justfishin Posted December 15, 2006 Posted December 15, 2006 I use something up here I call the double whammy,lol. I am sure you all have used it as well but, maybe some have not. I do not like to dropshot but, some of our lakes in Western Maryland are gin clear and call for this technique at times. Instead of using just a weight I put on a gitzit on the sinker end, usually a leadhead or if it is grassy I will T-rig it. This has worked well for me especially for clear water lake smallies. Ever tried it? Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted December 15, 2006 Super User Posted December 15, 2006 I've been experiementing with the "Bubba Drop Shot" (jig for a weight) for the last couple months. I like it so far. Quote
Shad_Master Posted December 15, 2006 Posted December 15, 2006 I also recently talked with a guy who is using a jig as sort of a C-rig presetation with a lizard or brush hog as a follower lure and has been having good luck. He said most of his bites come on the jig. Quote
Deuceu72 Posted December 15, 2006 Posted December 15, 2006 This is something I have done for a while. Why use one bait when you can use two! I usually put either a jig or a tube as the drop-shot "weight" and use a panic minnow up the line. This has worked very well for me. ;D Quote
Tucson Posted December 15, 2006 Posted December 15, 2006 Now that you've pointed this technique out, it seems so obvious. Why didn't I think it up on my own? Too busy following protocol I guess! Quote
bassnleo Posted December 15, 2006 Posted December 15, 2006 I frequently fish with a drop shot and also frequently with a tube. I love both techniques for deeper structure. I tried the 2 bait technique, tube on the bottom, and did not like it. I just don't get the feel of the bottom with a tube on the end as opposed to a drop shot weight. The whole rig just felt too mushy to me. Quote
phisher_d Posted December 16, 2006 Posted December 16, 2006 I also use both techniques a lot (separately), and I've tried putting them together but didn't like it. When I fish a tube I use a pretty hard hookset, but for a dropshot I just lift and reel. With both on the line you can't tell which is getting bit so you don't really know how to set the hook. Also I found the that a tube hangs up way more than a plain sinker, and they're more of a pain to tie on. Quote
Painter Dude Posted December 17, 2006 Posted December 17, 2006 I like the concept of the drop shot for the fact that when you get hung up they seperate themselves much easier than say a jig, tube,bell sinker,etc. that has been tied on, and are easily and more economically replaced. : Quote
Garnet Posted December 17, 2006 Posted December 17, 2006 I worked this system. The problem in my area is 2 4 lb Smallies at the same time doesn't work so I moved on. Garnet Quote
earthworm77 Posted December 17, 2006 Posted December 17, 2006 Does anyone think that setting the hook hard might result in a broken line due to the palomar knot for the top bait? Quote
Garnet Posted December 17, 2006 Posted December 17, 2006 I use the owner Mosgito hook on top and hooks set hard with no problem. I lossed a tourney by hooking 2 smallies about 4 lbs and had it happen several times fun fishing. I even tired 14 lb on a baitcaster they still broke the line so no more of that crap. Garnet Quote
justfishin Posted December 18, 2006 Author Posted December 18, 2006 Garnett--- Two four pound smallies at the same time would give you a problem,lol. Not a bad problem to have though. Evidently you were on the them,lol. Earthworm 77--- I trust the Palomar knot but, that is a good question. Really you have a Palomar with a long tag, right? I have to think about that. I wish I could get a few of those double fours so I could check this scenario out more,lol. Quote
FIN-S-R Posted December 18, 2006 Posted December 18, 2006 Palomar on FC is a lost fish waiting to happen. I have gone to the improved "clinche" or "cinch" for just about everything I throw. On a drop shot you have a nice big knot to pull through the hook eye so that the hook stands out really good with this knot. The california is also a good knot for light FC, but it takes about a year to tie and about 2 to figure out how to tie. I lost 3 keepers on the hookset in the span of about 10 min during 1 tourney this spring thanks to the good ol' 100% knot strength palomar. It doesnt seem to be a problem with mono, but there is somethin' about overlappin' a certain loop or somthin' with the palomar that will make it snap or get pinched and break with FC. And not to derail the thread, i have used the jigin' drop shot for a couple of years now, and it seems to be real effective for post spawners, but havent had much luck otherwise. Quote
justfishin Posted December 18, 2006 Author Posted December 18, 2006 I have never had a problem with the palomar as of yet. I have never used a cinch knot either. I think I will look into this more. I just started with the dropshot a couple of years ago and do not use it very oftern but, it has worked well for me in gin clear water. I usually run my loop through the eye twice when I tie my hook on my DS rig using a palomar and let about a 8" tag end. Thanks, I will check it out. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted December 19, 2006 BassResource.com Administrator Posted December 19, 2006 I've been using this technique for many years. Works pretty good. I've even doubled a few times. I've never had a line break at the knot - but standard practices apply (check your line often, use sharp hooks, set your drag properly, have a rod with a lot of give, etc). Quote
links_man2 Posted December 24, 2006 Posted December 24, 2006 Saw a feature on Bass Univ a while back in which Aaron Martins uses a Uni-Knot for drop shot hooks. Ties the Uni with doubled line that was passed through the hook eye, then passes the tag in down through the top of the hook eye to keep it upright. I tried it and seems to work, at least have not had the knot break and the hook stays upright properly. Biggest problem is getting the doubled line through the hook eye on smaller #1 & #2 hooks I use for drop shotting. Quote
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