jeronimo Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 do i need heavy wire hooks for fish over 8lbs or am i just setting the hook too hard? i caught a bunch of freshwater drum on the week end and i kept straightening my hooks . is my drag just too tight ? Quote
Low_Budget_Hooker Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Go with the heavier guage hook. Stop taking steroids lol Quote
CJ Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 If you are targeting drums go with a heavier hook.Drums have a thicker,tougher mouth than do largemouth bass.I have never had a big largemouth straighten my lightwire hooks(not saying they couldn't). Quote
Low_Budget_Hooker Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 We have had fish as small as 4 lbs straighten thne hook on terminator finesse jigs. Those are actually more of a medium wire, the light wire stuff doesn't stand a chance. Quote
CJ Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 We have had fish as small as 4 lbs straighten thne hook on terminator finesse jigs. Those are actually more of a medium wire, the light wire stuff doesn't stand a chance. When I said lightwire I was probally refering to a medium wire.About the same guage as a 5/0 worm hook. Quote
jeronimo Posted June 20, 2006 Author Posted June 20, 2006 the hooks i am using are mustad 3/0. i didnt know there were diferent wire sizes until last night when i heard someone say heavy wire hook on tv. Quote
jeronimo Posted June 20, 2006 Author Posted June 20, 2006 If you are targeting drums go with a heavier hook.Drums have a thicker,tougher mouth than do largemouth bass.I have never had a big largemouth straighten my lightwire hooks(not saying they couldn't). i wasnt realy targeting them but i found a school of them and they are quite fun to catch. they pull like a freight train. Quote
russ0101 Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 i think i got a bad batch of mustad hooks a while back, i couldnt keep them straight after catchin a fish... switched to gamatsku (however you spell it) and my personal favorite Owner Hooks... Quote
Super User RoLo Posted June 21, 2006 Super User Posted June 21, 2006 With regard to the 'wire size' of hooks, I believe that fishermen often move in the wrong direction. Back in 1979 I visited a Shark Seminar in New Jersey hosted by Pete Barrett, Al Ristori and a few other local gurus. It seemed that every speaker that night held up a heavy wire hook that had been straightened by a shark. I didn't say anything that evening at the seminar, for fear of making waves and sounding like a young upstart. Regardless, I felt that all the speakers were moving in the wrong direction. I believe that their hooks opened at the bend for the simple reason that they were never set home "beyond the barb". This is a common occurence when using heavy wire hooks. Even when using a heavy wire hook, you cannot play a 300 lb shark on the End Of The Hook Point without opening up the hook-bend. If the fellows had moved to lighter wire instead of heavier wire I believe they would have improved the odds of getting the flesh into the bend of the hook. Once the hook is set beyond the barb and the flesh of the fish is resting in the bend-of-the-hook, the line-of-pull is parallel to the hook-shank. Bend your index finger into the letter "C" so it resembles a fish-hook. Now, if I hook my thumb underneath the tip of your index finger, I should be able to pry your finger open now matter how hard you resist. On the other hand, suppose you and I both form a letter "C" with our index fingers and hook them both together at the bend of our fingers. We could pull with all our might, but someone's index finger will be dislocated before either index finger will open up at the bend of the hook. My two cents. Roger Quote
BD Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 Okay, wow brother....I saved that pic to the desktop to further view that baby!!! %^&*%#^&!$^!^ lol What did she weigh??? (sorry for the off topic post, but you guys HAVE to see his smallie!!) Quote
jeronimo Posted June 21, 2006 Author Posted June 21, 2006 My lord, is that a smallie in your photo? yup its a smallie. she weighed 5lbs 1oz.caught it on a green-pumpkin hulla-grub. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 I agree with everyone else, you need a heavier wire hook. Quote
Biglouie Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 I'm not sure, Rolo's argument seems valid when I think about it too???? Why not try it both ways? I know Gamakatsu makes a heavier hook for braided line's, I think it's called something like super line hooks. They are heavier dutier than the standard hooks. Why not try both ways and let us know what happens. Quote
volpster31 Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 man that bass sure looks bigger than 5.1 .... :o must have been a hell of a fight....... Quote
bassnleo Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 Man, I agree, I've caught 6 lb smallies on Lake Erie that didn't look that big. What a TANK! Quote
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