Help with worms (plastic)

[Bama_Bass_Tracker]

I've been fishing a large pond near my house, using 5" Zoom salty super flukes. Catching bass weighing 1 pound up to 3 1/2 pounds. My question is what can I do to keep the worm ON the hook. These fish are very aggressive and are tearing the worms to pieces. Sometimes they push the worm way up on the line, other times ripping the head of the worm off. HELP  ???  ???

[senko_77]

first off, no matter what you do, your worms are going to rip.  there peices of soft plastic being eatin by viscious creatures.  try super glueing the head to the eye of the hook.  that will hold it n place.  hopes this helps.

[Curado]

It's just gonna happen but you could try the glue but I just replace it when it gets ripped.

[Will]

Their is a little tool that the end heats up enough that you can melt the worm back togethor, I'll look for a pic. or link.

[Guest cyb0rg]

How are you rigging your worms?  I had a similar problem until I started using the Texas rig.  

[Gatorbassman]

That's why worms come in bags of up to 20. They are going to rip. You just need to replace them. Now if they are sliding around even before you catch a fish with them you probably need to do something about it. Gluing this is one thing. The one thing I started doing is using Gamy EWG G-lock hooks.

I used a lighter and a small pocketknife. I heat the tip of the knife and fix the tears.

[Muddpuppy]

One link for a worm welder is

http://www.iovino.com/wormizer.html

I often get by useing just a lighter to repair worms while fishing also a woodburning set with different attatchments works pretty good when you get home.   Eagle claw makes a baitholder hook with a little clamp at the eye to hold the worm on  and other companies have other types as well they work good for weeds and stuff, fish might still still tear them up, but might be worth a shot.

[Bama_Bass_Tracker]

cyb0rg, I use  an Owner size 2/0 offset worm hook, Texas rig, but I use a 1/16th ounce weight pinched (so it does'nt slide) about 5 inches above the worm.  this works really well for me, until the fish destory the worm that is. I've gone through an entire bag (10 ct) this weekend alone. Strange thing is that it doesn't happen with my other worms, just the super flukes. Think I'm going to look for some larger guage hooks. I caught a 3 1/2 pounder today and it darn near tore the worm in half. Thanks for the help guys and keep catching.  8)

[FlyRod]

Ya' gotta expect casualties in any big operation.

However, the hooks that were recommended will help.

You didn't mention what style hook you use, but if it's a straight shank, there's the first problem.

The glue idea is good too, and many use it. Other than that, you might try the worms/flukes made of CyberFlex, like the Strike King 3X brand. Once you learn to rig them, they'll last a loooooonnnnnnggggg time.

BTW, a tiny drop of Pros Soft-Bait Glue, rather than regular "super" glue, will serve better in repairing a worm. Plus, that stuff will not dry out on you after opening. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!

Good Luck,

F.Rod

[Bama_Bass_Tracker]

No flyrod I don't use straight shank hooks when using worms. I use offset shank worm hooks. I did find some tonight that are a thicker guage.

[Max-in-Mn]

When this happens I use a double hook harness, usually does the trick for me at least.

[senko_77]

the post about the g-lock worm will also help alot.  some hooks just dont hold the head of the worm good.  gammys really work better

[DDbasser]

I use a lot of flukes as well, went out this afternoon

The wife and I caught 10 bass went through 1 1/2 bags of watermelon red flukes, I'm using a 4/0 gammy wide gap hook and best I can figure, I get about 2 fish per fluke depending on the size of the fish the bigger ones tend to tear them up worse.

But thats ok, they'll make more!! (flukes) that is.

I also have the same problem with other brands of fluke like plastics and regular plastic worms, the only worms that I have found that are extremely tough are the ones made by Berkly GULP.

Those things are very tough, I caught four good fish out of a pond earlier this year on one worm and it still wasn't torn up used it again the next trip.    

[bassaddict62]

Seems like the bass are hitting the worms like they owed them money...good! I use soft worms, and they get tore up pretty fast too. That's why they come by the bag!   But when you consider how cheap plastics are compared to other lures, you can't beat them. I wouldn't sweat it -just reseat the worm if it's slid all up the line, or toss it out if it's too worn out.

[Chris]

If you can get away with it use a straight hook and glue it in exposed like you would with a jig head. You could peg the hook with some heavy line ran through the head of the fluke through the eye of the hook through to the other end. (a toothpick would work too) This prevents the hook from moving also.

[kevthebassman]

the only worms that I have found that are extremely tough are the ones made by Berkly GULP.

you could not be talking about GULP.  the regular berkley worms are great for durability, but gulp is absolutly horrible for it.  the stuff dries out, a hefty strike will demolish a worm, heck, just casting it tears that suff up.  

does gulp catch fish?        Yes

is gulp durable?                NO!!

[Brad_Coovert]

I've been fishing a large pond near my house, using 5" Zoom salty super flukes. Catching bass weighing 1 pound up to 3 1/2 pounds. My question is what can I do to keep the worm ON the hook. These fish are very aggressive and are tearing the worms to pieces. Sometimes they push the worm way up on the line, other times ripping the head of the worm off. HELP ??? ???

I'll take your problem any day!   ;D

I rig flukes on wide gap EWG hooks and glue 'em at the eye.

Brad

[bassackwards]

2 fish per fluke?  sounds like yamamoto baits!

I donno how those are rigged.  I give it some plastic to hold onto when first sliding the hook on.  so it will go up over the eye of the hook quite well when its complete.

[Matt Fly]

If thats the only problem I was having is torn up worms, I'd be happy to know their biting regular. A regular soldering iron works great on repairing or making 18" worms. The tears are the products of bass warfare. A drop of super glue will stop the sliding up line, although I'm not sure about introducing an odor to my set ups if it leaves a smell. A good thought to think about later. I have caught 15 cats 2 bass on gulps. And leave that Gulp pack unsealed and your whole investment is down the drain. I don't carry them anymore.