POLL-Berkeley Gulp Ad

[senile1]

My answer was neither, but with caveats.  What has always offended me regarding commercials like this is that it is an insult to my intelligence.  It's the same with movies.  If a sexual scene doesn't add to the story line in a movie, it doesn't need to be there.  It is just gratuitous.  I'm sure all of us like sex as much as the next guy, but there is a time and a place for it to be exposed.  

The ad in BasssMaster didn't bother me that much, but I have to ask, "Does Berkley think I'm stupid enough to buy their product because of this ad?"  Are they targeting women or those with "alternative lifesyles", and if so, do they think women are so shallow they will buy their product due to this ad?  Also, is this something I want my kids to see?  It's not showing anything, but what message does it send to them about what is acceptable standards of conduct?

[sodaksker]

Fly,

Point taken.

[-Drums-]

If Salma Hayek was in the ad naked, I might change my mind.

AMEN.

Salma Hayek is good for my soul.

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I think some folks need to take a deep breath and then have a root beer or cream soda or something...

I tell you I am the MOST over protective Father of 2 daughters you have EVER seen... TRUST ME.. I AM.. hahahaha anyways here is how I look at it...

from birth to 7 the kids are young enough to see stuff like that ad and not understand it.. and if they do ask you can deflect with that is two guys being silly trying to sell something.. and leave it at that... THEN after they go to school... do you REALLY think that what is on that AD will effect them more than the kindergarten kid calling the teacher a *****? IT HAPPENS!!! How about when you go to Burger King and the 4 teenage boys are 10 feet way trying to be a "gangsta" and saying MFing this and MFing that every other word out of their mouth... THAT happens too... Do I think the ad is cool? *shrug* its advertising... its about Gulp being "natural" not about sex... SHEESH!!! Try to stop being so close minded... heck my daugher came home and was talking about BOB... and when I looked at her.. she explained to me what it means... talk about SHOCKED... she is 13... so no matter how much we shelter our kids.. I would rather them learn it at home than on the streets... so no an AD in a magazine doesn't upset me.. the other stuff does

just my .02c worth

AL

[goldenmonkey]

doesnt bother me, its more of a dumb ad than offensive.

now if it was two naked chicks out there on a boat I might consider their products the next time I go to bass pro shops

[KU_Bassmaster.]

its advertising... its about Gulp being "natural" not about sex... SHEESH!!!

Exactly!!!! At no time does that ad say anything about sex.  We are the ones that automatically relate an assumed naked body to sex.

[senile1]

its advertising... its about Gulp being "natural" not about sex... SHEESH!!!

Exactly!!!! At no time does that ad say anything about sex.  We are the ones that automatically relate an assumed naked body to sex.

I agree with KU_B and SFC_AL.  I don't see anything sexual in this ad.  As I said in an earlier post, though, companies who use inferred nudity, inferred sex, etc.  assume that we are idots and that this is going to sell some of us on their products.  There are much worse things that our children see and hear.  Fortunately my daughters are 20 and 17 so this isn't a big deal.  (Funny, though, I worry about them now more than ever.)

SFC_AL said:

Try to stop being so close minded

SFC_AL, I think alot of the guys who don't like this aren't necessarily close-minded.  There are guys on this site who are old enough to have seen the desensitization of our population to many things that were once offensive, but are now accepted.  People can dislike something and still defend your right to say it and do it.  That is called freedom.  For instance, I don't like the degrading manner in which women are described in gangsta rap, but I defend the artist's right to produce what they wish.  I just don't have to listen to it or buy it.  It isn't close-minded to say I don't like it, just as it isn't close-minded if someone tells me they don't like my boat or the music I listen to.  It becomes close-minded when you prohibit someone from doing something.  I'm sure there are things you don't like.  Does that make you close-minded?  It's a preference, not a closed mind.  

[Shad_Master]

I wonder why more people are upset about this commercial than they are about that annoying Evinrude commercial where the guy's clothes fly off and he is wearing a pink thong?  Could it be Ike?  It couldn't be Skeet.

[K_Mac]

SFC_AL

I only have one daughter who is grown with 3 kids of her own now, but can relate to the "over-protecting" thing. When she started dating I always told any young man who came to pick her up that when she was with him I held him responsible for everything that happened to her. It was fun to see how they reacted and it made the point. With your military background you'll be even more intimidating than I was. Maybe you can wear a side arm when they show up... ;)Good luck with that. BTW I'm as clueless as you were about the "BOB" thing. I guess I must be getting old.

Now as far as the ad is concerned, whether or not it is about sex really isn't the point as far as I'm concerned. I just think it is completely inappropriate. I agree that we are exposed to things all the time that are offensive. Some of those things we have control of, others we don't. I once confronted a table full of teenage boys MFing at the table next to me and my family. I was completely out-gunned but they shut up. My point is, sometimes we can make a difference if we are willing to take a stand.

As to being "close minded," I'm not sure what that means. If that means that after thinking something through, I have to come to same conclusion as someone else then I am guilty as charged. I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else, just my opinion.

Kirby

[papa smurf]

I think Berkley should have put a coulple of guys that look like Denny Brauer in the commercial.  Now that would have been funny.  

[K_Mac]

For the sake of full disclosuer, here is the e-mail I just recieved from Berkley. I still find the ad offensive, but their response certainly is not.

Thank you for contacting us regarding our recent Berkley Gulp! advertising. Please be aware that we respect your opinions and that we are sorry the ad offended you. Certainly that was not our intent. Rather, we were trying to explain to anglers, in a lighthearted way, that our new Gulp! product is made of all-natural material, unlike all the other plastic soft baits on the market today.

Sincerely,

Your friends at Berkley

Berkley Customer Service

1900 18th St

Spirit Lake, IA 51360

1-800-237-5539

[Brian_Reeves]

The offensive part of the commercial is that they are trying to sell GULP!  I hate GULP!

[Matt Fly]

It is good to see so many parents concerned on what their child is seeing.     I would also agree that we can't shield our kids from other "playground kids" who have witnessed a little bit of everything.    With that being said, the morals our kids value are learned and demonstrated at home which should enforce right from wrong.

Being a parent in the 80's and up sure changed from what my parents concerns were about.     Good luck, and I can see from the type of members we have, there are some good parenting and supervision going on in America still.

Hookem

Matt

[jb_from_texas]

I didnt find it offensive or really that funny.  BUT, it shows the slippery slope we are on as a society.  This commercial doesnt bother some, maybe not most folks, but what is next?

I'm not that old but i bet they were having the same conversations about similar things, generations before us/me. Now those "offensive" things then seem quite innocent now.

I know, I sound like an old fart, but it really is numbing our kid's morals.

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thank to everyone for being CIVIL about this discussion.. does the heart good to see....

OK maybe "close minded" was a poor way to word it... all I mean is some folks get things stuck in their craw and that is how it is.. no matter what you say or how you try to explain it to them with reason that is the way it is... period end of conversation   thats all I intended to say... and y'all are right... freedom to express ones self IS a wonderful thing... and I will defend to my death that right...  while lets hope it doesn't come to that though...  

ANYWAYS hahahaha another thing to note... ever notice how every generation they say BACK WHEN I WAS A KID... and THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL IN A HANDBASKET... its true think about it hahahaha its just human nature...

with us its Back when I went to Basic.. hahahahahaha

hope this clears a few of my comments up

AL

[MHH]

It didn't really offend me, but if I had kids watching with me it might be a different story.  I agree wtih the slippery slope argument, but the question becomes at what point to you start to slide down the hill?

[AM]

here we go walking the fine line of political corectness on this board again. let me remind those of you that are offended that IT IS ONLY A F^#%^&* COMERCIAL . If you don't like it don't watch it. really insignificant in the midst of things. but an interesting poll none the less.

[Valen]

The commercial is not offensive, it's humans in thier natural state...not even showing the so called "offensive parts."  Parents should teach thier kids that nudity is not a big deal and is natural instead of saying "Nudity is bad, nudity leads to sex which is also bad."  Instead of teaching kids the differences these days it seems parents are more inclined to just label something as inappropriate or bad and move on, while the kids still are curious about the matter and go learn it on thier own with skewed views.

For the people that mentioned gangsta rap corrupting thier youth I can't help but laugh.  I've listened to "gangsta" (lol since when is all rap gangsta rap?) rap since I was 10 years old and was taught the difference between MUSIC aka ENTERTAINMENT and real life.  Just because someone raps about crack cocaine doesn't mean I am gonna go try it, why not you ask? because I knew better and knew it was just lyrics in a song that mean absolutely nothing.  It's up to parents to teach thier kids stuff like this because rap is here to stay and you can't force your children to listen to certain kinds of music, music is one of those things everyone has a different opinion on.  Tell your kids that these guys are just saying these things because it's what sells, they are entertainers just like any other musician and are doing it to make a living and make money, not to corrupt your youth or to get them to do drugs and join gangs.

Sorry but I get irritated when parents put the blame on outside influences corrupting thier children when it's the parents job to teach them right from wrong in the first place.  These are just my opinions, if I offended anyone (which seems pretty easy to do lately seeing as people blow things way out of proportion) I apologize.

[janalon]

The add is for the WBT, get it?

I hear no one complaning about the girl that has been aged in the swimsuit, she is showing a lot more than the gulp add.

Let's get over it, bass fishing is not just for us.

Or you.

[KYbass1276]

here we go walking the fine line of political corectness on this board again. let me remind those of you that are offended that IT IS ONLY A F^#%^&* COMERCIAL . If you don't like it don't watch it. really insignificant in the midst of things. but an interesting poll none the less.

 

Wow tell us how you really feel

[cgs2004]

I don't see anything offensive in it, like others said, there are hundreds of worse commercials out there.  I thought it was a pretty lame comical ad but I've seen lamer ones, I did think the older guy at the end jigging a bait up and down in a fish tank was pretty funny ;D

[janalon]

Oh, but they must watch it and make their comments, less their sport stolen from them.

Do you chew?

Goodness no? well you can't fish for bass.

Hmmm, maybe they are holding up snook?

Is it the fish or the men, the add or the mag?

Maybe it is the fact that they are not females?

Well they should be.

Can I get another amen?

Silly males fishing for bass, don't they know this sport belongs to those going to hell in a hand basket!

Ok, I will stop.

[cgs2004]

I would have enjoyed it more if they used WBT pro's instead ;D

[janalon]

I would have to agree with you there.

Makes me want to shake.

[PBAngler]

I found it funny at first but it is getting old.