Super User roadwarrior Posted March 21, 2006 Super User Posted March 21, 2006 An official for the International Game Fish Association said today that the 25 -pound 1-ounce bass caught by Mac Weakley will get consideration as The World Record! Quote
Super User KU_Bassmaster. Posted March 21, 2006 Super User Posted March 21, 2006 The old record has tons of controversy, why not the NEW one!!!! ;D Although the new one would have much less to do with the fish and more with the technicalities of how it was caught. Quote
Vermonster Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 So that means they will look over all the evidence, correct???? I've never applied for a record, so I am not sure on the lingo.... Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted March 21, 2006 Super User Posted March 21, 2006 Even if foul hooked? http://www.escondido.org/glance/lakes/dixon/index.html Scroll down till you hit world record bass and see the inside article posted by the lake itself. Or click the other one for the story. http://www.escondido.org/glance/lakes/dixon/record-bass.pdf Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted March 21, 2006 Super User Posted March 21, 2006 Does the IGFA say anywhere, "that all state laws must be observed to be credited? Because its against Ca. law to obtain a fish that wasn't caught in the mouth. They should have gotten cited for not releasing the fish immediately. Quote
grahamb Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Does the IGFA say anywhere, "that all state laws must be observed to be credited? Because its against Ca. law to obtain a fish that wasn't caught in the mouth. They should have gotten cited for not releasing the fish immediately. Yes, local laws must be followed. But the way you say it, if I'm throwing a lure and accidentally snag a fish, I just broke a law? I'd guess that CA law says that it is illegal to intentionally foul hook/snag, and any fish that is accidentally foul hooked must be released...which is why these guys couldn't keep the fish to have it officially weighed. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted March 21, 2006 Super User Posted March 21, 2006 The law is broken once you retain the fish. Quote
Valascus Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Im didn't realize that they had used a digital scale to weigh the fish. The rules in the IGFA concerning the certification of a digital scale are really rough. They may have trouble getting that scale certified. The IGFA themselves recommend against using a digital scale. Quote
Valascus Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Is the law broken as soon as you remove the foul hook and retain the fish in order to take some video and pics and then release it...or is it broken if you don't release the foul hooked fish at all? Quote
Vermonster Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 The law is broken once you retain the fish. But what is considered "retention" Matt???? If you go by the law, the technically did release the fish, just after weighing it. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted March 21, 2006 Super User Posted March 21, 2006 You might get by with a picture, but putting a stringer on the fish shows retention or putting a fish in the livewell would be considered retention. Lake Fork has a slot inplace on the lake, 16-24 inches, if it touches the line at 16", and you keep it, its a fine if caught, if the fish is over the line at 24 inches its okay, touching 24" and not over, not okay.. I have caught fish that went 10 lbs on Fork, but didn't make it over the slot, could I hold this fish and show my buddies at camp, legally no. Or the camera is in the truck, and you go back to get it, retaining that fish is illegal. Quote
Captain Cali Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Yeah...I don't think it's illegal to snap a few pics and weigh the sucker. It's not like you have to unhook the fish and let it go right away. The question is how long did they hold the fish before releasing it. It sounds like not long although rumors are flying like you don't even know. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted March 21, 2006 Super User Posted March 21, 2006 read the article I posted from lake Dixon. Those guys put her on a stringer, thats retention. Quote
Hula Popper Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I read it. I think it is legit, and should be a record. But I don't know any of the laws. Quote
Rattletrap Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Sorry Cali. :-[ If it was not weighed on certified scales and witnessed, it won't count for anything. I can't believe, even if it was foul hooked, that this so called Big Bass hunter did not weigh it on certified scales anyway. That was plum crazy!!! But, it does let you know that a possible WR might be swimming around in Dixon Lake. Keep on fishing Cali boys!!!! Quote
sportmed22 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I think one of the problems foul hooked aside is that we have not seen a picture of the fish hanging from the digital scale with the read out showing 25.1. I would like to hear from a Cal game warden on the interpretation of the law. I think some people are just jealous that someone has broken the record. Give the man props he caught a TANK. Quote
Rattletrap Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 He caught a tank all right, but there is no solid proof that it was a 25lber. He blew his chances of staking that claim. A so-called Big Bass hunter should have known better. It's a big fish. But the photo looks like all the other big bass caught in Cali. No photos, no measurements. That's what's fishy about it. I would have taken some sure measures to prove that I foul hooked and released the new WR. You would think Cali boys would have learned that from George Perry's WR issues. Quote
Captain Cali Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 No need to be sorry rattletrap. We know California has bigger bass than Georgia. We don't need WR status to know that. Sounds like a bit of jealousy to me but I can't blame ya. When was the last 20 pounder caught in Georgia? If my memory is not shot I think it was the bass George W. Perry caught or didn't catch. Give the man his due. Until proven otherwise we have to see this as the biggest largemouth ever caught. PERIOD. Rumors are flying around like no tomorrow. It seems like every hour there is a new rumor. I'm not going to get into that because I'm not about to slander anyone. Everyone knows rumors spread quicker than the truth. Quote
what Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 i haerd that there was a video and people watching the wirgh in and they put it on stringer because the rules say that it has to weighed on land :-? Quote
Rattletrap Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 No need to be sorry rattletrap. We know California has bigger bass than Georgia. We don't need WR status to know that. Sounds like a bit of jealousy to me but I can't blame ya. When was the last 20 pounder caught in Georgia? If my memory is not shot I think it was the bass George W. Perry caught or didn't catch. Give the man his due. Until proven otherwise we have to see this as the biggest largemouth ever caught. PERIOD. Rumors are flying around like no tomorrow. It seems like every hour there is a new rumor. I'm not going to get into that because I'm not about to slander anyone. Everyone knows rumors spread quicker than the truth. No jealousy here. It's just funny how a So-called Cali, Big Bass hunter can make so many mistakes. It's also funny how how George Perry's mistakes don't apply here on this recent catch. It starting to look like an at your convenience thing. A photo and witnesses don't make for a WR these days. BTW. George Perry's WR would not stick in 2006 either. I could show you a photo of a big bass with some witnesses and say it's a 25lber. That won't make it a 25lber or a WR. Quote
buzzbaitfool12 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Sounds like to me the intentionally hooked the fish wrong and the bystanders saw it and they knew they wouldnt get away with it..If they would have been by themselves I guaranteed no controversy,they would be getting paid..there is a difference between catching and hooking a bass intentionally like it sounds to me..If it is accepted as the wr then I bet we will never see that record broken in our lifetime..So far as cali having bigger fish once again if we stocked lakes with trout like you guys do then we would have mighty monsters also..Seems like pumping up is really prevalent in cali..barry bonds and fish..lol Quote
Madhouse27 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 After reading up on things I kind of gathered that they believed the foul hooked aspect of the catch would negate and world record status. They decided to weigh the beast and take a few pics anyway because it was so huge. I was under the impression that they weren't even going to submit it for record status until someone said hold the phone, this thing might be recognized anyway. I'm sure in the craziness of this whole situation it would be easy to make a few bad judgements. I think I would have put it in my livewell and called the game wardens and told them that I don't know what to do. I don't want to break any laws but this might be history in the making please advise me of how to handle this. ITS A MADHOUUUUSSSSE!!! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 22, 2006 Author Super User Posted March 22, 2006 Wait a minute guys. These boys are not slugs, they have been fishing for and catching GIANT bass for years. Maybe they just did what they thought was right. Mac Weakley is not trying to take all the credit, his friends have already caught the same bass, and THEY LET IT GO! Let's see how things shake out. Maybe Mac is a hero and the poster boy for catch and release. Is there something wrong with that? Quote
KYbass1276 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 .So far as cali having bigger fish once again if we stocked lakes with trout like you guys do then we would have mighty monsters also..Seems like pumping up is really prevalent in cali..barry bonds and fish..lol Let's not go down that road agin about stocking trout. That was a long debate on the last post about the wr Quote
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