Nicky Greece Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Well you've discovered a big secret - they DON'T catch bass. It's just a sales ploy to get your money. Same thing with Senko's. So I'm willing to help out any members with these worthless lures by disposing of them for you. No need to thank me, just a little service for my fellow bassers. ;D ;D ;D ;D Quote
Jnamo Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 If you get KVD's dvd/video or book and do exactly what he says, you have to catch fish. I am totally perplexed by this. As you can probably tell I love spinnerbaits and use them in ultra clear water with a lot of success. I have been to BASS U. and heard KVD's spinnerbait/jerkbait lecture and if you listen to what he says it is pretty much the same thing in his books. There really is not much of a secret here. VYRON is on the right track and gave you some good advice and a place to start. Wow, 28,000 casts? Maybe the one guy was right, try tying the bait to the line?! 28,000 casts??? :o Good luck-Jeff P.S. the bait on the left is the same one that is in fishy fishy's mouth. They do work, something ain't goin right? 28,000 casts????? Quote
KenDammit28 Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 If you've read the articles and are still having to ask for what to do at a specific time for specific conditions after making TEN THOUSAND casts, then you should probably read the articles again. The information is obviously not soaking in. Change things up, switch blade types, sizes, speed of retrieve, skirt color, on and on.....but if you're still having trouble knowing what to do..then keep reading until you "get it". Spinnerbaits have been around for forever, and theres a reason why....they catch fish. specific tips, sunny days..use silver blades, overcast days-silver or painted, really cloudy/low light-copper or gold clear water - willowleaf, dingy/stained water - willows, indiana, or small colorado's, muddy/murky/dark water - colorado colors are usually matching forage of the particular lake..but on some occasions the color really has to stand out. White, Chartreuse, White/Chartreuse...the most common colors probably used by anyone that owns spinnerbaits. In clear water, try using baits that have a smaller profile and ones that are of natural color patterns. Quote
basser89 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 I know for myself in super clear water I can not catch bass on a spinnerbait for nothing Hey Chris, This one (in the 01 color) works well for me in super clear water! http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=37065&hvarDept=100&hvarEvent=&hvarClassCode=6&hvarSubCode=1&hvarTarget=browse I usually don't, but I trim the skirt down on these and run it pretty fast. Quote
janalon Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 I lived in most of my life Georgia, Spinner Baits was the GO GET THEM bait, it is all we used in middle Georgia. Now I am in th pan handle of Florida and for 3 years I have only caught 2 fish on a spinner bait. My GO GET THEM baits are plastic creatures and worms. Funny thing about it is that there are people here in the pan handle that swear by them. Quote
redboat Posted April 3, 2006 Author Posted April 3, 2006 Ok, well, I promised I'd tell y'all how the Sam Rayburn trip and resulting spinner bait experiment went. Wife an I drove down early Saturday moning, stayed at Twin Dykes campground near the dam. Nice place, never did find out about those sisters it was named after but its nice to know gay people can get campsites named after 'em someplace other than California. Saturday we launched around 2 PM. I rigged three lures: A small chartruse spinner, a stickbait, and a red Rat-L-Trap. My intent was to alternate between all three, see which worked. Wife fished her usual pumpkin wacky worm. I personally find pumpkin wacky worms boring - throw 'em in the water, set the hook, pull the fish in the boat, repeat. Over and over all day long. Man that is a honkin' big lake! The new boat ran just fine, all the electronics worked well. Water was about 62 degrees, 64 in places. Seemed like a lotta wind but it was so open down at the South end it probably seemed windier than it was. After about two hours the wife had hooked a couple of 1 pounders, I felt a hit on the spinner, set the hook - it was a good sized (13") striper. I'd hooked him in the left gill. At first I thought I'd snagged him then I realized he musta struck the colorado and willow leaf spinners. When I set the hook I pulled it into his gill, so I guess that counts. So now it's like, 10,214 spinner casts, 1 bass. I was "slow rolling" the spinner along the bottom at the time, thanks to the fella who suggested I try that. Nothing else happened that day, the stick and Rat-L-Trap came up empty. Sunday we slept in until probably 8:30, courtesy of the guys in the next campsite who liked Alice Cooper up really loud at 1 AM. Went back to the spot I caught the striper and Wife caught her black bass. This time I had a Pop-R, watermellon Zellamander, and a red french fry I picked up on the 99 cent bargain table at Bass Pro. I had my plastics texas rigged. Well, long story short, in about an hour we hooked several more nice black bass, wife and I both. The Pop-R didn't produce but we were a little late for that. Zellamander and red french fry both worked about equally well although I hadda keep replacing the french fry; the zellamander didn't wear out or tear the whole time. Wind was beating us up pretty well by then so we cruised over to the lee side of the cove. I was tired of catching fish anyway so I switched to a white tube. After a bit of this we put the rods up and cruised over several coves, mapped out some structure and other promising spots. Headed in at noon, packed up and drove home. I think Chris mentioned spinners aren't good in clear water; the water was as clear as any I'd ever seen in any Texas lake. We could see the bottom in 5 feet of water. Probably not a good test, and I DID in fact hook one fish with the spinner. Not as productive as plastics, but all in all probably not a good spinner bait day. All of the fish we caught on plastics were in 2 to 4 feet , on the windy side of the cove. Those were all caught within about an hour of each other. The spinner fish I hooked in 15 feet, right at a drop off about 50 feet off shore. Wife's wacky worm worked in both places. Overall I'd say I'm not ready to dump my spinners in the lake just yet, although I don't believe they're nearly as productive as plastics. Sam Rayburn is a great lake, really pretty down there. Hopefully some of y'all will go; let me know how you do, what worked, what didn't. And if anybody finds out about them two twin sisters let me know that too, I'm really curious now! Quote
redboat Posted April 3, 2006 Author Posted April 3, 2006 Well you've discovered a big secret - they DON'T catch bass. It's just a sales ploy to get your money. Same thing with Senko's. So I'm willing to help out any members with these worthless lures by disposing of them for you. No need to thank me, just a little service for my fellow bassers. ;D Honestly I don't know whether they do or not, which is why I started this thread. Seems like a lotta folks think they don't, others say they do. Since some of the folks who say spinners catch fish have pitchers (Being from Texas, 'pitchers' are fellas who throw baseballs, what you put the sweet tea in, and them foldy things that come outta Walgreens after you drop off your film) of bass they've caught on spinners its hard to dispute the fact that some people catch fish on spinner baits. I will say this: Go down to Bass Pro, look around. 90% of the baits you see there won't catch a fish, but they'll catch a fisherman. And I'm not just talkin' about spinners Quote
Rattletrap Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 There's no way dude. 10,000-20,000 casts??? You need to quit fishing in your cement pond(pool), and start fishing a real lake that has bass in it. Quote
hendrix190 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Here we go again, bass season in full swing. I've been dusting off all my spinner baits, rerigging the trailer hooks, getting the Unk Josh's rinds ready. Problem is - I've never caught anything on a spinnerbait. I once lived on Lake Hamilton in Arkansas. Spinnerbaits are fun; I'd go throw them for an hour or two whenever I was down to the lake (which was in my back yard). Threw 'em from banks, from bass boats, from jon boats. Slow rolled 'em, fast burned 'em. Used flourocarbon, braid, mono. I'd estimate I've owned about 500 spinnerbaits over the years, tandem blade, single blade. Colorado blades. Willow blades. All colors. All combinations. I'd say I've made probably 10,000 casts of spinnerbaits. Never got a hit, never caught a fish. I've probably seen other anglers throw 20,000 more. Never saw any of THEM catch anything either. So my question is: Has anyone actually ever caught a fish on a spinnerbait, or are they just for catching fishermen at Bass Pro? Should I pitch all my spinnerbaits in the lake and feed the Unk Josh's to the neighbor's dog and stick to cranks and plastics? Or is there some magic solution, like, I need to stand on my head while pointing the rod tip at the full moon and hum the theme song from "Bonanza" while slow rolling a chartreuse and pink spinner bait with three willow and two colorado blades past lilly pads? Need less to say spinners are not a confidence bait for me! " any body ever caught a bass on a spinnerbait?' dude asking that is like asking if anyone has ever hit a baseball with a baseball bat while they were playing baseball.......... spinnerbaits are like one of the most popular bass lures ever, and they are for a reason its not just all hype.. if u wanna be a complete fishermen and be prepared for every possible fishing situation u need to learn how to use every lure, not just a few u have alot of confidence in.. i know its hard to sit there and countiue to throw a lure that u havent gotten any success with and dont beleive u ever will, but once u catch a few on it, u might get alittle bit of confidence in the lure. maybe u should try using a spinner bait in a lot of different lakes or rivers or whatever, im sure the fish will bite it somewheres. Quote
Rattletrap Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 This combination below will catch bass anywhere: BTW, You can always send me all those Non-bass catchin' Spinnerbaits you own. I'll take them nasty things off your hands free of charge. ;D Quote
Rattlinrogue Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 This combination below will catch bass anywhere: BTW, You can always send me all those Non-bass catchin' Spinnerbaits you own. I'll take them nasty things off your hands free of charge. ;D Strike King Bleeding Bait Series.Yes sir,It WILL catch bass.That exact bait is my #1 spinnerbait. Quote
mgmoore7 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 I read this whole thread since I really thought that this must be a joke. Who would buy 500 of a type of lure that had not caught anything at all. Who would cast 10,000 times without catching a fish. That is grounds to quit fishing altogether. For over 15 years, spinner baits have been my number one producing lure and I basically stick to a few colors and have probably purchased less than 75 in those 15 years. Now, I don't fish everyday and in those 15 years, some years I have not fished much but others I have fished alot.... Also, lets break down the #'s: 10,000 casts (we will forget the other 10 or 20k that others have not caught any either...????) let's use average of 25 seconds per cast (probably low esitmate) 10000 x 20 = 250,000 seconds 200,000 / 60 = 4,166 minutes 4,166 / 60 = 69.4 hours Conclusion = 69.4 hours spent fishing on spinnerbaits alone and no fish. ????? I think I would have just given up on that bait after 10 hours and stopped buying them too. 500 purchased spinner baits let's use average of 2.75 per bait (probably low too) 500 x 2.75 = $1,375 Conclusion = why would anyone spend this much on lures that had not produced a single fish? "I personally find pumpkin wacky worms boring - throw 'em in the water, set the hook, pull the fish in the boat, repeat. Over and over all day long. " Isn't the point of fishing to catch fish however you can and as many as you can. This is how the pros win. They find a pattern and stick to it. If I am pulling fish in like that sentence implies, I would be bragging to all my friends how good of a day it was not how boring it was. I am still baffled. Quote
Rattletrap Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 There had to be a lot of hours put into fishing a few Spinnerbaits before 500 Spinnerbaits were bought. If you are not catching anything on the first 10 you bought. Why would you buy 490 more? :-? Quote
KenDammit28 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 mgmoore, that line kind of caught my eye, as well. Seems kind of odd that a person so desperate to catch fish wouldn't use something thats producing fish like he's implying. Another thing I noticed about his story is that he tried one spinnerbait, for the entire day. I dunno, everything sounds a bit "fishy" about these posts, to me. Quote
Hula Popper Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 I love Terminator spinnerbaits. Also, I don't know if this count, but a Beetle Spin will almost always catch one. Quote
gatrboy53 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 to catch fish on any bait you have to develop confidence,even if you arent catching fish on it.if you dont have any confidence in a s.b. i wouldnt throw it.it does catch fish though. Quote
mike90 Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 I will say this: Go down to Bass Pro, look around. 90% of the baits you see there won't catch a fish, but they'll catch a fisherman. And I'm not just talkin' about spinners hmm that is funny, i would say if i could fish everyday of the year or at least 3 or 4 a week i am willing to bet i will catch fish with those 90% of baits you wont buy, and i am not even that good of a fisherman some of the guys here may catch fish on all of those baits. there are some baits out there that are more made to catch fisherman then fish but 90%?? maybe 1% or 2% of the baits wont catch fish. also i think you said you got tired of catching fish so you moved on and fished a tube? wow....maybe you should have tied on the spinnerbait and let her rip. most of the time when i go fishing my main objective is to catch fish. also i am still baffeled 500 spinnerbaits?? you are either not very smart, rich or both. spinnerbaits are my main bait that i fish and i do catch a lot of fish on them. i think i have maybe 40 spinnerbaits altogether but if i was someone who never caught a fish on one i may buy 5 or 6 of them and when i dont catch anything put them in the box and buy baits you catch fish on. and i should mention they aren't cheap. for a good soild spinnerbait you are looking at least $4 and the normall probally around $6. or you can go to wal-mart and get the $1.50 and catch lots of fish but they wont last as long as others. how about this- you send me all those spinnerbaits and ill send you pictures of the fish i catch with them Quote
Bassbum80 Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 If your luck with spinners continues, I will make you an offer before you throw them in the lake! Quote
redboat Posted April 4, 2006 Author Posted April 4, 2006 Also, lets break down the #'s: 10,000 casts (we will forget the other 10 or 20k that others have not caught any either...????) let's use average of 25 seconds per cast (probably low esitmate) 10000 x 20 = 250,000 seconds 200,000 / 60 = 4,166 minutes 4,166 / 60 = 69.4 hours Conclusion = 69.4 hours spent fishing on spinnerbaits alone and no fish. ????? I think I would have just given up on that bait after 10 hours and stopped buying them too. Hey, thats some pretty good cyperin' Mr Wizard! I think when my welfare check comes in I'll let you balance my checkbook. Lets break it down another way: I'm 58 years old, have been fishin' since I was about 5. Didn't start throwin' spinners until I was 12 or 13, though; still my Wally World calculator says thats just about 45 years. Now, 69.4 hours over 45 years is less than 2 hours a year throwin' spinners. And don't forget I lived on a lake for 15 of those years. 500 purchased spinner baits let's use average of 2.75 per bait (probably low too) 500 x 2.75 = $1,375 Well, yeah - IF you were buying all 500 at Bass Pro today. In the sixties - when gas was 20 cents a gallon - spinners didn't cost $2.75. And you can get 'em at Academy for less than 2 bucks a pop as someone pointed out a few posts back (guess you didn't READ that one). I've probably spent about $500 over the years on spinners, which isn't much when you factor in the $40,000 bass boat I just bought - 8 fish so far which works out to about $5000 each. Conclusion = why would anyone spend this much on lures that had not produced a single fish? Partly because I was young and stupid. Partly because spinners are a lotta fun to throw, even though they don't produce for me. Anyways, you never answered the original question - have YOU ever caught anything on a spinner? Or are you saying you haven't thrown 'em 10,000 times yet? As for the rest of you naysayers - I suggest you READ the posts in this thread. There are folks other than me who haven't gotten spinners to produce, as well as others who have. To those people who offerred advice I sincerely thank you, I'll try some of your suggestions. To the people with pithcers of fish they've caught on spinners I say, nice fish! To the rest I say...Well, lets just let that'n go... Quote
Guest avid Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 I apologize for my earlier sarcastic comment. I admit that I thought this post was a joke and so treated it as such. I now see that you are serious and so you deserve better. I do not have the success with spinnerbaits that others enjoy. But yes, I have caught and continue to catch bass with them. I find that gold blades work best in my stained water. Skirt color doesn't seem to matter as much blade color/configuration. If your not meeting with success I would go back to the basics. A 1/4 oz. single colorado blade in white, and another in black. Get one each in Chrome blade and gold blade. thats 4 baits total. Get a name brand. Look for trees overhanging the lake, or wood blowdowns. Also try throwning it right up on the bank and "popping" it into the water. Good luck and have fun. Quote
mgmoore7 Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 Also, lets break down the #'s: 10,000 casts (we will forget the other 10 or 20k that others have not caught any either...????) let's use average of 25 seconds per cast (probably low esitmate) 10000 x 20 = 250,000 seconds 200,000 / 60 = 4,166 minutes 4,166 / 60 = 69.4 hours Conclusion = 69.4 hours spent fishing on spinnerbaits alone and no fish. ????? I think I would have just given up on that bait after 10 hours and stopped buying them too. Hey, thats some pretty good cyperin' Mr Wizard! I think when my welfare check comes in I'll let you balance my checkbook. Lets break it down another way: I'm 58 years old, have been fishin' since I was about 5. Didn't start throwin' spinners until I was 12 or 13, though; still my Wally World calculator says thats just about 45 years. Now, 69.4 hours over 45 years is less than 2 hours a year throwin' spinners. And don't forget I lived on a lake for 15 of those years. 500 purchased spinner baits let's use average of 2.75 per bait (probably low too) 500 x 2.75 = $1,375 Well, yeah - IF you were buying all 500 at Bass Pro today. In the sixties - when gas was 20 cents a gallon - spinners didn't cost $2.75. And you can get 'em at Academy for less than 2 bucks a pop as someone pointed out a few posts back (guess you didn't READ that one). I've probably spent about $500 over the years on spinners, which isn't much when you factor in the $40,000 bass boat I just bought - 8 fish so far which works out to about $5000 each. Conclusion = why would anyone spend this much on lures that had not produced a single fish? Partly because I was young and stupid. Partly because spinners are a lotta fun to throw, even though they don't produce for me. Anyways, you never answered the original question - have YOU ever caught anything on a spinner? Or are you saying you haven't thrown 'em 10,000 times yet? As for the rest of you naysayers - I suggest you READ the posts in this thread. There are folks other than me who haven't gotten spinners to produce, as well as others who have. To those people who offerred advice I sincerely thank you, I'll try some of your suggestions. To the people with pithcers of fish they've caught on spinners I say, nice fish! To the rest I say...Well, lets just let that'n go... Well, if you read my post I said "spinner baits have been my number one producing lure " I said an "average" of $2.75. I know they can be bought cheaper and I did read post. See... you never said that you have been fishing for that many years and trying spinners over all those years and I still find it hard to believe that you would even spend $500 but that really does not matter I guess. You do make a valid point that can be applied to many hobbies. If we calculate the cost based on things such as # of fish for the cost of the boat we would never buy the boat. I like the guys who a few weeks ago (possible world record from a rented aluminum boat) dispelled all the thoughts that it takes a 40k bass boat to catch fish. I will agree with Avid as well, that this is not a joke any longer. I have caught most of my spinner bait fish on a white double colorado blade. I caught a 5lb 6oz in January on one. It is the one in my signature. Quote
bassindude Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 Just had to jump in here. This is the best thread EVER!!! I've never laughed this much reading on line. PLEASE!!! nobody tell KVD that spinnerbaits don't catch bass. He'll be devistated. :'( And yes I am one of the lucky ones that have caught fish on a spinnerbait, but I have spent days without so much as a bump, but that's because some days I stink at locating fish. I'd bet that some days everyone here stinks at locating fish. Here's a thought, try a search bait like O say a spinnerbait. You can fish them fast, you can fish them slow, in open water, and up in the trash, you can fish them in the trees, try them try them Sam you'll see. ;D The versitility of a spinner bait is un-matched IMO. Quote
hendrix190 Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 Also, lets break down the #'s: 10,000 casts (we will forget the other 10 or 20k that others have not caught any either...????) let's use average of 25 seconds per cast (probably low esitmate) 10000 x 20 = 250,000 seconds 200,000 / 60 = 4,166 minutes 4,166 / 60 = 69.4 hours Conclusion = 69.4 hours spent fishing on spinnerbaits alone and no fish. ????? I think I would have just given up on that bait after 10 hours and stopped buying them too. Hey, thats some pretty good cyperin' Mr Wizard! I think when my welfare check comes in I'll let you balance my checkbook. Lets break it down another way: I'm 58 years old, have been fishin' since I was about 5. Didn't start throwin' spinners until I was 12 or 13, though; still my Wally World calculator says thats just about 45 years. Now, 69.4 hours over 45 years is less than 2 hours a year throwin' spinners. And don't forget I lived on a lake for 15 of those years. 500 purchased spinner baits let's use average of 2.75 per bait (probably low too) 500 x 2.75 = $1,375 Well, yeah - IF you were buying all 500 at Bass Pro today. In the sixties - when gas was 20 cents a gallon - spinners didn't cost $2.75. And you can get 'em at Academy for less than 2 bucks a pop as someone pointed out a few posts back (guess you didn't READ that one). I've probably spent about $500 over the years on spinners, which isn't much when you factor in the $40,000 bass boat I just bought - 8 fish so far which works out to about $5000 each. Conclusion = why would anyone spend this much on lures that had not produced a single fish? Partly because I was young and stupid. Partly because spinners are a lotta fun to throw, even though they don't produce for me. Anyways, you never answered the original question - have YOU ever caught anything on a spinner? Or are you saying you haven't thrown 'em 10,000 times yet? As for the rest of you naysayers - I suggest you READ the posts in this thread. There are folks other than me who haven't gotten spinners to produce, as well as others who have. To those people who offerred advice I sincerely thank you, I'll try some of your suggestions. To the people with pithcers of fish they've caught on spinners I say, nice fish! To the rest I say...Well, lets just let that'n go... ok since when has the goal of fishing been to have fun casting a bait and reeling it back, i have always thought the goal of fishing was to catch fish???? now if ur casting a bait and reeling it back in with the intentions of actually trying to catch a fish and not just having fun throwing and reeling the bait back then that is understandable.. i just dont understand y a person would want to use a bait that they have no intentions of tryin to catch fish on but rather just enjoy useing a lure that they think they have no chance of catching anything on..... if this is the case then ur not really fishing at all, just casting and retreive a lure, and u mine as well just cut the hook off of the lure, since the hook might snag a log or something and ruin ur fun of casting and retreiveing, or better yet just cast and retreive in a swimming pool where u are sure not to get hung up on anything Quote
KYbass1276 Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 Yes I have caught fish on spinnerbaits. My suggestion is take nothing but spinnerbaits with you and use them until you get your confidence built up with them if you are really serious about catching fish with them Quote
Ikaika Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 While I've caught a bundle of fish on spinnerbaits myself, I have buddies who cannot for the life of them catch a fish with spinnerbaits. Give them anything else and they do just fine, but spinnerbaits just don't produce for some folks or on certain bodies of water. Pscarbor, there is a lot of good info in this thread...fishing and not catching can be really frustrating, so hopefully your spinnerbait luck improves in the near future Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.