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[Lane]

Craig,

You are obviously knowledgeable about rods and rod building. That is great, and I totally

understand your last post, since I enjoy fly fishing. I can also appreciate a well made and

balanced rod for certain fishing applications. You need to realize that there are quite a few

YOUNG members on this forum, and they may or may not understand your informative post.

I am a biologist, and there is PLENTY of misinformation being printed about that subject from

people who should know better. Trashing people by calling them idiots and making references

to drug use will not further your cause. When I post about a subject that I have expertise and

knowledge about, I try to back up my statements by presenting documentation.

As previously stated, Glenn and the mods do a fantastic job of running an informative and CLEAN

forum. NONE of them deserved the harsh statements, and it should be obvious from several of

previous posters that their hard work and dedication is very much appreciated by the members

of this forum. Please show them and the members of this forum respect.

Thanks,

Lane

[BASS fisherman]

Dam!!

Ya take a little nap around here and miss all the good stuff >

I know!  I missed it too.  Man and I thought everyone was talking about me at first.  ;D

[chitwnbass]

I guess it all breaks down to "DELIVERY".  I would of been a epic comedian, funniest jokes in the world but no delivery.  Oh well guess I'll just try my aspirations of being a pro-fisherman.

[SPEEDBEAD.]

INever! In fact, the more knowledgeable the person, the more respectful I expect them to act..

Well Glen, that's me, and it is my major flaw! I am very civil when it comes to the GP, as are the pros you mentioned. But, I am very judgmental of writers and authors, because they are to be an expert or at least be working with an expert. They are not to perpetuate falsehoods and myths, and they are to know the subject matter or working with someone who knows the subject matter, to ensure that their prose is 100% accurate.

They are not to use words like IMPORTANT, without immeditately following through and explaining why it is important. They do not glaze over a very complex topics, as if their audience are 5-year-olds. I hold writers to a much higher level of subject accuracy than I would you, or anyone else. Then I hold website ownership to the same level, because they control what is and is not presented on their website.

You want me to disappear. Say the word, and I will never post here again. It is that easy.

Sir, its very simple. It seems like you need to follow the rules and show some respect or find somewhere else to peddle your knowledge. Bottom line...you, as well as the rest of us, know how to act in this place. If you can't be mature enough to do as asked, maybe you should move on then.  

Like it has been previously posted, the majority of people in here dont know you. If you keep up at this pace, I can't forsee many of them wanting to know you in the future either. I encourage you to step up to the plate, deliver your knowledge in a positive manner and be a productive member of BassResource.com.

Thank You

Wayne

[Troutfisher]

Like it has been previously posted, the majority of people in here dont know you. If you keep up at this pace, I can't forsee many of them wanting to know you in the future either. I encourage you to step up to the plate, deliver your knowledge in a positive manner and be a productive member of BassResource.com.

I have to agree.

Mr. Baugher,

The information you post comes across to me as if you are trying to make yourself seem hugely intellectually stimulating, when on the contrary, you are not succeeding in this manner.  You see, the main reason of fishing for me is to enjoy the time I get doing it.  Fishing isn't all about technical issues such as fishing pole thickness or reel capacity, it's about the time spent on the water, the time spent enjoying nature, the time spent feeling the thrill of catching that bass you've been going after.  When catching a bass seems more like a dull time than a thrill, it is no longer an enjoyable sport, it's a boring job.

[flechero]

You want me to disappear. Say the word, and I will never post here again. It is that easy.

No, that's too easy.

Mr. Baugher,

You're having one heck of a first week! I missed the thread in question and only guess it was yours... but purely based on your responses above this I can see that you fancy yourself as quite an expert. I wish you didn't feel so strongly called to teach us.

I hate to see myths prepetuated

And ladies and gentlemen, I have only stratched the surface, and NO this is not an article, it is a post, and I am typing this off the top of my head, and I have not proofed it.

I can be an arse from time to time, but it is usually when I see myths, misleading information, or flat out falsehoods in articles, because people assume the author is an expert or at least they have talked with an expert and you are getting valid information.

I would only like to ask one favor since you are new here- if you are going to call people out, please check your own facts first. Or at least take better notes when talking to people like Mr. Loomis. (I did see a link to an article in which you interviewed him) There are several errors of "fact" in your post. And since you "hate to see myths prepetuated" I figured I should bring them to your attention. Would you kindly care to share the formula of line diameter to guide sizes? Would you share how the lure size ranges are actually figured? Would you like to tell us what the industry standard sizes are for monofiliment? Would you please tell me how line slap will "could result in premature failure of the guide inserts"? And I would also like to know how fewer guides can cause line twist and increase friction?

Talk about a case of "sudden expertism"

Thank God I have on my old boots today.

I hold writers to a much higher level of subject accuracy than I would you, or anyone else. Then I hold website ownership to the same level, because they control what is and is not presented on their website.

Yes, and I am holding you to your own standard... accuracy? you sir, did not miss the mark, you missed the entire target!

As for ownership of an open forum being held responsible to check content... get real, you are as bad in two days as I have seen here in 2 years. And as long as "experts" like yourself can post without being censored or proofed, there will be occasional errors or "myths" presented as fact.

I think you have "NWGA-itice"

On second thought, maybe you should bail out... from what I've seen so far, I'm sure you are dearly missed at the old forum you came from. ;D ;D

[Fisher of Men]

Like Avid, I missed out on the actual post and like others, am glad I didn't stir up such a stink.

Craig,

I don't know what you said in your post, and, admittingly, all of us can get full of ourselves sometime and become overbearing at times. But keep in mind that most of us aren't "Outdoor Writers". We are all just fishermen who share with one another what we know. Sometimes "what we know" is only based on our experience and may not be applicable to someone else. If you were criticizing a real "Writer" (one who has articles appearing in magazines, etc.) then that's one thing, but if you were criticizing posters just like myself, that's another. And, furthermore, there are ways to criticize one's ability rather than calling them an "idiot".

I, too, applaud Glenn and the mods for keeping this THE BEST fishing web forum on the net. You guys can't imagine what a stress relief this is for me.

God bless,

Fisher

[Daniel My Brother]

Craig,

I just bought a new 10 foot pole. I think it's got the right number of guides, but I'm not sure if I should use it to touch this thread.

Your thoughts?

Dan

PS Stick around, I'm enjoying this too much.

[SPEEDBEAD.]

Craig,

I just bought a new 10 foot pole. I think it's got the right number of guides, but I'm not sure if I should use it to touch this thread.

Your thoughts?

Dan

PS Stick around, I'm enjoying this too much.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Blue Collar Comedy Tour....LOOK OUT!!  We could make some serious money with the material in this post.

Seriously, Craig. I think you get the point from the masses. We like to fish, we like to joke around and I hope it is crystal clear that we have RESPECT for the others on this forum.

Ya get what ya give....

Wayne

[RoLo]

SPEEDBEAD #30, Troutfisher #31 and flechero #32,

Three back-to-back posts that delivered the goods without any pussyfooting

Roger

[nboucher]

Craig, I saw the post and cringed. As the editor of a magazine, I know where you're coming from. I mark up manuscripts that way all the time. However, it would irresponsible of me to publish the manuscript with all my comments on it, as you in effect did. You served as that author's editor without having the opportunity to address your comments directly to the author, and as a writer yourself, I'm sure you would hate to see that done to your work in a place where so many can see it (unless you think your work is without flaws, of course). I think you would have been better advised to send that to one of the forum's moderators. As was once written somewhere, do unto others as you would have done to you.

[Bass Smacker]

 My head hurts  :'(

I jusy want to take this moment to let Glenn and all invalved with running this sight to say

 Thank You for running a sight that i can tell my freinds about and not have to worry about bad langwage or condisending attatuds (or slames about spelling  )

 

   

[Craig_Baugher]

On second thought, maybe you should bail out... from what I've seen so far, I'm sure you are dearly missed at the old forum you came from. ;D ;D

You are so off base it is funny. . . not really. . . it's sad...

Oh, well... I'm out of here . . .

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

As sad as running away from addressing the questions at hand? I think not.

Flechero is merely giving you a chance to prove yourself. He's called your bluff and leaving the forum now is the same as saying, "I fold". Funny though, considering the circumstances of how this all began by your posting negatively of the articles here due to their lack of fact or accurateness,it seems almost poetic that you now want to leave when your work is put under the same microscope. (run on sentence, I know, let it go)

If that's what you're about, so be it.

[Craig_Baugher]

As sad as running away from addressing the questions at hand? I think not.

Flechero is merely giving you a chance to prove yourself. He's called your bluff and leaving the forum now is the same as saying, "I fold". Funny though, considering the circumstances of how this all began by your posting negatively of the articles here due to their lack of fact or accurateness,it seems almost poetic that you now want to hide when your work is put under the same microscope. (run on sentence, I know, let it go)

If that's what you're about, so be it.

yep . . .   Want me to prove him wrong, $850 for 800 words, $1250 for 1,200, contact my agent

[Siebert Outdoors]

Dam!!

Ya take a little nap around here and miss all the good stuff >

Yeah I know what ya mean.  I actually do some work for once and miss out on something.  Thats what i get for working. ;D

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

yep . . .   Want me to prove him wrong, $850 for 800 words, $1250 for 1,200, contact my agent

Oh please,.... ;D

So you just wanted to come here and call people out so you can charge $850 to follow up your accusations?

Even if you could write, I wouldn't do business with someone of your character.

Now, RW has defended you in our mod forum, saying this type of "attack" mode is not your MO. He said you've always been a stand up guy, even helping others with the sport.

I have read every word you have written (please don't bill me) and have yet to see the person he described.

As for your agent, he must be cringing at your public unprofessionalism right about now.

[senile1]

I missed the original comments that led to this thread also.  Craig, I don't know if you're still reading this thread.  I'm not going to pile on here.  I think you can see that expressing respect for one another on this forum is paramount.  I still believe you could contribute a great deal of information to this forum, but I hope you can understand that whatever level of knowledge any of us have truly attained, it doesn't make the denigration of another person's post acceptable, even if that post possibly contains incorrect information.  I'm more than willing to have you as a contributor here and I'm sure others are as well.  I think I am speaking for everyone here when I say that nobody expects you to agree with every post that is made.  We just ask that you disagree respectfully.  Is that too much to ask?

[Valascus]

Apparently it was, senile. Just let him go guys. Fact of the matter is, he shot himself in the foot as far as being part of our family goes. We don't need a person here who expresses their feeling on a subject so poorly. If that's how he does things then we aren't losing anything. I am usually all for second chances and forgiveness, but not only do I think you crossed the line with your post on the author, I think you barreled over it with nary a care of your blatant disrespect. Good riddance. YOUR kind are not needed here.

[Dirk_Jig---Lure]

yep . . . Want me to prove him wrong, $850 for 800 words, $1250 for 1,200, contact my agent

Lol

$1/ per word

$50 for a bus ticket when he can't produce them!    

Where's the beef?

[Gatorbassman]

yep . . . Want me to prove him wrong, $850 for 800 words, $1250 for 1,200, contact my agent

Lol

$1/ per word

$50 for a bus ticket when he can't produce them!

Where's the beef?

Is there a blue moon tonight? Dirk just posted something!!!!!

[SPEEDBEAD.]

All is now right with the bass fishing universe...GREAT POST TURTLE!!!  LOL

[Matt Fly]

Did I miss anything?    

[Zel]

So which one is Rosie and which one is the Donald?

[Dirk_Jig---Lure]

Is there a blue moon tonight? Dirk just posted something!!!!!

Ha ha, I'm at Russes for lunch, he showed me this one to read and had to log on and contribute,lol.

Hey guys!

Matt_Fly- funny stuff, popcorn, pull up a seat,haha