Super User bigbill Posted July 25, 2005 Super User Posted July 25, 2005 I was in a local bait shop and he had a few $1.99 spook type lures and an orange tiger one caught my eye. I picked up a few different colored ones and one morning as it became light the orange spook caught fish. All I can say is just try anything different that breaks the norm that most guys use and BAMM its fish on!!! It doesn't matter what it costs its the color and how you present it!!! Its good to have a mix of stuff. BB Quote
Super User Raul Posted July 26, 2005 Super User Posted July 26, 2005 No Bill, it 's the correct action and presentation, color is secondary to the other two. Quote
Super User bigbill Posted July 26, 2005 Author Super User Posted July 26, 2005 I'm not sure I have used the Combo C lector that selects the lure color for the waters condition at that time and its been correct when i tested it. When it chose red only a red crankbait worked and no other color did and then for two days after it chose green and brown the next day and they were the only color to work at that time. i have had other days when all three colors work at the sametime too. Which leads me to believe somedays one certain color is important and others it doesn't matter. Which makes sense when Bill Dance said the bass can only see certain colors at certain times or there wouldn't be a minnow left in the water if they could see them all the time. It also leads me to believe this why some lure colors don't work or if they do we catch two or three bass in an outing when if we picked the right color we could of loaded the boat?? I don't use the Combo C Lector all the time I like it when the fishing is tough and i use it for checking the PH too. The fishing was off lastweek and i wondered why it was so bad where i was fishing the PH was 4.3 to 4.6 a few days later it was closer to 6 and the fish were active and the bass bite was getting better. Also when the PH is off that much the bass are deep in the thick weeds were the oxygen is the best for them. So Jig & Pig's or heavy carolina rigs work the best. I have also noticed the weeds were boiling with topwater action at dawn too then as the sun came up the bass went deeper into the weeds the topwater action stopped. At one place the bass were eating little sunfish so i purchased some red dear colored cranks and I caught bass after bass on it. So it leads me to believe the bass are seeing colors and color does matter. I think it all works together lure size, lure color, lure speed and lure smell(scent) and when we do it right we catch fish. I have purchased so many different crankbait lures just to try and test them and i have found out one by one they all will catch fish sooner or later its just a matter of time they all will work. Its the samething with the topwater stuff too. Now with spinnerbaits its me I have caught very few fish on spinnerbaits so far. I'm not sure if there is a certain time here to use spinnerbaits or they work all the time?? I still throw them often. My best baits so far have been topwater(spooks) crankbaits, senko's and brush hogs. I have just started using plastic worms and i keep on missing the strikes but in time i'll master it too. We must master how to use every bait the more baits we know the more fish we will catch. At the sametime we must learn each presentation too. I like to watch video's to learn, read about it here or in magazines and then go out and try it. Nothing beats time spent fishing. Orange colored bottom baits and baits that match sunfish colors seem to work the best here. Its not luck in catching fish its SKILL!!!! Quote
Kana Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 i caught my largest bass ona 1.99 walmart crank. the catch was that it actually ran true and had a nice tight wobble. the color was a brown back, pearl midside and orange belly. i just lucky, because of the 20 or so i purchased imediately after that one 3 ran as well as the first one i bought. hit and miss! Quote
Low_Budget_Hooker Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 We catch bluefish on a piece of wood! Quote
Phishn_Phool Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 I caught my biggest bass on a homemade lure...probably cost about 50 cents to make at the time. CPR ;D Quote
Super User Raul Posted July 26, 2005 Super User Posted July 26, 2005 Do you sell those things Bill ? because everytime we discuss about baits you always bring the subject again about the Color C lector, also you don 't need to try to give me a lecture about Ph, oxygen, etc, I 'm very well aware of them and it 's pretty obvious you weren 't catching anything in a ph of 4.3, there 's nothing there ! no fish with the exception of upper Rio ***** fish like water that acid, and even then, they can 't tolerate a ph of 4.3 nor 4.8, the lowest PH fish can tolerate is 5.5 which is in real terms 120 times more alkaline that water with a Ph of 4.3. Quote
Super User bigbill Posted July 26, 2005 Author Super User Posted July 26, 2005 I haven't used the combo c lector since i have tested it for color selection once i found out it worked it has just sat in my garage ever since until this year I use it for random checking the PH when the fishing is bad. Its the older combo c lector its the round meter. BigBill The PH was 4.3 and 4.6 in the open water this is why the fish are deep in the weeds were the oxygen is the best. I haven't pulled one fish yet out of the open channel near the weedline I figure its the PH causing this. I'm very interested in when the fish don't bite to what is wrong and what causes this to happen at times. It can be the PH, it can be your using the wrong color lure that the fish can't see at that time too. It can be the change in the barometer too with a front comming in. I just want to learn it so i can adjust to it when its tough. I see so many guys catch 2 or 3 bass and their happy with that this is when i ask myself why just a few? While one lure color will catch a few fish picking the right lure color will load the boat. When the bite slows down just change colors and see what happens. Quote
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