A Question for the FLIPPING EXPERTS

[CraigBaugher]

This is an excerise:

First, write down how to FLIP a lure.

Then I want you to video tape yourself FLIPPING a lure to an actual target, an if you can do it while on a boat, ALL THE BETTER.   DO NOT REVIEW THE TAPE OR DIGIT VIDEO

Question #1: Do you think, you flipped in accordance to your description?

Now review your tape or digit video

Question #2: Did you really?

Question #3: Now Do you think you could accurately decribe the art of flipping without a video or a long series of actual photographs?

Lord knows I"M GUILTY.  I have been describing how to flip lures for years.  Then I just video taped myself flipping.  Night and Day  Not even close!  I consider myself someone that can flip based on the fact I can get my lure accurately to a target without a hint of a splash.  What more is needed?  That is the only requirement. That is the objective.   But my flipping technique didn't come close to what I have been describing for years.  I never dipped and lifted my rod, not once.  My rod stayed level and arms moved in & out more or less, rocking the lure into the pendulum motion and then used my free hand to feed the line out just as the lure reached the bottom or pivot point of pendulum motion and that "Whipped" the lure out as my rod arm extended out level pointing to the target.  Technically correct?  I don't know, but the resultant is right.

So I was wondering, if I have an odd cast that works, or if the way I have been describing flipping to others all these years is WRONG! ???

[TI_Bassin]

Hay Craig,

 Let me start out saying I'm not a flipping expert at the least or at least yet, plan on working on it this year but that's for another thread.

You say your flipping style doesn't follow your description of flipping when you're trying to explain it to someone and you want to know which one is right? Well both are right way to do it, the style you use gets the job done for you and I bet if someone that your trying to teach will be able to flip the way your telling them to.

It's like watching two golf swings, let's take Tiger Woods swing and it looks the way a golf swing should look like the club head goes back on plain then goes down on plain, and then you take Lee Trevino and his golf swing to me is one of the ugliest swings you will ever see, his goes back on one plain and then down on another plain but both swings get the job done and Lee is one of if not the most accurate player in the history of the PGA Tour. Know both of them will tell you the same thing when trying to explain the golf swing to you but if you have ever seen Lee's swing it doesn't look anything like he will explain it to you, all that matters is that you have the golf club square at impact no matter how you get it there.

Now in flipping what I can see is that a good flip depends on when you start to give the line at the right moment of the pendulum movement of the bait, too soon and you will under shoot your target and if it's to late the bate will fly to high and over shoot the target and when you stop it it splashes down in the water but if you give it line at the right moment it will fly just above the water and land softly with out a splash. So basically when your explaining how to flip your more of giving them guidelines to follow. It doesn't matter what the motion looks like to get the bait to start the pendulum movement as long as the outcome is what you want, that's the way I see it. I hope this can help some.

Paul

[Catt]

I can explain to a newbie how they should flip a jig but I also tell them don't watch how I flip because what works for me may not work for them.

I've been flipping long before anyone had a name for it, it aint pretty, it aint even quite but its deadly on catching.

[Long Mike]

The only thing I'm good at flippin is the toilet seat.

[Chris]

I have sat down and explained how to flip on this forum many times. I can demonstrate how to flip and it is accurate to how I explain it. When you watch me bass fish you will never see me flip ever. It is a wasted technique in my opinion. I can pitch or roll cast faster and more accurate then if I was to flip it. I get more distance and I don't limit myself that is why I don't use it anymore.

[Alpster]

I have sat down and explained how to flip on this forum many times. I can demonstrate how to flip and it is accurate to how I explain it. When you watch me bass fish you will never see me flip ever. It is a wasted technique in my opinion. I can pitch or roll cast faster and more accurate then if I was to flip it. I get more distance and I don't limit myself that is why I don't use it anymore.

Chris,

I quit flipping a long time ago also, I pitch exclusively. I have to admit I have been disingenuous as I have often refered to pitching as flipping, just to avoid explaining the difference. I have found that spending my time practicing pitching has improved my catch ratio dramatically. JMHE

Ronnie

[cart7t]

I don't flip that often though I have a flippin rod for those special occasions.  I pitch mostly.

[CraigBaugher]

Well a room of honest people.  I do flip on a rare occasions, because it simply is best cast to use at the time, but I too perfer my 7-foot pitching stick to my much heavier flipping rod.

[Catt]

I guess once again the odd ball here, I flip more that I pitch, but only in extremely close conditions. By the end of this month I'll be fishing inside the buck brush; I will actually have my boat as far back in the brush as possible. Flipping is the only casting technique that will work in this situation and a 5' 6 to 6' rod is all there is room for.

Any other time I cast over hand, side arm, roll cast ect; my thought is why waste time holding my bait in my hand when I can simple cast it. I have won several bait casting competitions for distance and accuracy using over hand and roll casting.

[llPa1nll]

I have sat down and explained how to flip on this forum many times. I can demonstrate how to flip and it is accurate to how I explain it. When you watch me bass fish you will never see me flip ever. It is a wasted technique in my opinion. I can pitch or roll cast faster and more accurate then if I was to flip it. I get more distance and I don't limit myself that is why I don't use it anymore.

I totally agree...

[Guest the_muddy_man]

Those of us who were born and raised in Brooklyn call Flippin a whole other sport having to do with Road rage if you know what I mean if you can get my drift

[Siebert Outdoors]

I'm with chris on this one too.  I can explain it fairly well but if you watch me its ugly.  I have modified most casting techniques to fit my fishing style.  It works great for me so I dont plan on changing anything.  I rarely flip anyway mostly pitch or side arm cast.

[CJ]

I am a "anyway I can get it in there" kinda guy! :

[SPEEDBEAD.]

I am a "anyway I can get it in there" kinda guy! :

Thats what its all about....

[flyphisher #]

To say there is alot of over analyzation on this site would be an understatement :

[=Matt 5.0=]

I am a "anyway I can get it in there" kinda guy! :

Truth  8-)

[earthworm77]

Kinda funny this was brought up. For years I've flipped jigs and plastics however, only recently did I discover that my technique is actually pitching which I find easier. Which ever works I guess.

[CraigBaugher]

Those of us who were born and raised in Brooklyn call Flippin a whole other sport having to do with Road rage if you know what I mean if you can get my drift

Man, mud, have we fished together?  You look real familiar to me.  Ever use a guide on Lake St. Clair, or Lake Erie, or any business with Barnes Group Associated Springs, Secom General (Form Flow, Micanol, Triple Tool, L&H Die, Uni-Flow, Tri-pak), or Wellington Industries?  Do you work for a Tier #1 supplier?

[Guest the_muddy_man]

No to all of the above. I have been a drummer and bartender In New orleans and Brooklyn Played in various places. I that that kind of ugly mug I work with at risk kids for the last 10 years