Rattletrap Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 I wonder how many of these bass are the same bass caught over and over. They also answer a question from the World Record Bass thread. All but one of these lakes are not heavily stocked with trout. If you want bigger bass, you need to stock your lakes with trout. Those trout do a bass good!!!!! That is some good protein. I like them myself. http://www.fishingnetwork.net/top25lmb.htm Quote
Mattlures Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Thats an old list. This one is more curent but still not up to date. Mike Long has another one on it. A 19.2 caught last year. so that makes 3 for him 1 22.25 Montgomery Lake Georgia George Perry 6/2/32 2 22.01 Lake Castaic California Bob Crupi 3/12/91 3 21.75 Lake Castaic California Mike Arujo 3/5/91 4 21.70 Dixon Reservoir California Jed Dickerson 5/31/03 5 21.19 Lake Casitas California Ray Easley 3/4/80 6 21.01 Lake Castaic California Bob Crupi 3/9/90 7 20.94 Lake Miramar California David Zimerlee 6/23/73 8 20.86 Lake Castaic California Leo Torres 2/4/90 9 20.75 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 4/27/01 10 20.25 Lake Hodges California Gene Dupras 5/30/85 10 20.25 Lake Miramar California Johnny Garduno 3/25/90 12 20.13 Big Fish Lake Florida Fritz Friebel May 1923 13 19.88 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 2004 14 19.63 Lake Baccarac Mexico Bruce Knutsen 1/17/93 15 19.50 Lake Miramar California Keith Gunsauls 3/7/88 15 19.50 Lake Casitas California Randy Crabtree 4/9/02 15 19.50 Dixon Reservoir California Mac Weakley 5/20/03 18 19.40 Ikehara Dam Japan Kazuya Shimada 4/22/03 19 19.25 Lake Miramar California Chris Brandt 3/22/98 20 19.19 Lake Wohlford California Steve Beasley 2/3/86 20 19.19 Lake Morena California Ardon Hanline 2/17/87 22 19.06 Lake Miramar California Sandy DeFresco 3/14/88 23 19.04 Lake Castaic California Danny Kadota 1/8/89 24 19.03 Success Lake California Larry Kerns 1/27/01 25 19.00 Lake Tarpon Florida Riley Witt 6/21/61 Quote
Rattletrap Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 Georgia needs to start stocking trout in their Northern lakes. Quote
Super User cart7t Posted February 23, 2006 Super User Posted February 23, 2006 Bassmaster did an article on the late 80's-early 90's monsters that were caught out of Castaic by guys like Crupi and Arujo. Those were a specific Florida strain hydrid that seemed to have the perfect genetics to grow huge. Unfortunately, that class of bass are long since dead and the fish and game people in California figured that they probably crossbred outside of their own superbreed and thus you see Castaic never had any big fish after that time. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted February 23, 2006 Super User Posted February 23, 2006 All the lists I find does not match mattlures. Matt, what is your source for top 25 bass? Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted February 23, 2006 Super User Posted February 23, 2006 http://www.geocities.com/Baja/8205/bass_top25.html This site offers fishing logs and said it monitors state to state bass records and this is the most up to date as per state agencies. Quote
Triton_Mike Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 There was a thing in Bass West that states Jed Dickersons fish in 4th place is the same exact fish caught by Mike Long which is in 9th place. THere was a spot on his gills that matched up in both pictures and they thought there was a strong chance it was the same fish which had grown some when Jed D caught her. T Mike Quote
Rattletrap Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 It seems to me that Cali has regressed in the big bass area. One 20 pounder in 2003. The rest are 1991 and earlier. Cali is now producing 14-15 lb fish like every other Southern state. That's Southern US states across the nation, not just the South East. Even Georgia has put up some 16 lb plus fish in 2005. I'm waiting on a 2006 list. I can't seem to find a list yet. GON said they were going to post one Mar or Apr. There is not much of a threat in breaking the World Record LMB anymore. It looks like Georgia will keep it another 70 more years. That's until somebody starts introducing steroids into the bass. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted February 23, 2006 Super User Posted February 23, 2006 Trap, keep an eye on Cuba and Mexico, if you read the post on the supposedly 26 pound found dead with a 3lb talipia stuck in its throat I posted, it mentioned some good info on Cuba and their climate. My mom bass fished Mexico many times in the 70's, great fishery then. What has changed is, biologist from the US, mainly Tx has aided Mexico program since early 90's. They kick out some giants, which isn't bad because some of those lakes are only open certain times of the year. Some protect the spawn and allow no fishing, some do. They are comparing numbers from their lakes during those open and closed seasons to see if the pressure makes that much of a difference. Within the next 70yrs as Trap likes to highlight, the heat will get turned up on pursuit of the record. It will fall as long as mother nature does her part, and mankind doesn't do nothing stupid. The genes are out there, and Cuba supposedly has a fish adapted the the climate with a life expectancy longer than F-1's and Native northern bass. That was the interesting part of the Mexico article. Trap, stay cool, as in a cuecumber cool. Matt Quote
Guest avid Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Matt, your list shows an 18 lb bass caught in Florida. the Florida CERTIFIED state record is 17.27. The state of Florida lists that 20 lber as "reliable" but uncertified. So the official state record is 17.27 lbs. I have no idea where they got that 18 lber from. It makes me question all of the information on the list. Just an FYI avid Quote
Captain Cali Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Castaic fell off the map because of striped bass not because of cross bredding. Keeping stripers out is the key. Quote
Rattletrap Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 Castaic fell off the map because of striped bass not because of cross bredding. Keeping stripers out is the key. You are right. Stripers put a hurting on LMB. Quote
Rattletrap Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 Trap, keep an eye on Cuba and Mexico, if you read the post on the supposedly 26 pound found dead with a 3lb talipia stuck in its throat I posted, it mentioned some good info on Cuba and their climate. My mom bass fished Mexico many times in the 70's, great fishery then. What has changed is, biologist from the US, mainly Tx has aided Mexico program since early 90's. They kick out some giants, which isn't bad because some of those lakes are only open certain times of the year. Some protect the spawn and allow no fishing, some do. They are comparing numbers from their lakes during those open and closed seasons to see if the pressure makes that much of a difference. Within the next 70yrs as Trap likes to highlight, the heat will get turned up on pursuit of the record. It will fall as long as mother nature does her part, and mankind doesn't do nothing stupid. The genes are out there, and Cuba supposedly has a fish adapted the the climate with a life expectancy longer than F-1's and Native northern bass. That was the interesting part of the Mexico article. Trap, stay cool, as in a cuecumber cool. Matt I'm going to start calling it the US World Record. I could care less about Mexico and Communist Cuba. Anything outside of the US should not count. I get sick and tired of other countries getting involved in anything of ours. That goes for Baseball, Football, Bassmaster Tournaments. If you don't live in the US, you should not be able to compete in the US in anything. The US will sell out anything. Even our ports. USA only!!!! That was a good little vent. Matt. That's cool as a Texas Cucumber. Quote
Captain Cali Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Trap, keep an eye on Cuba and Mexico, if you read the post on the supposedly 26 pound found dead with a 3lb talipia stuck in its throat I posted, it mentioned some good info on Cuba and their climate. My mom bass fished Mexico many times in the 70's, great fishery then. What has changed is, biologist from the US, mainly Tx has aided Mexico program since early 90's. They kick out some giants, which isn't bad because some of those lakes are only open certain times of the year. Some protect the spawn and allow no fishing, some do. They are comparing numbers from their lakes during those open and closed seasons to see if the pressure makes that much of a difference. Within the next 70yrs as Trap likes to highlight, the heat will get turned up on pursuit of the record. It will fall as long as mother nature does her part, and mankind doesn't do nothing stupid. The genes are out there, and Cuba supposedly has a fish adapted the the climate with a life expectancy longer than F-1's and Native northern bass. That was the interesting part of the Mexico article. Trap, stay cool, as in a cuecumber cool. Matt I'm going to start calling it the US World Record. I could care less about Mexico and Communist Cuba. Anything outside of the US should not count. I get sick and tired of other countries getting involved in anything of ours. That goes for Baseball, Football, Bassmaster Tournaments. If you don't live in the US, you should not be able to compete in the US in anything. The US will sell out anything. Even our ports. USA only!!!! LOL...Then it wouldn't be a world record. Quote
Randall Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Georgia needs to start stocking trout in their Northern lakes. I was looking one time at length measurements of some bass one time that were all 15-20 lbs and realized that Varner has bass that have the length to weigh that much but they just dont have the gut that those fish do. I have seen and caught a bunch of 27-30 inch bass but they just dont have the gut that California bass do. Last June I caught a 30 inch long nine pounder. When its head came up I thought I thought I had a fish over 15 lbs. Then we brought it in the boat and saw it had almost no gut. I dont know if trout are the answer but fatten those fish up and Varner will compete with any California Lake. I didnt notice the fish getting real skinny in the summer until alot of the Hybrids started reaching 10+ lbs. Maybe the big bass needed the Gizzard Shad that the Hybrids were stocked to control. Quote
Rattletrap Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 It's the US record. And that's the way it should be addressed. IMO. Quote
Rattletrap Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 Georgia needs to start stocking trout in their Northern lakes. I was looking one time at length measurements of some bass one time that were all 15-20 lbs and realized that Varner has bass that have the length to weigh that much but they just dont have the gut that those fish do. I have seen and caught a bunch of 27-30 inch bass but they just dont have the gut that California bass do. Last June I caught a 30 inch long nine pounder. When its head came up I thought I thought I had a fish over 15 lbs. Then we brought it in the boat and saw it had almost no gut. I dont know if trout are the answer but fatten those fish up and Varner will compete with any California Lake. I didnt notice the fish getting real skinny in the summer until alot of the Hybrids started reaching 10+ lbs. Maybe the big bass needed the Gizzard Shad that the Hybrids were stocked to control. You got to have good protein. You can't get much better than trout. Quote
Guest avid Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Trap, keep an eye on Cuba and Mexico, if you read the post on the supposedly 26 pound found dead with a 3lb talipia stuck in its throat I posted, it mentioned some good info on Cuba and their climate. My mom bass fished Mexico many times in the 70's, great fishery then. What has changed is, biologist from the US, mainly Tx has aided Mexico program since early 90's. They kick out some giants, which isn't bad because some of those lakes are only open certain times of the year. Some protect the spawn and allow no fishing, some do. They are comparing numbers from their lakes during those open and closed seasons to see if the pressure makes that much of a difference. Within the next 70yrs as Trap likes to highlight, the heat will get turned up on pursuit of the record. It will fall as long as mother nature does her part, and mankind doesn't do nothing stupid. The genes are out there, and Cuba supposedly has a fish adapted the the climate with a life expectancy longer than F-1's and Native northern bass. That was the interesting part of the Mexico article. Trap, stay cool, as in a cuecumber cool. Matt I'm going to start calling it the US World Record. I could care less about Mexico and Communist Cuba. Anything outside of the US should not count. I get sick and tired of other countries getting involved in anything of ours. That goes for Baseball, Football, Bassmaster Tournaments. If you don't live in the US, you should not be able to compete in the US in anything. The US will sell out anything. Even our ports. USA only!!!! That was a good little vent. Matt. That's cool as a Texas Cucumber. Does someone need a hug? Quote
Rattletrap Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 Trap, keep an eye on Cuba and Mexico, if you read the post on the supposedly 26 pound found dead with a 3lb talipia stuck in its throat I posted, it mentioned some good info on Cuba and their climate. My mom bass fished Mexico many times in the 70's, great fishery then. What has changed is, biologist from the US, mainly Tx has aided Mexico program since early 90's. They kick out some giants, which isn't bad because some of those lakes are only open certain times of the year. Some protect the spawn and allow no fishing, some do. They are comparing numbers from their lakes during those open and closed seasons to see if the pressure makes that much of a difference. Within the next 70yrs as Trap likes to highlight, the heat will get turned up on pursuit of the record. It will fall as long as mother nature does her part, and mankind doesn't do nothing stupid. The genes are out there, and Cuba supposedly has a fish adapted the the climate with a life expectancy longer than F-1's and Native northern bass. That was the interesting part of the Mexico article. Trap, stay cool, as in a cuecumber cool. Matt I'm going to start calling it the US World Record. I could care less about Mexico and Communist Cuba. Anything outside of the US should not count. I get sick and tired of other countries getting involved in anything of ours. That goes for Baseball, Football, Bassmaster Tournaments. If you don't live in the US, you should not be able to compete in the US in anything. The US will sell out anything. Even our ports. USA only!!!! That was a good little vent. Matt. That's cool as a Texas Cucumber. Does someone need a hug? Sorry. That's just the military man coming out of me. Quote
Mattlures Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 There have been 2 caught in the last couple years over 20 and a few more that were close. Here is the whole list. This list is comprised of documented fish over 16lbs and was printed in Bass West magazine. Table 1: All-Time Largest Documented Bass NOTICE HOW MANY TIMES YOU SEE MIKE LONG!!!!! also note that he has caught several more that are not on this list including a 19.2 and a 17.2 from 2005 and a 16 !/2 lber from a few weeks ago. Rank Pounds Location State Angler Date 1 22.25 Montgomery Lake Georgia George Perry 6/2/32 2 22.01 Lake Castaic California Bob Crupi 3/12/91 3 21.75 Lake Castaic California Mike Arujo 3/5/91 4 21.70 Dixon Reservoir California Jed Dickerson 5/31/03 5 21.19 Lake Casitas California Ray Easley 3/4/80 6 21.01 Lake Castaic California Bob Crupi 3/9/90 7 20.94 Lake Miramar California David Zimerlee 6/23/73 8 20.86 Lake Castaic California Leo Torres 2/4/90 9 20.75 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 4/27/01 10 20.25 Lake Hodges California Gene Dupras 5/30/85 10 20.25 Lake Miramar California Johnny Garduno 3/25/90 12 20.13 Big Fish Lake Florida Fritz Friebel May 1923 13 19.88 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 2004 14 19.63 Lake Baccarac Mexico Bruce Knutsen 1/17/93 15 19.50 Lake Miramar California Keith Gunsauls 3/7/88 15 19.50 Lake Casitas California Randy Crabtree 4/9/02 15 19.50 Dixon Reservoir California Mac Weakley 5/20/03 18 19.40 Ikehara Dam Japan Kazuya Shimada 4/22/03 19 19.25 Lake Miramar California Chris Brandt 3/22/98 20 19.19 Lake Wohlford California Steve Beasley 2/3/86 20 19.19 Lake Morena California Ardon Hanline 2/17/87 22 19.06 Lake Miramar California Sandy DeFresco 3/14/88 23 19.04 Lake Castaic California Danny Kadota 1/8/89 24 19.03 Success Lake California Larry Kerns 1/27/01 25 19.00 Lake Tarpon Florida Riley Witt 6/21/61 26 18.94 Lake Isabella California Keith Harper April 1984 27 18.86 Lake Castaic California Danny Kadota 2/12/88 28 18.81 St. Johns River Florida Buddy Wright 4/12/87 28 18.81 Lake Isabella California Joe Weaver Feb. 1984 30 18.75 Lower Otay Lake California Bob Eberly 3/9/80 30 18.75 San Vicente Lake California James Steurgeon 2/26/81 30 18.75 Lake Castaic California Manny Arujo 1/25/91 30 18.75 Lake Kaweah California Nai Seathan 3/15/01 34 18.70 San Pablo California Victor Barfield 3/22/01 35 18.69 Lake Casitas California Bill Beckum 1/15/80 36 18.63 San Vicente California Doug Crandall 1979 37 18.62 Delta California Galen Jensen 2/10/02 38 18.56 San Vicente California Bobby Sandberg 1976 38 18.56 Lake Castaic California Bob Crupi 1/27/92 38 18.56 Don Pedro California Rod Martin 4/9/03 41 18.55 Lake Murray California Mike Long Dec. 2001 42 18.25 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 2004 42 18.25 Lower Otay California Unknown March 1980 44 18.18 Lake Fork Texas Barry St. Clair 1/24/92 45 18.15 Natchez State Park Mississippi Unknown 12/31/92 46 18.13 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 2003 46 18.13 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2002 48 18.10 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1998 48 18.10 Lake Murray California Mike Long Feb. 1999 50 18.00 Lake Perris California Will Steel 12/29/02 50 18.00 San Pablo California Rob Belloni 5/3/03 50 18.00 Lake Murray California Mike Long 2000 50 18.00 Mission Viejo California Mike Long 2002 54 17.95 Lake Murray California Mike Long March 1999 55 17.75 San Vicente California Unknown March, 1982 56 17.69 Lake Hodges California Unknown March, 1985 57 17.67 Lake Fork Texas Mark Stevenson 11/26/86 58 17.64 Lake Fork Texas Stan Moss 4/1/89 59 17.63 Lake Fork Texas Jerry New 8/28/90 60 17.50 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2000 60 17.50 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2001 60 17.50 San Vicente California Unknown March, 1979 63 17.25 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 2003 63 17.25 Lake Hodges California Unknown March, 1985 63 17.25 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1999 66 17.19 Lower Otay California Unknown Jan. 1985 67 17.13 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1998 67 17.13 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1999 69 17.11 Lake Murray California Mike Long March 1999 70 17.08 Lake Fork Texas Troy Coates 2/26/91 71 17.06 Lake Miramar California Mike Long 2000 71 17.06 San Vicente California Unknown Feb. 1979 73 17.05 Lake Murray California Mike Long March 2000 74 16.89 Lake Fork Texas Bryan Turner 2/8/93 75 16.88 Lower Otay California Unknown Feb. 1981 76 16.75 Lake Fork Texas Steve Trepkus 3/8/90 77 16.63 Lake Fork Texas Flo O'Brien 2/28/99 77 16.63 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2000 77 16.63 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1999 80 16.56 San Vicente California Unknown Jan. 1980 81 16.54 Lake Fork Texas Bill Reed 2/27/91 82 16.50 San Vicente California Unknown May, 1981 83 16.45 Lake Murray California Mike Long March, 2001 84 16.44 Lake Fork Texas Chris Adams 3/10/96 84 16.44 Lake Miramar California Unknown April 1973 86 16.41 Lake Murray California Mike Long March 2000 87 16.38 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1999 88 16.25 Lower Otay California Unknown Feb. 1982 88 16.25 San Vicente California Unknown Nov. 1979 88 16.25 San Vicente California Unknown March 1982 88 16.25 Sutherland California Mike Long April 2001 92 16.19 San Vicente California Unknown Jan. 1979 92 16.19 San Vicente California Unknown March 1981 94 16.13 Gibbons Creek Texas Troy Johnson 1/15/88 94 16.13 Sutherland California Unknown April 1989 94 16.13 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2000 97 16.12 Lake Fork Texas Jim Harrell 3/22/02 98 16.06 Lake Fork Texas Tom Hallum 3/9/88 98 16.06 Lake Hodges California Unknown April 1985 100 16.04 Lake Fork Texas Gasper Cardinale 2/29/92 101 16.02 Possum Kingdom Texas Scott Tongate 10/13/89 102 16.01 Caddo Texas John Merck 4/13/92 102 16.00 Cuyamaca California Mike Long 2002 102 16.00 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2002 102 16.00 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1999 102 16.00 Mission Viejo California Mike Long 2001 Quote
mgmoore7 Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 Thats an old list. This one is more curent but still not up to date. Mike Long has another one on it. A 19.2 caught last year. so that makes 3 for him 25 19.00 Lake Tarpon Florida Riley Witt 6/21/61 While I would love to say that #25 is accurate (I grew up on Tarpon Lake and still live within an hour...) That one is not certified. Here is the statement from the Division of Fisheries "Florida's official largemouth bass record is 17.27 pounds, but others often cite an uncertified fish of 20.125 pounds (a fisheries biologist did not physically see the fish to certify it). " Quote
mgmoore7 Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 http://www.geocities.com/Baja/8205/bass_top25.html This site offers fishing logs and said it monitors state to state bass records and this is the most up to date as per state agencies. #20 is wrong 20. 18-12.9 Bud Wright 4/12/87 St. Johns River, FL Florida's official record is 17.27lbs "Florida's official largemouth bass record is 17.27 pounds, but others often cite an uncertified fish of 20.125 pounds (a fisheries biologist did not physically see the fish to certify it). " Quote
Guest avid Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 I'm with Mg on this one. I don't know where these lists are coming from, but the long one posted by mattlures shows a 19 lb florida bass, that I never heard of before yet it does not show the 17.27 certified state record. I don't understand??? How am I supposed to take this seriously when it fails to show the official state record of a huge bassin state like Florida? Quote
mgmoore7 Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 I'm with Mg on this one. I don't know where these lists are coming from, but the long one posted by mattlures shows a 19 lb florida bass, that I never heard of before yet it does not show the 17.27 certified state record. I don't understand??? How am I supposed to take this seriously when it fails to show the official state record of a huge bassin state like Florida? Amen Quote
Mattlures Posted February 25, 2006 Posted February 25, 2006 Notice I said documented not certifeid. There is a diference. There is a big long article that goes with the list. I do not about the florida bass but I can remember just about all the cali catche from the last 10 years. If you would like to read the entire article I would be happy to send it to you. It explains about the list. Those other two list are WAY outdated. Quote
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