NJ pond fishing

[Dylcook91]

Hi,

I'm am new here to Bassresource and have a couple of qustions. I used to know some stuff about fishing for LM but over time forgot it all.

I havent been fishing In 5 years, so three days ago I found all my gear and decided to go fishing the next morning. I live fairly close to a pond that is not that big and not to deep but a good size.And you can see a couple of feet down in the water. So anyhow the next morning I went fishing and after a few casts I caught a decent sized LM. Then after a couple more casts I caught a 1.5 foot LM that was about 5 pounds, then when I had the fish out off the water the fish got out off my hands with the lure in its mouth. The line broke and it swam off with my spinner. Ever since then I have not been able to get even a bite.

Then I went back the following morning and again did not get anything using a 3/8 spinner and then another fishermen came up with a buzz bait and on his second cast landed a 6 pounder, and I had nothing.

I fish from the side of the pond and its only cover is lots of weeds coming from the bottom and trees hanging over the water, there are also lots of small fish. I have only ever caught LM with spinner baits and have seen them caught with buzz bait. One time there was a guy that came when I was fishing and I was not getting anything, on his first cast he caught a LM that was around 12-14 pounds.

I have tryed plastics but never get any thing so the only thing I use is spinner baits that are 3/8 and fish them fast or slow. I would like to start getting some fish and start using a wider range of lures. Is there anyone with tips on what and how to use stuff that will work in this pond?

The gear I use are:

10 pound test line

yellow with white spinner bait- 3/8

Have tried plastic Creme worms texes style but never get anything.

Tsunami swim baits-and get noting

My pole is a 6'6" Bionic Blade. And a bait casting reel - Abu Garcia-ambassadeur 46003.

Sorry for my mistake wording and spelling I'm about to pass out.

[Chris at Tech]

Well, like it or not, you should add soft plastics to the arsenal

I used to be EXACTLY like that as well.  Just had no desired to fish soft plastics since it was just so slow.  But there's no denying that they catch fish.

Anyway, here's a few suggestions:

1) Zoom trick worms -- a green/brown type color, and a dark color (junebug, black, purple)

2) Zoom finesse worms -- same colors as above.  This is just a smaller version of the worm above.

These can be fished in a variety of ways.  With a jighead, Texas style weighted or weightless, splitshot.

3) 5" Senkos -- watermelon or green pumpkin

Either Texas rig this one weightless, or wacky rig it.  Look around for some more specifics on wacky rigging.  

4) Zoom Super Flukes -- get a green/brown color and a baitfish color.

As far as the tackle to fish these, I'd recommend a pack of 2/0 and 3/0 EWG hooks -- these are usable for any of the presentations above.  Also, get yourself some 1/16, 1/8 and 3/16 oz worm weights for the Texas rigs.  Lastly, get some 1/16, 1/8 and 3/16 'bull shot' sinkers for splitshotting.

Also, try getting yourself a floating Rapala minnow.

[roadwarrior]

USAF-16

You are way off on the size of those fish.

Nobody caught a 12-14 lb bass, the State Record is 10 lb 14 oz caught in 1980.

[Chris at Tech]

Yeah, I saw that too.  I just assumed he meant inches, not pounds

[Dylcook91]

USAF-16

You are way off on the size of those fish.

Nobody caught a 12-14 lb bass, the State Record is 10 lb 14 oz caught in 1980.

Yeah it was late last night and I was thinking of a different time. Although the bass was huge, it was one of the biggest I'v seen. I remember the man saying that it was 9 pounds.

Thanks for all the info.

Dylan

[Bassassasin12]

I noticed the same thing I couldn't believe 12-14 pound fish came outta NJ. It was probablly a big fish, but not that big.

[Sam]

Do you think it was a dead body?

Just kidding.

This is a great site and you will learn a lot.

Welcome aboard and have fun.

[Chris at Tech]

Do you think it was a dead body?

Just kidding.

This is a great site and you will learn a lot.

Welcome aboard and have fun.

No, no.  I grew up in NJ.  The bodies go in the ocean, not ponds

[Dylcook91]

Ok so I went fishing this afternoon using noting but plastic worms and other soft plastic baits, and didn't get a bite. My problem with the worms is I can't get it out far enough to the over-hanging trees or out the middle where I get stuff with the spinners. When I cast a worm it lands not far from me and when I use spinner I can get them very far out. But with the worm I use 3/8 bullet weights and the spinner is also 3/8 so why cant I get it far?

Also I use T-riged worms and wacky, and I know you have to fish them slow

but since I cant get tem out far it doesn't feel as if I have them in the water long enough. How long do you think each cast should be out in the water?

[ChrisW]

US, you have to use a bullet weight for plastics worms if you are having problems getting it out far enough. Also, go with the senkos, they are super easy to fish.  The action happens when you simply cast the bait, once it hits bottom, all you have to do is tip the rod a bit for the worm to go back into action.  

The senkos are great if you are casting is heavy cover or weeds, you just have to Texas rig them.  You can go with the wacky rig in less vegetated waters.

[Dylcook91]

US, you have to use a bullet weight for plastics worms if you are having problems getting it out far enough. Also, go with the senkos, they are super easy to fish. The action happens when you simply cast the bait, once it hits bottom, all you have to do is tip the rod a bit for the worm to go back into action.

The senkos are great if you are casting is heavy cover or weeds, you just have to Texas rig them. You can go with the wacky rig in less vegetated waters.

I was using bullet weights but still couldn't get them out to were they had to be. I'll try getting senkos tomorrow morning, and then go test them out and see how they do.

thanks for the help.

Dylan

[Sam]

Do you know how to roll your rod tip underhand to cast?

You have the bait hang about 6 inches from the tip of the pole and then make a circle using your wrist and having the rod tip wasit high sending the bait out into the water.

Practice it at home before trying it at the pond.

The underhand roll cast is great to use to get under brush and trees.

Just a little flick of your wrist works wonders.

[Dylcook91]

Thanks for the tip, I'v been testing it out and wanted to know if you hold the rod strait out and roll the lure, or if you hold the rod to the side. I can get it to go farther when I hold it to the side.