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I dunno what you call these in English... I think it's just a big wild goldfish... But there are tons of them in the pond. They swim in groups of 10 to 30 and they swim slow.... and They are 12 to 15in big... We call them "Funa" in Japan. They get in the way.

I was wondering if this fish is considered forage to bass. I've read this type of fish contains stuff that destroys the vitamin in ya body, so predatory fish don't eat these much.  I wonder if the bass care about vitamins  ;D

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I just found out what they were. "Crucian Carp". Whatever they are called, they smell bad and I'm still wondering if they make up primary forage in the pond...

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I'm not sure as to the specific differences in strains of goldfish, but I know that common "feeder" goldfish (like the one you'd get at a carnival for getting a ring on a milk bottle) won't cause problems for bass.  When my neighbor and I started stocking our pond, we threw a bunch of those little buggers in there for the bass to feed on.  Since then, I have only seen 5 or 6 goldfish out of the hundreds we put in, and since there are still plenty of bass in the pond, I can only assume that the bass ate them and have not suffered for it.  Like I said, though, different species of carp may very well be problematic.  So, in a nutshell, I guess I can't really help ya...  :o

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Nearly all of our West coast lales are full of wild strain Goldfish, and the common Carp. I'm sure that Largemouths eat the heck out of the smaller ones, but they would be illegal as bait, pretty much anywhere in Cali.

On the other hand, here in my home Delta waters, wild Goldfish are thick, and are an excellent live bait for Stripers.... and fully legal, as long as you can get them from the same waters (the latter is the tough part).

Peace,

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I just found out what they were. "Crucian Carp". Whatever they are called, they smell bad and I'm still wondering if they make up primary forage in the pond...

i'm sure big bass will snack on the small ones, although once they get over 12" the bass probaly leave them alone.

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Thanks guys!!!! I'm still trying to figure out what the primary forage is in a little pond (again...) I've only seen about 5 bluegill ever, and they were already fully grown up. I don't believe they are there in numbers high enough to feed the hunger... The rest of the fish are Koi (Common Carp) and the Crucian Carp.  Too big for the bass to eat.

Would it be possible for the bass to live by feeding on insects only??

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You would be surprised at the size of baitfish a bass can eat. Maybe that is why you have only seen a few adult sized bluegills in your lake.

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the best way to find out is to catch a smaller speiciman and use it as bait.  If this is legal in your area, you will know soon enough if the bass like to eat them.

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If the bass don't eat them the catfish will. Live goldfish are prime bait for big catfish in many parts of the country.

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I sall a few pictures of what your talking about before. They look a little boney But im sure they have some models of them for lures. Im sure bass would pig out on a few of them esspecially scicne they are in schools

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Good idea to use it as live bait. But the guys that go after this fish are going to complain :P Heck these smelly fish have a bigger crowd than Bass in Japan.

I saw a huge topwater that looked just like one of these and I started wondering if they ate them.

Thnx for the input!!

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If it appears to be an easy meal and will fit in the bass' mouth, it will eat it. That's how they roll.

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Good idea to use it as live bait. But the guys that go after this fish are going to complain :P Heck these smelly fish have a bigger crowd than Bass in Japan.

I saw a huge topwater that looked just like one of these and I started wondering if they ate them.

Thnx for the input!!

Then you use this. (Guessing that this is a funa on what you said)

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