biteme Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Ive been told that if you dont fish in the evening or the morning theres no point in fishing. That you cant catch fish in the mid day. Is this true? Whats your thoughts? Quote
Super User Raul Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 Ive been told that if you dont fish in the evening or the morning theres no point in fishing. That you cant catch fish in the mid day. Is this true? Absurd. Quote
Deuceu72 Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 I'm gonna have to agree with Raul.........Thats a completely false statement. I've had tournaments where I didnt start catching keepers until 11 or 12........The biggest bass I have ever caught was 9 lbs @ 2:30 pm. when the temp was about 95 degrees. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 All but one of my biggest largemouth bass have been caught between 10:00 AM and 3:00 PM. Pretty much the same story with smallmouth, too. I think the only reason some people have better luck in low light conditions is that bigger bass sometimes come in shallow to feed at these times. If all you fish is shallow water, then that might be the case. Quote
langs15 Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 All but one of my biggest largemouth bass have been caught between 10:00 AM and 3:00 PM. Pretty much the same story with smallmouth, too. I think the only reason some people have better luck in low light conditions is that bigger bass sometimes come in shallow to feed at these times. If all you fish is shallow water, then that might be the case. That's the truth. Fishing all day is a real fishermans dream..and then the real world comes in to play...damnit Quote
Guest ouachitabassangler Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 This time of year our boat ramps are full and if you don't park by 5 am you'll walk half a mile back to the boat. So I call a ranger to check on parking status, sometimes going as late as 11 am when the lot is usually emptied. I meet folks coming out "Ain't bitin, yer too late." Baloney. Most of my fishing is mid day or nights. I won't get in line to fish the lake, so wait until I have it to myself. If most of those guys come out complaining about no bass in the lake and I catch em, who's out there at the right or wrong time? I think a lot of it is simple attitude. If a guy sits there convincing himself the bass are extinct, he'll probably do poorly or make himself a liar to himself. I go out there intending to catch bass and usually do just that. But I also figure if you are boat #45 fishing a laydown tomorrow morning it isn't likely you'll get a bite there. The first one there gets the best bite, then it's a bummer from then on. So I let the bass rest an hour and they are ready to bite wherever I go. When I come back in the ramp is full again, everyone getting back in that fishing line.... Jim Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 Granted, there is usually a good bite during the so-called "Magic Hours", (first hour and last hour of light). Biologists will tell you that the eyesight of gamefish adjusts more rapidly to light change than the vision of prey fish (Nature's gift to predators). Accordingly, gamefish (e.g. bass) will exploit their visionary advantage during twilight periods (dawn, dusk & overcast days). The problem is, the magic hours are separated by about 12 hours, and bass eat more frequently than that, especially in water over 70 degrees. I share the exact same experience that Roadwarrior described. The overwhelming majority of bigmouth I've caught over 6lb and smallmouth over 4lb have fallen during mid-day (10am to 4pm). Oddly enough, that's the same time-of-day when ultraviolet rays are most intense. Is there something to that? Roger Quote
biteme Posted May 24, 2006 Author Posted May 24, 2006 Glad I posted this. Im going fishing! Time to find a new spot! Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 Glad I posted this. Im going fishing! Time to find a new spot! ;D You're a bright fellow. Quote
Captain Cali Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Now the question for you that catch bigger fish from 10am to 4pm. Does cloud cover have anything to do with your success? Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 Now the question for you that catch bigger fish from 10am to 4pm. Does cloud cover have anything to do with your success? A resounding 'no'. In all but one case (Dale Hollow Res), it was during fair, sunny, bluebird weather and typically with minimal wind (weather to die for). Roger Quote
Super User senile1 Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 Good question from the Captain. I've found that there are other conditions in addition to cloud cover that affect mid-day fishing, because I've caught some monster bass and some monster numbers during sunny mid-days. I've also caught nothing under the same light conditions. If a few days of cool weather lowers the water temperature and then a warm sunny day comes along, by early afternoon the water is starting to warm in some areas and I've had a bass bonanza under these conditions. If it's been hot, then some cloud cover is definitely going to help. I think it depends what kind of weather has occurred previously. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 If it's been hot, then some cloud cover is definitely going to help. I think it depends what kind of weather has occurred previously. That is essentially true, but with serious reservations. The most productive week of my life with smallmouth bass (Lake Huron, Ontario in July) took place during the most stable weather conditions you could ever imagine. The barometer remained relatively stable for our entire 10-day vacation. There wasn't a drop of rain, not even one cumulo nimbus formed, and every day was just another disgustingly beautiful day. The smallie fishing got hotter and hotter as the week passed on. The lodge owner was ecstatic, and told my wife & I that frankly, he's never seen smallies like that before. I've also noticed on countless occasions, that largemouth bass grow increasingly aggressive after back-to-back bluebird days (warming water increases their metabolism). Bigmouth bass tend to rise higher up in the weedbed and grow increasingly aggressive with several consecutive days of stable weather (spinnerbait time). After a cold-front moves through, they're sent to the bottom where the cycle starts all over again. Roger Quote
Toddn76 Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Anytime is a good time to fish! You know what they say a bad day on the water is better then a good day at work! ;D Quote
Super User Raul Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 I 'm also one of those guys that catches his big fish in the middle of the day when the rest of the people are looking for a shade to chill down. It 's great to catch big mommas at 110-120° under the blazing sun. Quote
Randall Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Today there were no clouds in the shy and 90 degrees at mid day in 30 minutes we caught seven fish and had a big Hawg hit a topwater so hard it came a foot out of the water. Its all about knowing how to adjust to the conditions. That was half of our fish for the day even though we started at sunrise. It can be the best time to fish. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 I 'm also one of those guys that catches his big fish in the middle of the day when the rest of the people are looking for a shade to chill down. It 's great to catch big mommas at 110-120° under the blazing sun. Don't forget, I'm still waiting for that invite to Lake El Salto. Like I told you, I'll provide all the minnows and sunscreen. Roger Quote
-Drums- Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Glad I posted this. Im going fishing! Time to find a new spot! Or, same spot, different tactics. Either way, go for it! That's the great thing about fishing, you've got nothing to lose....well except your wallet (to the Baitmonkey) of course...doh! Quote
Super User Raul Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 Who cares about El Salto when you 've got Lake Baccarac in the same state Roger ? Mexico 's record, a 19.2 behemoth came from it 's waters, nowhere else in the world with the exception of Cali fish get that big and there have been reports from recreational divers that there are even bigger fish. And no minners pleez, I 'm an artficial lure only fisherman. Call me stubborn but I won 't touch live bait, not even for saltwater fishing where it is common to use live bait. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 The minnow part was only a joke. I live on lake Weohyakapka, a water that is literally world-famous for its bass fishing with live-minnows. The next minnow I dunk in Lake Weohyakapka will be my first. Not to hijack this thread, but is Lake Baccarac presently considered the best Mexican water? Better than El Salto, Huites & Guerrero? Roger Quote
Super User Raul Posted May 24, 2006 Super User Posted May 24, 2006 Bacurato ( Baccarac ) produces the biggest, El Salto produces the most; Huites and Guerrero produce lots of fish in the 8-11 pound class Roger. Speaking in terms of quality, if I wanted to plan a trip for a lake where I may not catch many but I would catch fish in the teens ( high teens ) Bacurato would be my number 1 choice. If I had the itch to catch me a 10 pounder like many american anglers do ( those who have never caught a 10 pounder ) then I would seriously consider El Salto. The catch with those lakes is to plan the trip at the right moment of the year, February and March are the months to catch a bigun, another time of the year is around late June-early July, that 's when the lakes are at medium pool and most of the cover is visible. Quote
langs15 Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Mhm.....one day I may have to plan a trip to ones of those waters..... Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 25, 2006 Super User Posted May 25, 2006 Bacurato ( Baccarac ) produces the biggest, El Salto produces the most; Huites and Guerrero produce lots of fish in the 8-11 pound class Roger. Speaking in terms of quality, if I wanted to plan a trip for a lake where I may not catch many but I would catch fish in the teens ( high teens ) Bacurato would be my number 1 choice. If I had the itch to catch me a 10 pounder like many american anglers do ( those who have never caught a 10 pounder ) then I would seriously consider El Salto. The catch with those lakes is to plan the trip at the right moment of the year, February and March are the months to catch a bigun, another time of the year is around late June-early July, that 's when the lakes are at medium pool and most of the cover is visible. Thanks Raul, I appreciate the information. Roger Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted May 25, 2006 Super User Posted May 25, 2006 I like the 12-3pm time for catching monster bass. Lots of hawgs are caught at that time of the day. Raul, If I come dragging up, you gonna get me on one of those teens? Hookem Matt Quote
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