The current World Record Largemouth

[Guest bigtex]

flechero, I have zero beef with the tactics that the share a lunker program is doing. In fact I wish they would do it in every state! I would like to read the material that you have about 4 fish over 20lbs were found dead at Fork. Is there a internet link?

I also agree Mexico has a great chance at the WR as well.

Mike

I FOUND NEW INFORMATION, YEEEEA. CALL 1-877-525-4698. They said there was an article in a magazine called Fishing Game that stated that people found bass floating that weighed over 20+ lbs. They said to look back from 95 to 98. They didn't know which one it was so I thought you would have better luck in finding it. Looks like you can't count TEXAS out just yet!!! Looks like Texas is also within ounces too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Captain Cali]

Good luck Texas, Florida, Georgia and Mexico. California is within ounces, not pounds.

8-) That's what Im talkin' about!! ;D

[mgmoore7]

I have read alot of this post but not every entry so forgive me if I am repeating.  

When I got back into bass fishing more frequently last year and started reading/hearding about these lakes in CA that will probably produce the next record and then heard that they are regularly stocked with trout just to help produce the biggest bass....

Doesn't this take some of the sport out of it?  It seems to me that there is much emphasis on "manufacturing" a world record bass than letting nature take its course.

Maybe there should be an asterick for "caught from regularly trout stocked lake for bass consumption"

[Captain Cali]

When I got back into bass fishing more frequently last year and started reading/hearding about these lakes in CA that will probably produce the next record and then heard that they are regularly stocked with trout just to help produce the biggest bass....

Doesn't this take some of the sport out of it?  It seems to me that there is much emphasis on "manufacturing" a world record bass than letting nature take its course.

Maybe there should be an asterick for "caught from regularly trout stocked lake for bass consumption"

That is where what you read & heard is wrong. California does NOT stock rainbow trout to increase the size of bass. Rainbow trout are stocked because people fish for them and the state makes more $$$ from those anglers. There would be no trout stocking if no one fished for them.

When we call the stocked trout "bass food" or thank the DFG for feeding our bass it's a joke. While we do appreciate our trout planting program it's not in place to increase the size of bass. If that were the case we'd be dumping trout into lakes year round.

Let me repeat this once again...

California does NOT stock rainbow trout to increase the size of bass.

[flechero]

flechero, I have zero beef with the tactics that the share a lunker program is doing. In fact I wish they would do it in every state! I would like to read the material that you have about 4 fish over 20lbs were found dead at Fork. Is there a internet link?

I also agree Mexico has a great chance at the WR as well.

Mike

I FOUND NEW INFORMATION, YEEEEA. CALL 1-877-525-4698. They said there was an article in a magazine called Fishing Game that stated that people found bass floating that weighed over 20+ lbs. They said to look back from 95 to 98. They didn't know which one it was so I thought you would have better luck in finding it. Looks like you can't count TEXAS out just yet!!! Looks like Texas is also within ounces too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigTex,

Thanks for taking the time and finding that info for us. Could it have been "Fish & Game" as in Texas Fish & Game Magazine? I don't know the other. I didn't like the implication that I was just "speculating" as one poster accused.

-keith

[Guest bigtex]

It might be called Fish & Game or Texas Fish and Game.  You can call that toll free number posted and talk to the owner of the guide service and ask them about it.  They knew exactly what I was talking about.  They just didn't have enough information on were to find the correct certified weight.

[JDPgator]

When I got back into bass fishing more frequently last year and started reading/hearding about these lakes in CA that will probably produce the next record and then heard that they are regularly stocked with trout just to help produce the biggest bass....

Doesn't this take some of the sport out of it?  It seems to me that there is much emphasis on "manufacturing" a world record bass than letting nature take its course.

Maybe there should be an asterick for "caught from regularly trout stocked lake for bass consumption"

That is where what you read & heard is wrong. California does NOT stock rainbow trout to increase the size of bass. Rainbow trout are stocked because people fish for them and the state makes more $$$ from those anglers. There would be no trout stocking if no one fished for them.

When we call the stocked trout "bass food" or thank the DFG for feeding our bass it's a joke. While we do appreciate our trout planting program it's not in place to increase the size of bass. If that were the case we'd be dumping trout into lakes year round.

Let me repeat this once again...

California does NOT stock rainbow trout to increase the size of bass.

I would be curious to know when CA starting getting these 20lbs. Has it always been such or was it a period of time after the introduction of stock rainbow trout? I ask because even if the intent is not to increase the size of the bass, could a case be made for it being an "un-natural" contributing factor.

[RoLo]

It all began in Lake Miramar, California in 1973.

David Zimmerlee: 20 lb, 15 oz - June 23, 1973

Roger

[JDPgator]

So is that in sync with the trout stocking or is the stocking just a side note that gets attached to the CA bass?

[Rattletrap]

Check it out!!!! This link has Perry's bass, Zimmerlee's bass and Duclos' so called 24 pounder.

http://www.backwoodsbound.com/ybigbass.html

[Guest bigtex]

Can you imagine if Texas had a "trout program" like CA.  Our bass would bust 23 to 24lbs.  LOL

[basswagoner]

I believe it.  I just wish kentucky would produce some better monsters.  Biggest I caught this year was a 7 pounder.  Pretty big for ky on norm.

[Captain Cali]

Here is some information on California's Largemouth Bass.

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/fishing/html/AnglerRecognition/TrophyBass/TrophyBlackBass_0.htm

I'm looking for information on when the trout plants started.

There is little doubt in my mind Texas would have 20# bass if the waters were stocked with trout.

[Guest bigtex]

"Besides, the monsters are literally hand-fed trout (which most anglers to these lakes pay to fish for) that are stocked weekly. Observers during trout plantings see a literal feeding frenzy as the hundreds of trout hit the lake water. The big bass take them immediately as the tank truck dumps them. Huge wakes converge on the feeding area. It's an awesome sight! It's no wonder the bass are big bellied monsters on a diet of mature trout! Naturally that and other areas are off limits to fishermen!"

This is very interesting don't you think Roger310

[Captain Cali]

"Besides, the monsters are literally hand-fed trout (which most anglers to these lakes pay to fish for) that are stocked weekly. Observers during trout plantings see a literal feeding frenzy as the hundreds of trout hit the lake water. The big bass take them immediately as the tank truck dumps them. Huge wakes converge on the feeding area. It's an awesome sight! It's no wonder the bass are big bellied monsters on a diet of mature trout! Naturally that and other areas are off limits to fishermen!"

This is very interesting don't you think Roger310

Where do you get your info dude??

[Guest bigtex]

Roger310:

Please.......California wouldn't have the big bass that they do if it wasn't for the trout. You know it and so does everybody else. There is nothing wrong in wanting to help your fish get big when they can't do it themselves. Some states lack "NATURAL" record size bass. I'm not going to mention any states in particular...CALIFORNIA. LOL

[KYbass1276]

It's really obvious that this post is getting heated up. Face it california is more than likely the next home of the world record lm  I might not like that fact but have to live with it.  So lets give this one a rest and just wait until the thing is caught besides this has gotten off of the posted subject of is the current one legit to where the next will be caught As i have said before the current perry world record is just that a world record and we all have to live with it until the next one is caught regardless if you think it's legit or not. Man it sure is good this is on a forum instead of a bar or something.  I think some of you guys would be going at it by now  

[Captain Cali]

Roger310:  

Please.......California wouldn't have the big bass that they do if it wasn't for the trout.  You know it and so does everybody else.  There is nothing wrong in wanting to help your fish get big when they can't do it themselves.  So states lack "NATURAL" record size bass. I'm not going to mention any states in particular...CALIFORNIA.  LOL

::)I'm not here to get into a #%@! flinging contest. I'm just trying to state the facts. I'm not saying trout don't help bass get big. But the fact is people seem to think trout are planted for bass to eat. That is just not the case.

Since the can of worms has been opened...do breeding programs count as "UNNATURAL"?? I guess not since it's big texas we're talking about.  

[Rattletrap]

The Trout stocking program in California is geared toward the Trout fishermen. It so happens that the Bass like to eat them. There's a lot of protein in them there Trout.  

[Guest bigtex]

I do believe that the current WR is valid.  If it wasn't than it would have already been over turned.  I just think that Texas has just a close of a shot at the WR as California.  I have produced a little evidence in backing up my claim.  I have yet to hear anybody disagree with me as far as bass of 20lbs + coming out of Fork.  I know they don't count because they were found floating dead.  It just shows you that Fork can produce the bigger fish that people seek.

[Rattletrap]

The Big Bass are dying before they hit 22lb 4oz.

[Guest bigtex]

Roger310:

Please.......California wouldn't have the big bass that they do if it wasn't for the trout. You know it and so does everybody else. There is nothing wrong in wanting to help your fish get big when they can't do it themselves. So states lack "NATURAL" record size bass. I'm not going to mention any states in particular...CALIFORNIA. LOL

::)I'm not here to get into a #%@! flinging contest. I'm just trying to state the facts. I'm not saying trout don't help bass get big. But the fact is people seem to think trout are planted for bass to eat. That is just not the case.

Since the can of worms has been opened...do breeding programs count as "UNNATURAL"?? I guess not since it's big texas we're talking about.

This is just to easy.......BREEDING IS NATURAL.  How do you think you were brought into this world.  I'm not tring to start a fight or get into an argument with anybody, all I want is for Texas not to be overlooked.  That's it.  

[Guest bigtex]

The Big Bass are dying before they hit 22lb 4oz.

What state are you talking about?  Texas is having that problem but the death tole for bass are declining pretty fast.  We are on the rebound.  It may take us 5 to 10 years but we will be able to produce a WR largemouth bass.

[flechero]

One thing people keep overlooking is that even though Ca. is the favorite to produce the next WR, doesn't mean it will happen.  I'll concede that it is the most likely place... but until it happens, there is just as good a chance in Mexico, Japan or Texas.

Roger, don't take any of this personally, those of us in Texas wish our lakes were full of trout...  it sure would make picking out swimbaits easier!   ;D  

[flechero]

The Big Bass are dying before they hit 22lb 4oz.

That is true but also possible is that the turtles found the 24 before a person did, and had a big dinner.