stratoscaster Posted November 4, 2005 Posted November 4, 2005 There are no magic baits, just magic spots. I just read this and thought it made sense. Quote
Super User Raul Posted November 4, 2005 Super User Posted November 4, 2005 You are dead wrong. The truth is, there are no magic baits, there 's no such thing as magic spots, the most important part of fishing gear is from the handle of the rod to the back there 's where the magic is located, but still fishing with quality gear ain 't gonna blister your hands. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted November 4, 2005 Super User Posted November 4, 2005 Raul, You think like Clunn, are you kin? LOL Quote
Super User KU_Bassmaster. Posted November 4, 2005 Super User Posted November 4, 2005 Stratoscaster makes sense. You have a 0% chance to catch a fish that is not there no matter how good/expensive/magic your bait and gear are. Now take some string, tie it to a stick, put some cheapo bait on a hook and put it where the fish are .................... while your odds may not be that great, they are still way better than the 0% before. That being said I still think there are baits that just plain don't work and there are baits that will put fish in the boat on a pretty consistent basis on certain waters. Magic bait .......... maybe? I also still like to have fairly nice fishing gear as well. Rual is also right IMO too. Knowledge of where to and what to fish is probably the most important thing in putting fish in the boat. Rual said, "Fishing with quality gear ain't gonna blister your hands" - Well it sure has blistered my wallet. It better start getting some callouses (sp?) because I ain't stopping and it's only going to get worse once I get out of college. ;D Quote
Super User Raul Posted November 4, 2005 Super User Posted November 4, 2005 Matt I 've always said: the wrong lure in the right hands outfishes the right lure in the wrong hands. Catching fish is as much science as it is art, some anglers are "talented" by nature, mother nature has provided them with all they need to catch fish, in them catching fish is a second nature, they are natural fishermen just as there are natural players in football or baseball, there 's somthing in them that makes them shine over the rest of the crowd, but people like them are the smallest population. Most anglers are not "talented", most anglers need to "learn" how to catch fish, they must learn how to select baits, how to work them properly, how to read the water, how to cast properly and accurately, etc.. Some learn better, faster and practice more than others, practice makes perfect. The artistic part of fishing comes into play when you may know all the technical data about lures, conditions, etc., but everybody is different, each of us imparts it 's own personality to the lures,you are the one that makes the bait work, and it 's not the same being fishing for 20 years, you may have 1 year experience multiplied by 20 than having 20 years "experience". Quote
stratoscaster Posted November 4, 2005 Author Posted November 4, 2005 Raul, to expand on what KU said, I'll give you the best Gloomis rod the most expensive Shimano reel any Luckycraft lure you want and put you on Deerpoint lake (my local resevoir) and I'll take a Zebco 33 and a bag of plastic worms and go to my little pond around the corner and probably catch more fish than you. The point being Deerpoint is really tough and the little pond isn't. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted November 4, 2005 Super User Posted November 4, 2005 Dad always said "fishing is part in the head and part in the heart". And some plain Luck sometimes. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted November 4, 2005 Super User Posted November 4, 2005 Was it magic that determined one was tougher than the other? Quote
stratoscaster Posted November 4, 2005 Author Posted November 4, 2005 LOL! It seemed like magic the evening I caught a couple (apox.) 6# bass on consecutive casts and 4 more bass in the 3 to 4# range in the next 15 minutes. Anyway it was just something I read that I thought had some validity to it. I too agree with what Raul said which I think rephrased is you get out of fishing what you put into it. I'm a much better fisherman now than I was a year ago but that's because I've worked at it harder than ever this year. Another reason I'm better is because of this site. Thanks for everyones insights, I'm still listening and learnimg. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted November 4, 2005 Super User Posted November 4, 2005 What you post on the bottom is what I preach, the 90% rule and 10% of us catching them. The 10% are people like Raul who use everything, science, good tackle, experience, accuracy, and just understanding each piece of the puzzle and how they fit together. Quote
Super User Raul Posted November 4, 2005 Super User Posted November 4, 2005 Raul, to expand on what KU said, I'll give you the best Gloomis rod the most expensive Shimano reel any Luckycraft lure you want and put you on Deerpoint lake (my local resevoir) and I'll take a Zebco 33 and a bag of plastic worms and go to my little pond around the corner and probably catch more fish than you. The point being Deerpoint is really tough and the little pond isn't. Wanna bet on that ? Quote
Keepin_It_Reel Posted November 4, 2005 Posted November 4, 2005 I have to agree with raul on this one boys. Quote
stratoscaster Posted November 5, 2005 Author Posted November 5, 2005 Raul, I'm not much of a gambling man (more of a competitor than a gambler) but for you I'd make an exception. Keepinreel I agree with what Raul is saying as well but you have to agree some waters hold larger quantities of more catchable bass than others. Otherwise the pros wouldn't gaurd their spots like they do or make forty mile runs to get to them. Btw Raul I'd love to fish with you, and most everyone else on this site, I'm sure I would learn a great deal and enjoy the trip. Quote
Guest avid Posted November 5, 2005 Posted November 5, 2005 There is no doubt that quality fish can be caught in abundance using the most primitive or inexpensive grear. But why would anyone choose to do that if they have the means to get quality gear? I enjoy catching fish, but I love fishing. I feel fortunate that I do not have a tournament mindset that basically says, "I have to catch as many fish as I can as quickly as I can so I can cull and win a prize". I love being outdoors on the water. I even enjoy the days when bass seem to have lockjaw. I feel challenged by this. But whether I am catching fish or not, there is real pleasure in using the finest equipment. It makes the process of fishing a joy. For some of us it's not all about the catching. Quote
DDbasser Posted November 5, 2005 Posted November 5, 2005 IMO, The most important piece of equipment that a fisherman owns is right between his/her ears!!! People collect all kinds of things, tools, antiques, toys, we just happen to collect lures, rods and reels. A certain lure may work better or it may not but you'll never know if you don't try it. That IMO is the driving force behind the baitmonkey. There is no cure, just temporary relief. LOL!!!! Quote
Chris Posted November 5, 2005 Posted November 5, 2005 Raul, to expand on what KU said, I'll give you the best Gloomis rod the most expensive Shimano reel any Luckycraft lure you want and put you on Deerpoint lake (my local resevoir) and I'll take a Zebco 33 and a bag of plastic worms and go to my little pond around the corner and probably catch more fish than you. The point being Deerpoint is really tough and the little pond isn't. Can I get in on that bet ;D Read the bottom post on this thread http://bassresource.com/cgi-bin/bass_fish/YaBB.pl?board=gen_bass;action=display;num=1130795561 Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted November 5, 2005 Super User Posted November 5, 2005 Avid, you are right on the money. It's not all about catching. It's about "quality" time. I work two jobs, so, I don't have as much time on the water as I'd like. My time on the water, spent trying to outwit a creature with a brain the size of a grape seed, is all that stands between me and insanity. It's peace, quiet contemplation, magic and mystery. Slipping my little two-man boat out into the early morning fog is almost mystical. The joy of using fine equipment just adds to the mix. A wisw man once said "Buy the best, You'll never be diasppointed". Good luck to all, GK Quote
Guest the_muddy_man Posted November 5, 2005 Posted November 5, 2005 Hey fellas there is a anti bait monkey serum its called A MARRIGE LICENCE Quote
Guest River_stumps Posted November 5, 2005 Posted November 5, 2005 I believe if George Perry were alive, thet he would disagree with every one of us... In 1932 there were no modern baits as we have today, no state of the art tackle and no salt impregnated plastic that we spend so much money on today to try and catch that small 10 Lb large mouth bass that eludes most of us every time we get into our expensive pick up with our expensive bass boat trailing behind us and thousands of dollars in all kinds of baits and equipment...I believe he would say " Give me an old broken creek chub, an old pfluger reel with and old steel rod and I will break my own record". Then I believe he would do it..No! I don't believe there is magic in it. Quote
Minuteman Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 My new motto is "An angry fisherman, catches no fish". I saw that on Scott Martins show, it's an oldy, but one I need to have holographed on my sunglasses. Grrr....!! Ooops, relax and take a breath, Bill!! Quote
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