid.

now thats more like it  

[Guest avid]

YO Russ,

I'm sure we are all delighted to meet your latest lady love.

But.............and be honest now................

Who would you rather kiss.

Gwendolyn.

or....................(you know)  

[Bass Smacker]

Anyway, fish don't feel pain as we know it.

I see. And which of our piscatorial friends confirmed this bit of information?

As far as the mouth, lips, digestive tract of a bass being tough as nails, to that I have no doubt.

But what about when we hook em through the eye/ Think might hurt a tad?

As far the dharma queen spokesperson for all Buddhists. Please feel free to view her comments as if she were someone who read a few bible verses and posted a website announcing they were the messenger of His true word.

Let's get real ok? We can argue about scientific evidence and brain size, and gullet roughness and all that stuff. But why?

Are we afraid to acknowledge that we are involved in a blood sport because some squeamish types find it politically incorrect?

Nobody here is a fish so nobody here knows for sure what they feel or how they feel it.

But lets not hide behind these scientific cop outs.

We are engaged in a legal, economically viable pastime, that we and others enjoy. It does no harm to humans, and using care and consideration for our quarry........c&R. rejuvenation etc. it can actually benefit the breed, and the ecosystem.

Not that this matters.

We fish because we enjoy it. It's legal. And that's all there is to it.

Well said