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Everytime that 25.1 has been caught at Dixon it has become that much smarter.  They may not catch her again.  If they do, I would bet that it'll be during the spawn and no other time.  I believe California is the state but I have my doubts about next year.  I think Roger is correct about Cuba being too far South.  

  • Super User
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Only if Amistad can keep lake levels up for 7-10 years straight.

I cut my teeth on Amistad in the sixties.      All the fish that came from there the last two seasons were there, But you didn't see the result pour in until she finally filled up in late 2004.

Same can be said about Falcon and Choke Canyon filling in 2004, those fish weren't just stocked, nor did they grow that big in two seasons, yet the results of tourneys in the past showed some good fish, but the stringers weren't even half as close to what they have been the last 2 years.

Lakes that get 40-60 ft low are supposed to be easier as some say skinny water makes it easier to locate.

I think stressed conditions put those fish into survival mode deep.     The influx of having banks  that have had growth for 5-10 years has put new cover and provided a face lift to an old lake or lakes was the ticket.

I believe Amistad will break its own record within the next couple of years again, how close to the Texas record?  Don't know, but alot will have to happen to approach 20 lbs.

Matt.

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all those in favor of banning the phrase "git-r-done" from the forums say "aye"

You don't really want to get rid of Bama's national language do ya?  ;D

  • Super User
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I would guess Cali also in the next year or two.I'm hoping that either Fish-Chris,Mattlures or Capt Cali will bring home the prize!Get-r-done fellas!

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I would guess Cali also in the next year or two.I'm hoping that either Fish-Chris,Mattlures or Capt Cali will bring home the prize!Get-r-done fellas!

We should all get a personal photo of it if one of them do.

  • Super User
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Largemouth bass that live and grow nearest the 'equator' typically enjoy rapid growth and a year-round growing season.

As a result, bass waters in the lowest reaches of their range normally produce impressive numbers of trophy-class bass.

There's a world of difference however, between trophy-class bass and world-class bass. To produce a world-class bass

over 15 pounds, the ecosystem must provide PERFECT conditions. Rapid growth must be supported in two ways,

it must be accompanied by a prolonged growing season AND it must offer the bass a prolonged lifespan.

The only bass that stands a chance of setting the new world-record will be a freak bass growing in world-class waters.

Bass living in Cuba and southern Mexico provide two out of the three prerequisites, but do not provide an extended longevity.

Similar to plant species, every species of fish has a confined range where the most magnificent specimens may be had.

Plant specimens found to the north of their ideal range may be suppressed by hard frosts, and those found to the south

of their ideal range may lack the necessary chill-hours. The same is true for largemouth bass, and those living

in the southern extremities of their range, tend to die prematurely of metabolic exhaustion, commonly called thermal burnout.

The St. Johns River in Florida around latitude N30 degrees is clearly within the world-class bass-belt.

The river stretch near Green Cove Springs, FL has yielded innumerable bass over 15 pounds and two uncertified bass over 18 lbs.

Now if you travel just 200 miles south to Lake Okeechobee, Florida you will be below the optimal range for world-class bass,

probably on par with northern California, which is too far north (the opposite problem). The Big-O is a 720-square mile

Fish Factory, but the odds of boating a 15-pound bass would be much better on Lake Fork, Texas, despite it's northerly latitude.

For several decades, the lake-record on Lake Okeechobee sat unchallenged at 13.5 lb. It was finally broken by one bass

weighing 15-lb, 5 oz. With regard to a new world-record bass, it's my opinion that the probabilities wane progressively

as you travel south of central Florida and also wane progressively as you travel north of south Georgia.

From left to right (west to east) that would embrace southern California, Texas, northern Florida and southern Georgia.

For various reasons, I'm really not expecting the world-record bass to be broken any time soon.

Roger

  • Super User
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I would really like to see Bob Crupi make a comeback. He was so close and everything was legit.

Crupi was remarkable, and a legend in his own time.

But I don't believe he can make a comeback without Castaic Lake doing the same.

Roger

  • Super User
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fourbizzles gotta chance too!

LOL, putting aside the fact that I suck, I don't fish any water that is likely to produce a WR. Of all the lakes that I fish, the biggest fish caught have been 18lbs. It is possible though not very probable to grow larger fish in our slightly cooler climate. I don't fish any lakes much farther south than San Jose. Cuba does have a REAL good chance. There have been some really good fish caught down there. Only problem is that they were caught using an illegal type of bait, If I remember correctly.

  • Super User
Posted
I would guess Cali also in the next year or two.I'm hoping that either Fish-Chris,Mattlures or Capt Cali will bring home the prize!Get-r-done fellas!

We should all get a personal photo of it if one of them do.

Make that an autographed personal photo with one of the scales off the beast stuck to it.

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fourbizzles gotta chance too!

LOL, putting aside the fact that I suck, I don't fish any water that is likely to produce a WR. Of all the lakes that I fish, the biggest fish caught have been 18lbs. It is possible though not very probable to grow larger fish in our slightly cooler climate. I don't fish any lakes much farther south than San Jose. Cuba does have a REAL good chance. There have been some really good fish caught down there. Only problem is that they were caught using an illegal type of bait, If I remember correctly.

awww..... :'( you Pooor thing, you.. 18? thats it? i think someone needs some warm milk

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Fourbizzle is right..... to a certain degree. When you look at the numbers, So Cal has produced more than a dozen bass over 20 lbs. While Nor Cal hasn't produced a dozen over 18, and never a "certified" 19.

On the other hand, So cal had never produced a 23 or a 24, then, it kicks out a 25.1 !

So anyway, anything is possible, but the odds lean heavily towards So Cal.

Peace,

Fish

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it's hard to think that the current wr will hold much longer.

SoCal is ready to bust it.

  • Super User
Posted

That one fish has been caught more than once, and the life of that fish can't be much longer.

No body else is coming close to hitting 20 lbs.     The current record has been with standing for ages.       I'd say that because of last year, that Dixon may have added pressure that could keep her hidden this year.   I bet the gates are full every day from mid Feb till the end of spawn.   People see easy $$$$$$$ with breaking the WR, makes people do weird things.

She may never be seen or caught again.    Who knows?  

Mexico's resoviors have caught some water the past few years and the teens that are being reported just shows that when the deeper lakes maintains levels, they start showing up again.       Mexico has an 19 pound record, and those lakes don't even see half the pressure that the US trophy waters recieve.  

Matt.

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I think SoCal has a pretty good chance of dethroning George Perry's "World Record". Not only does it offer the prerequisites Roger outlined, it also offers an excellent food source packed with protein to help grow these monsters. TROUT! I don't care what state or who breaks the record as long as it is legit and it stays in North America.

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